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KCDak
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9/03/2002
17:48:15

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OK, I'm looking for my next mod. I can spend up to about $300. I have considered the following:

1. Jet Stage II
2. New exhaust
3. Modified TB

What do you think? What is the best bang for my buck with my current mods? I will probably end up doing all 3 of the above in time, but not right now.

Thanks,
Jason

'00 Sport Quad 4.7L 4x4 3.55, Autolite 3923's, BFG AT T/A,
IAT Adjuster, 360° Air Intakez, Robert Shaw 180° thermostat,
Line-X sprayed bed and nerf bars, Roll-n-Lock tonneau

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9/03/2002
17:52:42

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woo hoo .. non members are allowed to post again!!!

Anyways, to answer your question, here's what I've figured the top three bang for the buck mods are for the 4.7L:

1) HO Cams ($73 USD each or something)
2) PCM Flash ($349-$500 USD depending on who does it)
3) Remove Cat or replace it with a high-flow one. (FREE - $200ish)

(and in that order too)

Without the free flowing cat, a cat back exhaust will get you next to nothing.

That's based on all the info I could collect from this and various other websites. Hope it helps!

Keep on Truckin!
Canucker



born2steel21
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9/03/2002
17:56:44

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I wouldn't spend the money on a chip. Pretty much everyone I've talked to has said they're a waste of money.

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9/03/2002
18:08:40

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you have a 2000, so you're in good shape,
have mike leach flash your pcm, you may as
well take that $300 and use it as toilet paper if
you're considering buying the jet chip.

Mike leach:

(714) 639-5220

01 4.7 CC auto 3.92 LS
Dynomax 3" catback, dumped
HO cams, HO intake manifold
ported-polished 68mm TB
180 stat, no clutch fan
airaid intake, DJMdrop 3-6

KCDak
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9/03/2002
18:56:25

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What is the turn-around time to have the PCM flashed? If I went to a local performance shop would they know how to do it so that I wouldn't have to be without my truck for a few days?

Thanks for all the info,
Jason

'00 Sport Quad 4.7L 4x4 3.55, Autolite 3923's, BFG AT T/A,
IAT Adjuster, 360° Air Intakez, Robert Shaw 180° thermostat,
Line-X sprayed bed and nerf bars, Roll-n-Lock tonneau

Bob W
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9/03/2002
21:27:13

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Flash or exhaust.

Gibson headers, Gibson Cat-back, Edelbrock IAS shocks, K & N drop in, 180 stat, Jet stage II chip, ARE Lid

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9/03/2002
22:47:47

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With your year truck the flash would give you the best results. More than any of the other combined. Mike Leach computer flash.

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2002 Quad Cab SLT Plus 4.7 Every Available Option
Access Tonnoue Cover/Bedrug/360 Air Intakez/Jet Stage 2
180 Robertshaw/Roadmaster Active Suspension
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mills
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9/03/2002
23:18:31

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i have a question about the mike leach pcm flash. is this something that will have to change as you add mods? for example, if i flashed before buying exhaust would i have to have it reflashed after buying the exhaust? and also, if i reset the pcm will it erase the flash? im new to this computer business...i was going to buy exhaust next but im thinking the pcm thing might be the way to go...or the ho cams...but i fear tearing into the engine - especially since this is my daily driver....

sorry about the novel....just curious
mills

burn dust.....eat my rubber!!! - Clark W. Griswold

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9/04/2002
00:09:49

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I still have the HO Cams & Intake buy going on.
Check out my post in the group buy section for more info.

Z-Tube, R/T Rims, SSB Rear Disc Conversion, Alpine Head-Unit, Infinity Kappa Speakers, SilverStar Headlights, HO Cams & Intake in the box.

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9/04/2002
11:19:53

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mills:

>if i flashed before buying exhaust would i have to have it reflashed after buying the exhaust?

Only if it's a major change ... e.g. if you had the flash for a stock engine, then put on exhaust, hi-flow cat, headers, intake, cams, and ported your heads .. you might need it re-flashed. For that, Leach charges $150 ($400 for the original flash). If you go turbo or S/C later, he'll only charge you the balance of the $650 it costs for the S/C flash

>and also, if i reset the pcm will it erase the flash?

No. But a dealer would have no troubles flashing the latest software update overtop of it, so be careful of them! (I think Leach will reflash you for free if that happens though)
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If you call Leach ... Talk to Tom (Tom Zimmer I think). He'd be the guy actually doing the flash.

KC:
turnaround time is 2-3 days from you to him to you.




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9/04/2002
11:27:31

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I am fairly mechanical, and I have the FSM, but I have never done quite a project like changing out the cams. How big of a project is this? Is this something that I should have someone else do for me? How long should I reasonably expect for this project to take?

Thanks,
Jason

'00 Sport Quad 4.7L 4x4 3.55, Autolite 3923's, BFG AT T/A,
IAT Adjuster, 360° Air Intakez, Robert Shaw 180° thermostat,
Line-X sprayed bed and nerf bars, Roll-n-Lock tonneau

Canucker
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9/04/2002
12:36:22

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well I haven't done it yet, but I plan to .. the cams are on order.

Far as I can tell, it's pretty straight forward... it'll probably be a weekend project, but some guys who have done it before say they can do it in 2hrs ...

I've heard up to $500 for a mechanic to install (not worth it IMHO).

You'll need the chain wedge tool (or something fabricated to resemble it) .. I think some guys have some pictures of it around here.



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9/04/2002
12:45:42

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NOOO! jet stageII, it's trash.



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