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James Roberts
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8/20/2002
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Ok...ive got a kit from NX.....and im getting ready to take plugs out/replace plugs.
will autolite 5224's work? and what should i gap them to?
please answer asap
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James Roberts
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CW
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8/20/2002
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What engine? 3923s usualy work well from what I know.
2001 4.7HO RC 5sp 3.92 LSD
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James Roberts
Dodge Dakota
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its a 99 5.9 (R/T)
i heard that too..but i was also told that this plug is cold natured..and would work well gapped to 45
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FazDak
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8/20/2002
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So dont gap to 45, go with 38.
I have a chopped off Mag V8 and 3923's do perfectly with NX.
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James Roberts
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8/20/2002
20:00:40
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Thanks for answering me guys
ok ive got 3 in..lol im slow... and i gapped em to .045
should be ok right?
any other great wisdom that could save me time/money/explosions in the near future? all help is greatly appreciated.... any tips on runnin the lines...hidin the lines? lol
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IntenseDak39
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8/20/2002
20:29:59
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make sure you use a lot of teflon sealant on all the AN fittings.... with out your truck on open the bottle and activate the system to see (hear) if there are any leaks....
i used champions at first and was going through a set of them every month... i switched to the 3923 and still have them in... very good plug
edelbrock intake, modified manifold, headers, flowmaster, 24lb injectors, mp throttle body, 1.7 rr, msd 6a, msd wires, blaster 3, b&m shifter, shift kit, coilovers, drag shocks, ladderbars, panhard bar, 150# coils, electric fan, oil cooler, 180 thermostat, autolite 3923, corbeau seats, slicks, mojo
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99DakJR
Dodge Dakota
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8/20/2002
22:51:15
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Man you are gonna love the kit, what a blast,
youll find yourself using that 100hp shot real
quick! Ive gone through 2 bottles in a week!
What a blast! Definetly use a bunch of sealant,
my fittings leaked like crazy.
have fun,
Josh
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James Roberts
Dodge Dakota
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8/20/2002
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ok
dont mean to sound scared or anything
but is there anything wierd i should expect? loud noises? etc..
never had n20 on a vehicle before
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nossteve
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
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MY NX KIT IS ON THE WAY.WHAT PLUGS TO USE ON THE 4.7?BRAND/PART #/COPPER?
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conig
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
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nossteve- go with the 3923's. no offense but youve asked this question a bunch of times and have gotten your answer.
oh,and by the way when posting on the internet caps means your yelling.
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FazDak
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8/21/2002
10:14:17
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Just make sure you wire it for WOT like they reccomend and you should be "weird, noise" free. lol
Except for the exceptionally strange amount of times you will be visiting the local Nitrous fill station!
Naawwwws=FUN
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IntenseDak39
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8/21/2002
10:24:55
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dont worry james,
fazdak just wishes he was weird noise free!
edelbrock intake, modified manifold, headers, flowmaster, 24lb injectors, mp throttle body, 1.7 rr, msd 6a, msd wires, blaster 3, b&m shifter, shift kit, coilovers, drag shocks, ladderbars, panhard bar, 150# coils, electric fan, oil cooler, 180 thermostat, autolite 3923, corbeau seats, slicks, mojo
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James Roberts
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
10:43:58
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Well I haven't got to try it out yet,
must fill bottle up today at lunch. I have an open element air filter, with a 4" K&N filter in those crome things like the old school style (i have a dual scoop cervinis hood...cant figure out any better way to force air in yet...
so i put the nozzle on the bottom plate in the back up through it (tried to hide everything best i could.) Also..i had an idea... instead of putting that WOT switch on it...i wanted to ....use the arming switch..and then when i arm it....have another button to flip to turn it on...on the dash or something (arm switch in ashtray) ever saw those switches in like helicopters with the covers over them? like missle switches..lol. wonder where i could get those at?
any opinions on doing that in opposition to the WOT switch on the throttle connection?
God i cant wait to burn the rubber off the ol' pirellis heheheh
gonna have to get you guys some pictures...see what u think about my paint job
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MikeD
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8/21/2002
13:32:12
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I heard from people thats used them that NGK plugs are the best plug to use w/ nitrous. Not sure the part number though.
~Mike~
Get In...Sit Down...Shutup...& Hangon
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BlackDakRacer
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
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the "missile switches" you speak are at an hardware or auto parts store, at least here they are. Bombs Away huh?
~~Eric
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conig
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8/21/2002
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I'd use the missile switch to arm the system. but you should use some kind of momentary to sparay the truck so incase anything happens you can remove your finger from it. leaving nitrous and fuel spraying after the throttle body closes is not a good idea.
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James Roberts
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8/21/2002
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Conig
I'd say you are absolutely right. (Can anyone say boom>?)
ok so which would be better, put that WOT switch on the throttle cable bracket (for lack of proper term) or under my Hippie gas pedal (just kidding....ok not totally kidding...ill have one as soon as i find one...hehe)
see the reason i was wanting another button is...that i dont really plan on using the nitrous till about halfway thru 2nd gear...and my foot is ALWAYS to the floor....
ok...just got a lightbulb...basically i can put that WOT switch under the pedal...and run till 2nd gear..(say 3500 rpms...) and THEN reach over and flip the arm switch right??
sounds good on paper..but like i said...i dont know that much about nitrous.... just that
1 it makes you go fast (always a plus)
2 its expensive
3 it will explode your airhat from what i read if something is wrong....
and
4 the nx tech confused me today..he told me i should have gapped the plugs at .035 instead of .045....is that true??
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NOSSTEVE
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
17:30:09
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conig,
thanks for your info.but i believe i can post as many times as needed to get all the info i need.who says you are the sole authority on nos setups.i do not believe anyone on here that i have read is an expert.if they were they would not be asking questions,and includes you and myself.
thanks for the suggestion on the plugs.and for the caps,i know what they mean.did not realize they were on.................
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FazDak
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8/21/2002
20:08:09
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People, please dont turn this thread into another hate thread, one is getting way to much attention and dosnt deserve it.
LOL, IntenseDak39!! but....... I didnt say weird noises, I said "weird, noises" and yes I have a few of both but not together. lol!!
You got it pretty right James, you don not want Nitrous in the intake under any situation other than WOT. Your kit didnt come with a WOT switch? i think it should have, mine did.
Just find a spot in the TB linkage support, thers lotsa room there.
Wire it with a master arm inside then to the WOT switch that way you can floor it but it wont activate untill you hit both being the WOT when floord then the master at a given point.
Thats how I've got it wired and it really works well in the exact situation you described.
Hope this helped. Good luck
PS: Did I mention gap @38 a few posts back? humm........
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James Roberts
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8/21/2002
21:41:29
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Gap at 38. 10-4 nx told me today to gap at 35...last night when i changed plugs...i gapped at 45...stupid me
yes it came with the wot switch..it just looked a lil flimsy...kinda scared me. but im gonna run mine just like you described...
didnt get time to finish last night...but ill finish and get the bottle filled saturday...AFTER i take the autolite 5224s out and put in 3923s.... anyone need some 5 day old plugs? lol
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DaPurpleRT
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8/22/2002
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Hey James, I'm gonna try and get my truck out to Aaron's place (if he's still around) tomorrow and you need to help me install my nawse kit damnit. LOL!
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James Roberts
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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Ryan,
Not a problem installing..but Aaron is gone to college at eastern... we CAN do it at my work tho...if you want to drive to foggy mountain..we will do it this weekend...if not..im sure we can find somewhere close to your house to do it...
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conig
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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nossteve I think you took my post wrong I was just saying some of the most respected and experienced 4.7l owners(not myself) have posted there responces a couple times I wasn't hateing. But if you are looking for information on a nitrous injected 4.7l the info is hard to find and usually is a bogus post(like some guy saying he runs venom2000 like a year ago when the returnless fuel system vcn2000 was just released)
I by no means consider myself a nitrous expert- but I have had a 95 contour on n2o a 98 contour on n2o and an 85 bronco on n2o(bogger). And every time I follow the instructions in the kit. and out of the kits I have had 2 nos and one zex and they all simply say two stage colder plugs and mount the nozzle six to eight inches from the tb.
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FazDak
GenII
8/22/2002
15:08:05
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Cool, dude.
Good luck with it and get ready to have fun now!!!
Damn, you would think I sell the stuff or something that way I carry on about it!! lol
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NOSSTEVE
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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conig,
thanks,this is my first experience with nos.
i had alot of experience with superchargers.you are right there is not much out there on nos for daks.but i guess all the nos guidelines work on all vehicles and you have to tune to your application.i'd hate to learn something the hard way.
my truck is basically a street truck,i've had it for 2 1/2 yrs,and it only has 8000 miles.it has never been driven in the rain but once.i drive it to work and sometimes to lowes or take the trash.i show it some.i meant to use it as a "truck" because we needed one so bad.i sold my blown '98 mustang gt for it.but the hotrodder in me just took over,modifying,etc.i just can't keep one stock.our family car is a 2000 grand prix gt.i moified the exhaust and intake on it!
steve
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conig
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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I hear yeah there I bought this truck after I totaled my svt contour hoping I would leave it farely stock but if you've ever seen my sig at moparchat that hasn't happened. lol
speaking of mustangs I can't wait till our dealer gets in the new 390hp 6speed cobra I'm goona give that thing hell.
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NOSSTEVE
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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yeah that car is awesome,(especially from the factory)i say the car and driver show a week or so ago on it.they gave it big reviews.got to go,my wife just got back from getting rusty wallaces autograph.the race is in bristol this week and its crazy in east tennessee !
steve
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DaPurpleRT
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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Hey man, get on ICQ tonight, let's talk.
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nossteve
Dodge Dakota
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8/23/2002
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dapurplert,
are you wanting to talk to me?
if so where?
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Ryan Stewart
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8/23/2002
01:54:57
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Nossteve,
nah man. Me and James live here in the same place so he's gonna help me isntall my nawse. Thanks for asking tho.
James, I'll hunt ya down tomorrow night! Fill that bottle before then if you can!!! :)
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