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DakotaDan
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9/05/2002
20:21:29
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I've tried Autolites and 180* T-stat and neither one had a good effect on my truck
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748
OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K
Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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98FlameRdDak
Dodge Dakota
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9/05/2002
20:25:52
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The Autolites aren't doing a very good job in my truck either. Since I have installed them I have noticed more pinging than with the original Champion truck plugs. Usually my truck pings when the A/C is running. When the A/C is not being used, it will ping but not nearly as bad. I installed a 180 degree T-stat as well, but the only thing I have noticed with that is the truck doesn't run as hot as it used too. The K&N air filter by far has done the most. Just the air filter alone makes one heck of a sucking sound and did help increase the gas milage from 13.3 miles to the gallon to 14.9 if I am doing my math right.
I did move my IAT sensor as well and haven't really noticed any gain from that.
You asked.....I answered. :-)
Mark
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Bob W
GenIII
9/05/2002
21:05:40
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UH, did the 180 stat run cooler then the 190 what did you expect to happen?
Gibson headers, Gibson Cat-back, Edelbrock IAS shocks, K & N drop in, 180 stat, Jet stage II chip, ARE Lid
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5pnt9ltrluv
R/T
9/05/2002
21:24:53
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Are you guys expecting a huge gain in HP with these mods? If you are, then you will definitely be disappointed. You would not be able to feel the 1-3 HP gains that are produced with these mods. These mods are generally for enhancing other mods, not to just function by themselves.
Kris
Powerdyne w/ 6#, True dual Flowmaster 40's, MSD 6BTM w/ Blaster SS coil, Taylor 8mm, Flowmetrics 50mm t- body, JBA headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, , Ported 1.92 R/T heads, 4bbl M1, 24# injectors, Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers, Hotchkis 2/3 w/ Nitro shocks, GTS hood
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DaveR
GenII
9/05/2002
22:14:23
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Painting stuff yellow didn't seem to add much horse power, definatly not the 15 I expected. Maybe only 5 extra HP :)
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Dakota Bob
GenII
9/05/2002
22:21:34
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Took off the msd blaster ss coil and went back to the stock coil the miss is gone and the black magic 150 fan wasn't enough to keep the engine cool when pulling my boat, went back to the stock fan.
Bob
94 CC 3.9 Stage2 Chip,JBA Headers,19# FI,Flow Master 40s, Auto Lite Plugs, K/N Chrome Filter, 195 T Stat ,TPS Adjustment,Flometrics TB, Mopar Wires
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big_torque
Dodge Dakota
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9/05/2002
22:26:14
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what has made me :-((( :
Jet stage 2 - we all knew that
MP PCM - runs too rich @ WOT, cost me 3mph in 1/4 mi.
Hi flow cat - very loud now @ 2000 rpm ("drone")
no noticeable gain
MT ET streets - same 60` time 2.2+
headers and K&N FIPK best mods so far.
M1 2bbl w/ turtle going on this weekend. Better be some improvement or I`m gonna sell it.
99 R/T 11,500 mi.
15.01 @ 92.3
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DakotaDan
*GenIII*
9/05/2002
22:27:47
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Bob W & others
Yes the 180* stat did run cooler, but after my truck would come up to temp. it would cough and sputter like it hadn't warmed up. It was so bad that once I stepped on it hard to pull out into traffic and it sounded like it backfired in the TB and almost died, not what you want to happen in the middle of traffic.
Tha Autolites were no better, the idle was great but as soon as I would step on it there was a stumble right off idle.
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748
OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K
Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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Pistolero
Dodge Dakota
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9/05/2002
22:32:49
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Dan, did you notice any negative results from your 180 t-stat, or did the engine temp just go down? I've got a t-stat, but I haven't installed it yet. Did you reinstall your stock t-stat? Would you say that going to the trouble of changing to the 180 is worth it? Thanks...
Pistol
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R/Tinker
Dodge Dakota
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9/05/2002
23:21:30
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Dakota Dan- I have the same stuttering prob/backfiring in the TB right off the line once in a while also, the wierd part is it only does it now and then but mostly when its "cold" and all i've done is adjust my tps to .78-.80 roughly(it's kinda hard to do by yourself), and I have a homebrew intake, and deleted the spacer in the TB over the holes. And also i went down to the team machinist this evening and was gonna have TB spacer made it doesnt cost anything to have it made and i was wondering if its a help or a hinder. I read the archives and it seems like noone likes them on the R/T's but i dont understand how it can hurt anything.
Still a little new guys help me out. I am really worried about the backfiring in the TB.
Doc
02 CC Black R/T
www.quaethemmotorsports.com
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
9/05/2002
23:24:21
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On my 99 3.9L RC 4x4 I had a Jet Stage II chip, 180 t-stat, Flowmaster cat back dual side exit exhaust and the Jacobs Energy Team(HO coil, computer, wires) that set me back over $900 for all and installed by myself.
Jacobs- Spent many nights removing and regapping plugs trying to find a gap that worked best only to end up with a more cluttered engine bay and only slightly improved idle and a need to change plugs every 6K due to excessive electrode wear from high output coil that caused really rough idle and decreased mpg:( My gas mileage did not change with fresh plugs and no noticeable seat-of-the-pants improvement as much as I wanted to believe it did after laying out $550 beans.
Jet Stage II- paperweight, no change in performance, gas mileage decreased from stepping on gas trying to find some better performance.
Flowmaster- lost gas mileage and low end torque but sounded cool(K&N FIPK may have made this mod worth the money).
I removed all mods a couple days prior to trading my Dak in for my current Dak and notice the truck actually ran better and more "pep". Sold the parts for half what I paid for it, my ass is still sore from that waste of hard earned money. Guess I should have known better than try to make V-8 power out of a V-6 without jumping into a turbo first. Either way I couldn't be happier with my 4.7 from stock to the mods done so far have only improved performance but also decreased mpg, small price to pay for miles of smiles.
Hopefully my wasted money wisdom will save another 3.9L Dak owner.
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid w/homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 305 70-16 X-Terrains on AR Terons
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DaveR
GenII
9/05/2002
23:42:50
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hey big_torque,
If possible could I talk you into sending me a pic of the turtle? I have been trying to understand this part and was considering making one, but it's kind of hard to do when I have no clue what it looks like or exactly how it works.
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mopar2ya
GenI
9/05/2002
23:55:37
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Flowmasters were the worst investment for me and my 4.7. Lost power and gained cab noise.
mopar2ya
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mopar2ya
GenI
9/05/2002
23:57:14
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Flowmasters were the worst investment for me and my 4.7. Lost power and gained cab noise.
mopar2ya
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xplikt
GenIII
9/06/2002
00:48:16
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I found one today actually. Racing harnesses do not fit our trucks because the bucket seats have the built-in headrests. That was kind of a disappointment to me. I guess now I got to find some aftermarket seats or a set from another vehicle.
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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YA
Dodge Dakota
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9/06/2002
05:38:06
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DaveR- Yellow paint only increases horse power if the correct stickers are applied to it.
Wider tires were no help at the drag strip. Tire compound is what counts.
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DakotaDan
*GenIII*
9/06/2002
07:02:22
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Guy's
The Autolites I run for 500+ miles and the 180* stat I left in for 300+ miles.
When I removed the plugs and put the champions back in the truck returned to it's normal self.
Same with the 180* stat after I pulled it out the truck hasn't backfired yet.
I'm not looking for BIG HP out of these little mods. but I sure didn't expect them to make things run worse.
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748
OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K
Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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Izzy
Dodge Dakota
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9/06/2002
08:50:36
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Sounds like the regualar mods are pretty much trial and error and only work for some people and not others.
I did the thermo change and notice my 4.7 running cooler and no other problems.
Did the switch over to the Autolites and haven't noticed any problems.
Relocated the IAT to the airbox just before it attaches to the TB and no problems there either.
About the only real difference I DO notice is that my truck seems a li'l peppier and I see 2-3 more mph on I-95 when going/coming from work.
If simple mods like these gained any significant HP then we wouldn't need NOS, Turbo's or Superchargers now would we?
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