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Eazy
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7/03/2002
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Does anyone know if somewhere out there someone offers financing on Vortech superchargers? I mean $3,000 is alot to put down all at once.

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7/03/2002
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Your local bank? Get a good rate though.



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7/03/2002
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Yea but will a bank give you money for something like that? I thought they only give you money for cars and houses, not parts?



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7/03/2002
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YJ is right go with a personal loan from a bank.

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7/03/2002
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Bank will loan you money for anything as long as you credit is good. I have had many small lones to buy stuff like motorbikes holiday trailer stugg like that.

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7/03/2002
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Yeah, i got a loan for my supercharger. Still payin it off. I think i have another year or so till its all mine.

GlenC

'01, CC, SLT, 4.7, Auto, 3.55 LS
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Robert Shaw 180 T-Stat. Autolite 3923s
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Kenne Bell supercharged.
Roadmaster active suspension.

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7/03/2002
17:47:28

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Glen I see you have close to the same mods as I do on my 4.7L Dak and was wondering if you've had a chance to get some 1/4 mile times with your truck? I've been to the track twice with mine and 14.7 was the best time I've gotten. That was on a nice cool night last year when it was like 70* or so outside, and I was happy with the run. I'm 4WD and have the 5 speed with 3.92 rear though. If your 2WD, I would guess your prob. running low to mid 14's.

I love the supercharger and have had it on for a year and a half with close to 20,000 mi. put on it without a single prob. I've heard that some people have had problems with the auto trans. and the SC, have you?
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98 Black, CC, R/T
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Lowered 2" front & back
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7/04/2002
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Yuck, depending on your credit rating, most of the time you will get a better deal from a credit card. I know CapitalOne has a fixed 8.9 APR that's pretty easy to get for most people. Personal loans are around 14.something last time I looked. If you have a decent credit history go with the credit card. My credit history is awesome, but less than a year old, so I can't get any credit cards under %14.. :(



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7/04/2002
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My line of credit is prime plus 4%. About 8.25 now I think. My credit card is 18.9%. I can have a personal loan at 6.7% right now. Shop around you can do better than 9%.

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7/06/2002
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Hey Man,

If you plan on keeping your truck for a long while, then don't mess with superchargers or turbochargers. They all make big power improvements, but the engine wasn't designed for the forced induction. You'd be better off trying to find a mopar supercharger. The best possible performance you can do is get your heads ported and polished. That'll give you more hp, more torque, quicker acceleration, everything good. And the best part is it doesnt mess with your engine. Just a thought for you.



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7/06/2002
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heads ported/polished will give you 90+ hp? I
dont think so. heads ported/polished + super
charger, now you're talkin.

BTW, I am seriously thinkin about the loan, I
could probably pay it off in 6 months with this
new job....

the Dodgers are offering this new credit card,
my friend got it with 6.9% financing for 24
months, then 9% fixed....with a $6,000 limit.

hell, if I blow the motor with a supercharger, I'll
just pul off the supercharger and take it in for
warranty work ; )



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7/06/2002
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Harvey, if the engine wasn't designed for forced induction, how exactly is a mopar supercharger better than a supercharger made by another company??



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7/07/2002
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...the Dodgers?



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7/07/2002
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The only reaason I would prefer a Mopar is I think THEY know what they are doing with a Dodge engine. And I didnt say that heads would give you 90 hp, I just think its a good thing to do and it wont mess up your motor. A buddy of mine (94 gt mustang) the ONLY mod he had was heads ported and polished, it took a full second off his quarter mile time. Will a supercharger do that?



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7/07/2002
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btw, how much does getting the heads port/polished cost? And know any good houston-ish places to get it done, anyone?



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7/07/2002
09:23:02

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Harvey, I'm pretty sure that Mopar doesn't make a SC for our trucks. LOL A supercharger will take on average 1 - 1&1/2 sec. off your 1/4 mile time, depending on what other mods you may have/ or may not have allready done. Just because your buddy's Mustang GT had a full sec. benifit from head porting and polishing doesn't necessarily mean the Dodge Dakota will resopond the same way.

Don't get me wrong, I think that porting and polishing your heads can be a good way to get some extra HP out of these engines, but it's not going to be comparable to as much as a SC.

I think that running a Supercharger at the recommended boost levels and doing like the manufacturer suggests for maintaince and upkeep will make for a very safe and reliable way to make some awesome gains. Like allways using the higher octaine gas, checking/changing the oil levels in the SC regularly, ect. I've had zero problems from my Kenne Bell, had it on for over a year and a half and almost 20,000 mi. Believe me I don't baby the truck either, I see boost daily!

I'm not trying to flame you Harvey, just throwing in my two cents worth.



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7/07/2002
12:08:35

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Its all good man. I didnt really do any research on the mopar thing, just saying (I would take a trd supercharger for a tacoma over another company, trd messes around with toy engines more, I think they have the most experience). I have heard that when it rolls around to 80-90,000 miles, it'll start acting up.
I also wasnt expecting a dak to loose a full second, but it is the same principle. Good hp gains, without messing with the engine. Friend of mine has a Lightning and the day after he bought it he supercharged it. He does baby his truck, does everything for it to keep it running well, and now its being fussy. He has had it for about 6 years. Just a thought.





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7/07/2002
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the ONLY supercharger dodge used on the dakota (killer bee) and durango (shelby) is the kennybell. mopar never made a supercharger, or even put there name on one (like the TRD unit from toyota).



Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

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7/07/2002
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actually harvey, my brother in law recently
installed a TRD charger on his 01 S-runner...
he has had some real bad problems with
pinging, he called TRD, and they said the only
way to get rid of it was to get a $1300 fuel
system upgrade and a smaller (11lb) pulley.
So now instead of the initial cost of $3000, his
charger is gonna eventually cost him over
$4000....yeah TRD plays around with the toy
engines, thats why toyota warranties the truck
with their supercharger installed, but so do
most companies. If you supercharge your
truck, and something breaks, its covered
under warranty as long as the supercharger
had no effect on the part that failed.

so far, I havent heard anything bad from
people using the kenne bell setup on their
4.7's, which is a lot more than what can be
said about people running TRD
superchargers on their tacoma.



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7/07/2002
20:36:29

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Well damn it,

Now that I actually checked out the systems I feel like an ass. Its all good though. Forgive me for my ignorance, lol.



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7/07/2002
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D, i know you are a little familiar with the S-runner. if im not mistaking, they come with 6#'s of boost from the factory. how did toyota get them to run at 6#'s, but if someone (like your brother in law) wanted to add one to their NA taco, they have to go to a 11# pulley?

does the S-runner have lower compression?

also, does the TRD unit just pump up the fuel pressure like the powerdyne, or does it have aux. injectors?

Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

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7/08/2002
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the S-runners came N/A from the factory, the
TRD package was an option that the factory
can install, and still remain under the regular
warranty. It's kinda funny that the trucks fuel
system cant even handle the 6lb pulley that
comes with the supercharger... his rear end
couldnt handle it either at the track a couple of
weeks ago, I think his lowering blocks
exploded (AIM blocks) they said they were
aluminum when he bought them, but were
some kind of metal compound.

I dont really know much about his truck, except
that he is pissed that it wont run "to his liking"
with the 6lb pulley. It's not really that fast for a
supercharged truck, especially for how light it
is... I think he is 4 or 5 tenths faster than me in
the 1/8th, and I have nothing on my truck. I
borrowed his truck for a couple days, and only
noticed the pinging in 5th gear at low RPM's
(freeway) So I dont think that its that big of a
deal.

I believe the TRD has auxilary injectors, but I
am not positive. I think he told me that part of
the fuel system upgrade was to switch to 30#
fuel injectors. I am pretty much clueless when
it comes to superchargers, which is part of the
reason that I ask so many friggin questions
about them.

hopefully, when I get these cams, LS/gears
and manifold installed, I will be running mid to
low 9's in the 1/8th ; ) then he has no choice
but to switch to an 11lb pulley.





kota on 20s
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7/08/2002
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cool, so both your brother and brother-in-law have supercharged taco's, or is it the same person?...(just wondering)

Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

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7/08/2002
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same guy you met, he calls me his brother,
but he is my brother in law (fiancees
brother)....I call my girlfriend my girlfriend, she
calls me her fiancee....I just cant bring my self
to say "fiancee" it sounds kinda fruity...I would
much rather say wife, but I have to wait a
couple months before I hit that stage.

my brother brother drives a nissan sentra.
LOL



kota on 20s
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7/08/2002
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lol... cool.

hey this saturday, some of us are going to california speedway. you should come, and get on a 1/4 track!

Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

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7/09/2002
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Good point kota, can't just bolt on an 11lb boost sc with stock comp.say goodby to head gaskets and if you make it up to 4 or 5 grand = serious internal destruction.
P.s. what is with this infactuation with bolt on hp. all these litle bolt on mods for 2-10 hp. here and there on a motor that will never make more than 300 hp., save ur $ and build a real motor and when its's ready do a swap.lol my buddy's got the same desiese, $5,000 worth of bolt on cold air intake and other crap that gets him 14's ..... 14's are pathetic! Got 14's when I was a teenager in a ragedy Nova .



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7/09/2002
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Dunno bout everyone else but I for one don't have the money, time, equipment/location, and advanced knowhow to build a new motor and do a swap..



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7/09/2002
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Guess thats why u waste all that money on Bullsh!t.Buy a book, read hot rod mag. sh!t it's alot cheaper than paying 1k or more on 20 or 30 hp.



kota on 20s
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7/09/2002
20:35:49

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if you thing big engine = go fast you are wrong.

it is about hp VS weight.

look at the lotus elise. it only has like 140 hp, but runs 13's because it weighs about 1300 lbs

on the other hand, you could have a 500 CID engine in a 76 eldorado, and run 17's all day long while getting 9 mpg.

Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

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7/09/2002
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"to say "fiancée" it sounds kinda fruity"

haha, damn straight (and no pun intended)!


nuckenfuts, have you ever actually DONE an engine swap. Hell yeah is it cool and a great bang for the buck, but damn is it a lot of work. There are so many things that can easily go wrong, be overlooked, and 'specially are unexpected. Things you never even considered, WHAM! they hit you in the face. If you have the time and a shop to do it, I say go for it, but most people do not have either of those. When you have to start buying enough tools to fill Sears, it chews holes in the pocket book.

I notice you like to play devil's advocate on the forum, and you criticize very well, but you never have a solution or reasoning behind anything you say.

"Got 14's when I was a teenager in a ragedy Nova."
"it is about hp VS weight."

lol, how much does a Nova weigh again and what's in it..




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7/09/2002
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how about a loan shark


just borrow the cash and move and change ur name



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