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bjlindsey
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5/03/2002
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How come my 5.9L 4x4 won't quite keep up w/ this rice burner...I mean I got 33s and 4wd and he still barely beat me....wait'll I dig out the ol' beater '88 Chebby w/ the TPI motor.....I'll show him!!!!
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R_U_FST2
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5/03/2002
06:51:46
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Mitsu 3.0L V6, can be easily modded with a twin-turbo. That engine is very fast, and that car is probably less than half your weight.
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Demon-Xanth
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5/03/2002
10:24:57
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Some of the 3000GTs DID have twin turbo+AWD.
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handi2
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5/03/2002
10:25:45
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Those cars are fast stock.
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SS_Dakota
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5/03/2002
11:15:52
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Yes, very fast... I had a Dodge Stealth R/T NON TURBO and I raced an LT1 Camaro and was neck and neck... and I had done nothing to the engine.
Yes, they are very fast... and too expensive to work on... don't get one unless your rich.
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5/03/2002
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I've heard that twin turbo 3000GT's are junk,
massive problems with the turbo system, like
one seems to stop working, or something like
that.
Just twin turbo your 5.9 L ; ) the guy will sh!t
himself when he sees those 33" tires kickin
rubber all over his hood.
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jasonk
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5/03/2002
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I've driven and worked on a friend of mine's 3000gt vr4 (model with twin-turbo, AWD, AWS). A few comments
Stock they use 9b turbos tuned to 9 lbs of boost each. The engine produces approx. 300 hp. In 97 or 94 I forget which they upped that to 11 lbs and the engine started making 320 hp.
These cars ARE a pita to work on. As an example to change the plugs you have to take the intake plenum off the car (wheeeeee).
Oh yeah, as far as the turbos his just failed and that was after 120k miles on them, which is pretty damn impressive.
However these cars are incredibly freaking fast stock and I've seen people upgrade the turbos and supporting system running 20 lbs of boost on the street. The highest so far was a guy using 18g turbos and propane inject to run 30 lbs of boost. A few of these cars dip into the 9's and 10's.
Now the base and sl models sucked ass, fwd with 200 hp. The auto's were dogs and the manuals weren't much better. That's probably what you saw since total production of the vr4 was only about 10000 and they cost near 50k brand new.
Anyways, while it's fine to knock the honda's and such, the 3000gt was one of the few jap cars to be able to bring it. Well, at least the vr4 was lol.
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bjlindsey
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5/03/2002
13:28:59
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What do turbos do to fuel mileage....assuming you can stay out of the gas pedal???
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handi2
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5/03/2002
22:54:20
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My last turbo car was a Nissan 280ZX in 85. I don't think turbo's affect mileage that much.
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5/04/2002
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my girlfriends mom drives an 01 turbo diesel
jetta...something like 45 miles to the gallon ; )
I heard they make 75hp, but a sh!t load of
torque. it moves pretty well.
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5pnt9ltrluv
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5/04/2002
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D- wife drives a 99 Golf TDI....They pump out a whopping 90hp.....It does have some good torque though...
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sandman
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5/04/2002
10:42:35
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Ya those 3000GT's are hot cars. Modified T3/T4 Hybrds are a great upgrade for these cars. If you add a modified pcm, cold air kit and cat back exhaust these few mods can put them into 400HP range rather easily. Turbos can be just as reliable as non-turbo vechiles. If the owner runs a good synthetic oil and lets his engine idle for a few minutes before shut down then they will never notice a problem baring seal failure. If the car was just raced or driven very hard it can take up to 10 minutes to let the cars turbo parts coldown.
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toxic13
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5/04/2002
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T3/T4 hybrids on a 6g72TT? Never seen that one done. The stock manifolds are setup to run TD04 turbine housings which are mated to the stock 9b mitsubishi compressor wheels in the TD04 housing. Most of the upgraded turbos available for those cars are T4/T5 or larger hybrids with only a few T5 turbine housings available which is because the manifolds need to be replaced for use with the larger turbine housing (expensive!).
As for the modified PCM's, well, they suck for those cars. They're pretty much useless and there's basically no custom flashings done for them. The stock PCM and ECU actually have no real problems compensating for modifications done and almost all of your aftermarket controllers (ARC 2, SAFC's etc.) interact quite well with them.
The easiest way to reach 400 hp in those cars is MBC(~$65) set at 14.5psi, Downpipe/testpipe/catback, Intake and you're looking at close to 400hp.
-Marc
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bjlindsey
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5/04/2002
13:35:50
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What the heck did I start??? 
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sepukku
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9/20/2002
16:32:14
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i have a 93 vr4. its not bad, not the fastest thing on the planet, but not by any means bad. the milage, if you drive it pretty steady is about 20mpg city. 94 is when they upped the stock boost to 11psi. and dont feel too bad. at least you didnt get beat by a civic.
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snacthscratch
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9/20/2002
16:37:48
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if ya got an itchy pu$$y then scratch it already
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steve-on-nos
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9/20/2002
18:46:33
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hey bjlindsey,
dang,that a bichin nice 4x4!
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bjlindsey
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9/22/2002
05:09:50
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Thanks Steve....'Preciate it. Unfortunately, my wife has bought me a boat that I must spend all my time and energy on....Oh Darn!!!
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sandman
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9/22/2002
11:36:36
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Well one of two things is going on. 1) The guy used just enough power to beat you as you posed no real threat to him!!! 2) His car is worn out and needs to be rebuilt. That car can have 420 Hp by swaping out his factory turbo's for T3/T4 Hybrds and a PCM swap. I would have thought that you old Dodge boys would love this car. It has pushrods and hydralic lifters. It was the best car that DC never built. They realy need to have something like it again. DC needs a car that is cheaper then a viper and has good performance. It would also help if it had a smaller high reving engine and forced induction so it can pass the EPA tests and still give good gas milliage for C.A.F.E. corperate numbers. I am thinking something the size of a Neon with either a Turbo charged 3.7 V6 or a normally aspirated 4.7 or if cheap is realy the key a 3Liter V4 based on the Hemi with a turbo. It would be awesome if it was a mid engine two seater in the $16,000 to $19,000 price range.
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dweishaar
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9/22/2002
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I just wanted to throw something out there...Don't forget that the 3000GT and the DODGE Stealth, were built hand in hand as a joint project with Mitsu. Not a common thing for the early eighties and ninties. My D50 had a mitsu engine in it. SOOOOOOO.....the 3000GT IS the car that Dodge Built. A stock 1994+ Stealth R/T had the twin turbo setup and put out an impressive 320hp (ish). but amazingly enough, you can get one for $9,000. My next burner project will be this car.
http://www.server4u.com/mitsu/3000gt.htm
go ahead an check out this site. There was a better one, I'll try and find it too.
thanks for the ear to chew
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TTV6
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9/22/2002
20:18:51
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Hahaha, Stealths had pushrods. You're a funny guy.
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dweishaar
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9/22/2002
21:24:53
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prove us wrong.
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9/22/2002
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Ha mitsu. builts our engines 3.9, 5.2, 5.9. and alot of the smaller car engines to.
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sandman
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9/22/2002
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Ya at $9000 that is a steal. I alway liked those cars. I would love to have one. I did not know that Dodge actualy built some her in the USA. I figured Mitsu just rebadged some for Dodge. My mom had a 91 Plymoths Laser and that was one Bad A$$ car for what it was. I turned out alot of cars with it. i used to road race it against alot of cars. have learned to drive on the Auto Bahn I knew I could beat a vechile with more power with better handeling. It was easy to modify and I could carry alot of speed through corners. I would try to pick raods with alot of curves and transitions. I once took an exit ramp marked 25 MPH and it was a reduceing radis curve that made over a 400 degree turn to put you back on the next road while desending at 120MPH with three people in the car. The Mustang had to slow down alot to take that ramp and that is how I beat him. I also turned out alot of Turbo Ford Probes. I had to buy a tire for thaqt car though. My cost through supplier for just the rubber was $180.00. 12 years later when she sold that car it was not burning any oil and ran like a top. I once took a friend for a drive in it and I was cresting the top of a hill at 135 and I stayed on the gas down that hill and we were still accelerating when I hoped of the gas. He was hooked from that day on he was a speed freak! I do not drive that way anymore and realy count my self as lucky that I never killed anyone but boy are fast car and fast women ever fun when your young!!!!
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truckssuck
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9/23/2002
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um... a few of you guys are clueless... the 3000gt was built by mitsu... whoever said dodge built it is a moron. pop the hood... what does the damn engine say? mitsu... what does the engine on a dodge stealth say? MITSU. mitsu built the stealth. and 3000gt's have pushrods? lay off the crack. i have a base, ill run any of your damn trucks. ill tear your pos up too. and this "ricer" why is he a ricer? what body mods were done to make him a ricer? fart pipes? neons? other gay ass stickers? if so, then you should have punched him in the face. you have a truck... what the hell are you doing racing cars anyways... if you tried to race me, i wouldnt waste my 93 octane... that stuff is expensive. oh, and the tt cars will rape your ass. you probably raced a SOHC, and still got the crap whipped out of you.
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dweishaar
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9/23/2002
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i love how people post and don't back up what they say. I'd like some referances please. the only thing different between the stealth and the 3000GT is the body work. Chasis, suspension, drivetrain, braking systems...ALL THE SAME
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dweishaar
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9/23/2002
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to reinforce my last statement
http://www.gate.net/~dhaupert/3000faq.html
happy reading.
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9/23/2002
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Okay guys, let's all calm down. Now, for the facts. Daimler-Chrysler in fact owns a 38% share of mitsubishi motors. So this means they have a controlling interest in Mitsu. Now, all 3000GT's and Stealths were built by Mitsubishi in Nagoya, Japan, and shipped here. They share identical frames, engines, drivetrains, accessories, interiors, etc, with the exception of body panels. Dodge wanted this so they could reap the benefits of cross-brand sales, meaning the consumers who buy only american could buy an "american" Dodge, and the consumers who only buy imports could buy a Mitsubishi. So basically, Stealths were built by Mitsu for Dodge, and are really imports in every sense of the word.
Now, the twin-turbo 3/S (3000GT/Stealth) cars are definately something most trucks would have a vey hard time dealing with. 320 HP DOHC (no pushrods) v6, with AWD, means mid-13's stock with no wheelspin. And they take well to mods. Fastest time with stock turbos was high-11's. And "Sandman", T3/T4 turbos will not fit without custom manifolds and a lot of custom work. Stock manifolds use td04 housings, which limits the upgradeability, but a few people have recently developed adaptor plates and such for td05 housings, so the common DSM turbos will mate up (for a lot less money, too). And the stock ECU's are rarely "swapped", because they can handle most upgrades, and electronic fuel and boost controllers do those jobs just fine. A few do upgrade to an ARC-2 management system, or the new AEM EMS system, which looks to be a miracle product. So here's the lesson for the day, don't believe everything you hear from friends or on honda websites. The 3/S is a very capable car.
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sandman
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9/23/2002
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Thanks for the correction!That engine did use hydralic valve lash adjuster right? I thought that they used a hydralic lash adjuster and a short 1-2 inch push rod. That was what I was calling a lifter and push rod. I was trying to inject some humor as well. Good thing I am a Toyota Tuner. You have to pay me alot of money to go near anything with Honda on the side.While I do not claim to be an expert on these vechiles buy a long shot, I sold a set of T3/T4 turbo's to a guy about two years ago for his 3000GT. Different exhaust manifolds or adapters are fairly common in the HP/Turbo game and are rather cheap all things considered. People that race Honda's while they are realy good people(no better, no worse) they are a different group then Toyota owners!
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LVA3KGT
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9/26/2002
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You guys crack me up. I'm not flaming. I own an auto 98 Ram 4X4 1500 w/ the 5.9 AND a manual 97 3000GT SL (DOHC NA)...and I really can't afford either right now... In any race BUT up the muddy side of a mountian, the 3000 wins. Both of these are stock for now (the car is in the shop as I am writing this), and maybe the truck being an auto makes a bit of a difference. I can't speak for other models of the car or the truck, but b/t the two that are parked in my driveway; GT all the way- every day of the week (twice on Tuesdays) :-)
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LVA3KGT
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BTW, keep up the fight against the rice. We are doing our best over on www.3si.org
There is a lot of (for the most part good) info there. Come share in the wealth on information.
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