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misato
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2002
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so how long does it take to get a reply from them to find a stink'n dealer in my area. I'm tired of calling the local auto parts stores asking them. yes, I could order it off the website but I wanted to pick it up locally for this weekend.
thanks.
sleepless in seattle,
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Art
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2002
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I am in canada and takes 3 days to get my oil from a warehouse here in canada so Im sure being in the states it would be even better,just go to their corporate site and order.Amsoil has the best customer service I have ever seen,let me tell you why.When I did my first order there ws a screw up on their part,they sent the oil from the states to the warehouse here,so 2 weeks go by and no oil,I call them up and they explain what had happened,Now you know what they did to smooth things over? They overnighted my order to me and charged me nothing yes NOTHING,$228 bucks was my order and free over night shipping,Now that is the best customer service I have ever experienced in my life,awsome company and products,and no I dont sell Amsoil products,I just use them and will forever
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misato
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2002
18:49:27
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I'm probably just going to order off there site. I remember seeing signs in some autoparts stores for it but for the life of me, I can't remember where..
3 days is good, truckperformance still hasn't shipped my transgo kit anyway..
have to do another project this weekend I guess.
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handi2
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10/22/2002
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Carquest carries Amsoil in my area of the South East. Try Carquest in your area, if there are any.
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DAKOTAKIDD
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2002
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Art, Where in Canada did you get the oil. They have not gotten back to me and its been about 3 weeks. If I could get it where you did that would save some more time.
C..
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Art
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2002
03:33:33
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Dakotakidd,I get my Amsoil from the distribution warehouse in Edmonton as I am in BC,They have two warehouses in canada,Edmonton and toronto just go to the Amsoil corporate site and get the 1-800 number and tell them you want your products shipped from whichever warehouse is closer to you,dont go through these multi-level local crap distributors,Be clear and say you want it shipped direct from the warehouse in Canada closest to you.Once you setup the account like that you will have no probs with shipping and getting your oils promptly.If you cant get the #`s let me know and I will post them on here tomorrow,they are in my toolbox at work
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10/23/2002
08:46:28
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misato,
Here is the information for CANADA DISTRIBUTION CENTERS:
Toronto, ON
6625 Tomken Rd
Units 12-14
Mississauga, ON L5T 2C2
Phone: 905-564-7770
Edmonton, AB
14543-121 A Ave
Edmonton, AB T5L 2T2
Phone: 780-453-5864
Amsoil also has a 1-800# for toll free ordering.
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AMSOIL can also be reached at the following phone numbers:
Corporate Headquarters and Technical Service Staff: (715) 392-7101
24 Hour Order Department Fax Line: (715) 392-5225
For answers to technical questions about AMSOIL products, contact AMSOIL at (715) 392-7101. NOTE: Technical inquiries must be addressed via phone, fax or regular mail.
If you have questions not addressed above or would like to contact AMSOIL via postal mail, phone or fax for some other reason:
AMSOIL INC.
AMSOIL Building
Superior, Wisconsin 54880
Phone: (715) 392-7101
*** Or you can contact me by clicking on the link below. ***
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As for not wanting to deal with "multi-level local crap distributors", ...even when you order direct from Amsoil Corporate or pick up from the warehouse, your account is assigned to a local Independent Amsoil Dealer. Amsoil does this so that they are not in direct competition with their thousands of Independent Dealers.
For the same reasons, Retail "on-the-shelf" locations are also set up this way and are the "downline" of an Independent Amsoil Dealer somewhere.
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ART, I am happy to hear from you that Amsoil "is the best customer service I have ever experienced in my life, awsome company and products". I am pleased to hear that they "did you right".
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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misato
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2002
11:40:22
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I'll try carquest.
I'm in seattle, not canada
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/23/2002
12:44:13
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Sorry misato, I was confused by Art's mention of Canada.
I sent you an email with the contact info for an Amsoil Representative in Seattle. He may have inventory available for pick up or tell you where you can find it retail.
Subject Line: Seattle Amsoil Contact
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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Art
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2002
13:04:29
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Steven,the guy that asked was in Canada,secondly I didnt go for amsoil based,on your or anyone elses opinions.I tried it and it has worked well for me,so I say so.I say again the way the market their products is holding them down IMO.You tell me why a guy I never met with or talked to gets selling points for me purchasing their products,again IMO that is a reason why alot of people dont give Amsoil a try.I am a Amsoil user and will be for a long time,what sold me on Amsoil was the product not any other reason.
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/23/2002
13:47:45
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Right Art,
Upon further review I see that you were answering DAKOTAKIDD. I looked at the first post from "misato" and he is in Seattle. All is not lost as they both have their information now. "Misato" received his via email and has responded.
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There is a study course that an Independent Amsoil Dealer takes regarding "product knowledge". Upon successful completion, and taking and passing an exam --- leads, catalog requests, and sales credits generated within the state of residence (direct communications with Amsoil) are randomly (like the lottery) redirected to Independent Dealers within that state. That person then becomes a "client" of that particular Independent Amsoil Dealer.
When I worked for XEROX, business was handled the same way. No potential customer could buy direct from XEROX. Of course I am not talking the low end machines that you see at STAPLES. I'm talking of the copiers that sold for between $5,000 and $125,000 each.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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AmsoilSponsor
DakotaEnthusiast
10/24/2002
08:59:20
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misato,
Just a follow up to ask if the Amsoil location in Seattle was able to help.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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misato
Dodge Dakota
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10/24/2002
15:05:23
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I haven't checked yet. no shift kit yet so I wont do it this weekend and I have more time to call around. I'll call him first.
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BlueCC00RT
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10/24/2002
16:54:19
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AmsoilSponsor,
is there a place to get a listing of local amsoil dealers? i live in washington state also but i live in Auburn ... seattle is too far to drive for me
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dweishaar
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10/24/2002
17:34:18
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Whats the reccomendation for switching out to a full synth in a 2001 4.7? i only have 15000 on it right now, but i know how much of a difference a good synth makes. i switched from regular crude to synth in my old d-50, and that was a WORLD of difference....just looking for a little help, cause i've heard that full synth on a newer motor can be bad.
One Eyed Fox
The Baja Dak
Have you jumped a dak..........lately?
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/24/2002
17:34:29
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BlueCC00RT,
There is no "official" directory of Amsoil Dealers.
The best I can do is check with some of my contacts and send you an email (Subject:Auburn Amsoil).
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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AmsoilSponsor
DakotaEnthusiast
10/24/2002
17:43:21
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BlueCC00RT, (I'll post here since I don't have an email address for you)
If convenient, See if this is a retail location for Amsoil:
Amsoil A A Direct Warehouse
702 37th Street Northeast
Auburn, WA
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dweishaar,
Synthetic Motor oils are "NOT" bad for engines ... whatever the mileage. Some new vehicles come factory fill with synthetic oil.
Hope this helps you both,
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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DAKOTAKIDD
Dodge Dakota
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10/24/2002
18:18:55
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Thanks for the info guys..i will be ordering from edmonton soon. I am due for a tranny flush, I can't remember the kind of fluid again for the NV 3500?? I believe its 5w30 so a amsoil part # is??
C..
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99blkdak
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2002
07:55:28
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Here is a story for anyone who is questioning Amsoil. I was talking to a friend of mine laat night who races mini-sprints. These cars use motorcycle motors and run anywhere from 8,000 - 11-12,000rpms all race long. When he started he used Mobil 1 Synthetic, after halfway through his first season, he had to have the main bearings replaced, so he deceided to just rebuild the motor. After that rebuild, he ran Amsoil in it. After the first season (26 races) he sent the motor to his motor guy, the guy tore it apart and called him and said "how may races have you run with this". My buddy told him 26 races. The guy didn't believe him. The guy said that the motor looks like it has only been run for 3 races. Told my buddy that he was putting the motor back together and sending it back. Next Season goes by, same thing. Third season goes by, he send the motor to the guy already in his mind that the motor needs to be rebuilt, the guy tells my buddy that he could run another season on it, but it was a judgement call. They deceided to rebuild it anyway just to be on the safe side. During tear down, he looked at the main bearings and they looked like bearings in a street bike with 1000 miles on it. Needless to say, he hasn't run anything but amsoil in anything he owns since that. My next oil change will be to Amsoil from Valvoline Synthetic. Anyway, sorry so long, just wanted to let you guys know what this stuff can do.
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/25/2002
11:54:10
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99blkdak,
Thanks for the story. Unfortunately there will be some on this forum that will think I posted that story under an alias. Though the following picture is not "mini-sprints", I'm posting it because the "mini-sprints" use "motorcycle motors":
*** Mike LaRocco and Team AMSOIL Win US OPEN Supercross ***
--- Mike LaRocco Holds Up A Check For $100,000
After Winning The US Open Supercross in Las Vegas. ---
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99blkdak
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2002
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Only difference between LaRocco's bike and the mini-sprints is that the mini-sprints run at a very high RPM, most MX bikes don't run that much above 9 grand. Another thing is that if anyone thinks that you were the one that posted, look at the email address. Amsoil doesn't pay me, I have never used it, but I plan on it with my next oil change. I just thought it was pretty cool how much better the oil was in his mini-sprint than Mobil 1. My real question though is how much better is it than Valvoline Synthetic? I have never run anything but Valvoline synthetic in anything I have owned. I had a 91 Eagle Talon TSI (turbo, AWD) car was awesome. got about 300 miles to the tank when I got it. At the first oil change (while I owned it) the car had 40,000 miles on it. I changed all fluids, to Valvoline Synthetic, front, rear diff, tranny(5sp w/ built in transfer case) and motor. After doing this the car went from 300 miles a tank to about 325+ depending on how I drove it and yes I drove it hard. Why wouldn't you, it's a 4 banger w/ turbo, AWD, and a 5 speed. it was fast.
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/25/2002
12:58:17
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99blkdak,
I'm kinda busy but over the weekend I'll check all my information to see if any of my contacts have run an oil analysis comparing the two. I hope to post the results early next week.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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99blkdak
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2002
13:05:59
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That would be cool. Not trying to knock Amsoil or anything especially because of my buddies story. I have just always used Valvoline Synthetic since it came out.
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/25/2002
15:30:41
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99blkdak,
In the interim, let me share this information with you.
Valvoline Synthetic uses a Group III (hydrocracked) base oil, so it's not technically a "true" synthetic (blame Castrol...but that's another story), and there really is NO comparison between it and Amsoil Series 2000, which is a true synthetic (Group IV, PAO's or Polyalfaolefins - and/or - Group V, Esters),... most "true" synthetics are a combination of both.
If a comparison was to be made it should have been made between Valvoline and Amsoil XL7500 (was a Group IV / Group IV), now an API Rated Group III, due to the demands of the "quick lube" stations.
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Whatever the customers choice, I believe Amsoil's additives package is superior to Valvoline's additive's package.
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It is also impossible to list all the available oils in a small catalog, and I believe they are trying to relate comparisons that are between the same viscosity oils (except Mobil 1 which is 15W-50). My guess would be that Valvoline Racing Oil 20W-50 is well known, so it seemed logical to use it in comparison as the other viscosities aren't as popular.
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I hope you were able to keep up with me. :-)
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P.S. Double check to see which Amsoil product was used as a comparison.
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The following information is provided -- NOT to disrespect any other manufacturers products -- but ... FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY:
By nature, Esters tend to swell seals, while PAOs tend to shrink them. So to counter this effect, the oil companies mix these two fluids (Group IV and Group V). Some oils like Redline lean more towards a higher mix of Esters, while others like Mobil 1 have a higher mixture of PAOs. Esters are generally regarded as more stable. Remember my earlier comment ... most "true" synthetics are a combination of both Group IV and Group V..
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Due to the recent reformulation of Amsoil XL7500 to a Group III, I have no available analysis between it and Valvoline.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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MightyDakSXT
GenIII
10/25/2002
15:47:37
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It's been a couple months now and I've still not received my information on AMSOil products. My truck is due for an oil change in a couple of weeks. I was going to give AMSOil a try, but I'll have to stick with Mobil 1 one more time 'round. This is why it sucks to have to buy products through people rather than just going to a store.
2002 RC SXT, 3.9 Liter V6, 5-spd, 3.55 rear, Extang Tonneau, Autolite 3923 Plugs, Borg Warner Cap & Rotor, Quick D Intake, Modified V8 TB, Gibson Exhaust, Robert Shaw 180° T-stat, Custom Grille, JBA 9mm Wires, Clear Corners, Window Tint, Weatherflectors
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misato
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2002
16:03:06
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I'll second that.. but I'm still going to get it.(amsoil) I did find a store that carrys it. just have to drive 1hr to get it, but I go there all the time so its no big deal. The guy from auburn(BlueCC00RT) should call them , Centerline in puyallup says they have amsoil. thats only about 15min form auburn.
what does the transfer case use? I thought I saw a post that said they used the same in the tranny. the universal ATF. I would have thought that it used gear oil.
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/25/2002
16:03:49
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MightyDakSXT,
Did you request a catalog thru me? I can't check my records without a name and address. I must be honest (not that the rest of the time I lie), I receive approximately 50 catalog requests each month (just from advertising on the web) plus about 50 catalog requests from other sources. If any of the information is inaccurate the catalog is not received by the customer and is returned. All efforts are made (usually via an email address) to correct the problem. Human input error is usually the problem. Let me know whatever it is that I can do for you ... or if you are totally miffed and don't wish to consider Amsoil ... Mobil1 will give you good service. :-)
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/25/2002
16:11:49
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misato,
For the Dodge Dakota I can't give you a quick answer as to "what does the transfer case use?" I'll have to check my books. Can anyone tell me if there are different manufacturers for the "case" or are they all the same. In the interim I'll be checking myself.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/25/2002
16:23:12
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misato,
Dodge Dakota 1993 - 2000 models for the transfer case:
GL-5 which translates into Amsoil Series 2000 75w-90 Gear Oil
Dodge Dakota 2001 - 2003 models for the transfer case:
ATF+4 which translates into Amsoil Universal ATF.
Again, Hope this helps !!!
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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DakotaEnthusiast
10/26/2002
12:39:51
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99blkdak,
This was the "Amsoil Tech Answer" to your "Valvoline vs. Amsoil" question. I think you might agree that my answer is better than theirs:
Amsoil Answer: "We’re not sure we understand the question completely, but if your asking why Valvoline was only compared in one viscosity, we have published other comparisons, and they rotate in the advertising and literature. Obviously it’s not possible to depict all the comparison graphs as it’s just too extensive."
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Also ... If ANYONE (my customer or not) has ever requested a catalog thru my website and not received it, or had any difficulties with Amsoil Corporate whatsoever, please let me know and I will do everything I can to remedy the problem.
Thanks !!!
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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wes
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10/26/2002
19:39:35
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Has anyone order one of the Amsoil cataloges and not received it. I have been waiting over two month and a half months. I have requested it twice and sent in a separate e-mail. Still nothing.
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