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Geoff
GenIII
5/07/2002
04:18:05
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I am installing my JBA headers hopefully friday and have all the tools and stuff i need except for RTV.
I went to the autostore and that crap makes zero sense.
I looked at Ultra Gray, Ultra Copper, and Ultra Black they all say high temp but not how high one had a temperature but that was only "intermittent" rating. the only temps i saw were between 600-700 degrees, is that enough?
Is the only difference to color. Seems as if that one company makes the same crap in different colors to make more money, Oh yeah if you put the word "ultra" in front of the color that adds $1
Help
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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Lesley
GenIII
5/07/2002
08:21:37
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Geoff, what is RTV? I got my mechanic to install mine, the only thing that I picked up were a gasket and some header bolts. He used Loctite on the bolts.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55, Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 TB, FMS 19 lb fuel injectors, Have, but not installed:Brass cap & rotor, JBA 9mm cables, Borla tip, IAT adjuster,Boyd Coddington Smoot
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Geoff
GenIII
5/07/2002
08:37:16
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The JBA instrustions said to use RTV (that silicone liquid gasket stuff) on the coupling between the header collector and the Y-pipe. I guess it is supposed to ensure a good seal
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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handi2
GenIII
5/07/2002
09:22:48
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I have never heard of using RTV silicone on any part of the exhaust system.
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180 Robertshaw/Roadmaster Active Suspension
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Geoff
GenIII
5/07/2002
09:28:05
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well that's straight from the JBA Shorty instruction sheet?
what do i do skip it?
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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Lesley
GenIII
5/07/2002
09:37:45
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Hey Geoff. I just talked to my mechanic, he said that putting RTV on would be a waste as it would just blow out. He uses copper gaskets on his race cars, mine has just regular gaskets on and is fine.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55, Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 TB, FMS 19 lb fuel injectors, Have, but not installed:Brass cap & rotor, JBA 9mm cables, Borla tip, IAT adjuster,Boyd Coddington Smoot
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Geoff
GenIII
5/07/2002
09:44:55
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I have the gaskets for the part that mounts to the engine the instructions say to put rtv on the other part where it connects to the exhaust did he use s agasket there? If so where would i get one
Thanks
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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Lesley
GenIII
5/07/2002
09:54:41
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He did say that you could use RTV there, but he doesn't bother.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55, Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 TB, FMS 19 lb fuel injectors, Have, but not installed:Brass cap & rotor, JBA 9mm cables, Borla tip, IAT adjuster,Boyd Coddington Smoot
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Geoff
GenIII
5/07/2002
09:59:32
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Cool thanks I'll go ahead and skip it and see what happens. I fyou happen to talk to him again would you mind asking how to determine if there is a leak after the install. Is it real obvious?
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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Lesley
GenIII
5/07/2002
10:13:56
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Sure, will do. Good luck Geoff, good for you to tackle it yourself.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55, Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 TB, FMS 19 lb fuel injectors, Have, but not installed:Brass cap & rotor, JBA 9mm cables, Borla tip, IAT adjuster,Boyd Coddington Smoot
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Jon
Dodge Dakota
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5/07/2002
10:19:56
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If there is a leak you will here the exhaust leaking out there, also if you put your hand near it you will feel the exhaust if it is leaking. careful, it gets hot!
-Jon
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moparjoe20
Dodge Dakota
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5/07/2002
11:00:25
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On headers with ball type collectors I've always used a little Ultra Copper RTV on the flange. The problem is that sometimes the aftermafrket headers and factory Y pipe don't have the flanges made exactly the same way and you will have a small leak. I decided to skip the RTV once when I was putting headers on a '96 Formula and had to tear it back apart on a Friday afternoon before the customer could pick it up.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
5/07/2002
12:29:26
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i also used the copper RTV on the collector on my JBA's. it can only help. trust me, you dont want to take them off because you forgot a step
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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Lesley
GenIII
5/07/2002
12:51:10
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Geoff, sorry, these guys are right, and I was wrong. My mechanic does use it on the bottom.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55, Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 TB, FMS 19 lb fuel injectors, Have, but not installed:Brass cap & rotor, JBA 9mm cables, Borla tip, IAT adjuster,Boyd Coddington Smoot
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Geoff
GenIII
5/07/2002
12:54:15
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cool did he say which kind/brand is best?
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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YA
Dodge Dakota
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5/08/2002
04:04:18
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I used the ultra copper RTV at the slip fit of the crossover tube for my Mopar Performance header install.
I think it's just a little added insurance and for $5 why not.
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Neil
Dodge Dakota
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5/09/2002
06:50:39
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I've used Ultra Copper also although not at the collector. I've smeared a thin bead on the header gasket. Yes do replace the gasket that comes with the JBAs with a good one. Even so I stll have used the scilicone as insurance of a good seal.
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quikbear
Dodge Dakota
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5/21/2002
19:40:28
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Geoff, Do not put any sealant where the headers mate to the head. Use the gaskets it came with and nothing else. Where the collector mates to the exhaust pipe use the copper sealant. The copper sealant may not be necessary but I put it on anyway so I wouldn't have to take it apart again. The copper sealant was one of those"just in case" type deals.
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Geoff
GenIII
5/21/2002
19:42:25
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Yeah thats what i did not problems or leaks yet
thanks
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, JBA Headers
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Shane
Dodge Dakota
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10/28/2011
01:19:26
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I ve been throwing all gaskets in the trash can and only
running rtv silicon for the past 15 year on blower and turbo
motors and never have blow outs. Put a 1/8 in bead around
all the header flanges and tighten the bolts finger tight. Come
back in a few hours and torque them down. Your headers will
never leak again even after 1000 miles of baja. Enjoy
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