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Wayne
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3/18/2002
21:01:51
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Very excited!! My new 360 just came in, and my M1 will be here Wed.
Blew up my 318 a few weeks ago, and the new 360 is going in this Thursday.
Can't wait to feel the extra torque.
As far as I know, the only differences are the Torque converter, Harmonic Balancer, and PCM.
Anything different that you guys know about that I may be missing. I want it to go as smoothly as possible.
Also, any idea of HP and torque with the following mods: Mopar perf. PCM, M1 intake,24# Matched injectors, shortie headers, true duals(no cats), fastman TB(50MM), dual cold air w/ K&N, Accel ign, 3932's, Taylor wires, IAT Adjustor, 180 Deg thermostat, and the whistling, no power adding piece-o sh%t Helix power spacer(paid for, so it's going back on).
Thanks for the help
Wayne
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SLEEPER318
Dodge Dakota
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3/18/2002
21:39:52
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Is this the great wayne from Louisiana? if it is what happen to your 318? are you wanting to sell it?
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Wayne Spiler
Dodge Dakota
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3/18/2002
21:48:23
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Georgia, and you definately do not want this engine. Would have to be completely rebuilt, from the heads to the crank. #2 rod broke in half and sent the piston into the valves. Plus, the core charge is $450.
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QuickRacing
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3/18/2002
21:49:13
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Sorry to ask, but what is a M1? I understand it's an intake but what are the perks of it? I just got my 360 in also, and just like you I'm trying to find work the bugs out for a smooth install... thanks for the help...
Wish I could help you with your question, but I'm going from 6 to 8... beleive me I have "alot" more work to do than you!! Is yours a genII or III? Mines II... Thanks again
QuickRacing
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Wayne
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3/18/2002
21:53:58
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Check out this web site. It will give you a full understanding. The M1 is the intake manifold that your TB fits on. This is a High performance 2BBL intake. I have heard from 25 to 40 HP.
http://www.krcperformance.com/java/krc_performance_2bbl.htm
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SLEEPER318
Dodge Dakota
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3/18/2002
22:24:03
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Well, I'm looking for a 318 magnum block that I can bore .030 over. I'm trying to build a fresh motor for my truck. A stroker with forged crank, rods, and piston. low compression for my T-trim. The stock bottom end is holding up so far. but I have no clue for how long.
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4wDakota
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3/19/2002
10:44:06
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Hey Sleeper318, I'm here in Lafayette. The best advice I can give is to check the bone yards. A NEW short block is only like 1200-1400 so If you just need the block w/o the crank and piston you can probably get one for under $750. I know, a lot to spend, but then you wouldn't have to pay for machining and magnafluxing and all.
Hold onto my email address and give me a shout when you want to tear into it. I'll gladly drive your way to turn some wrenches on a fellow 318!
Corey
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
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Wayne
Dodge Dakota
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3/19/2002
18:26:18
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If your going to stroke a 318, why not just go with a 360. A 360 is just a bored 318 that is stroked.
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SLEEPER318
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3/19/2002
18:57:13
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everyone has these 408's I want to have a 390 stroker. Now how many of those have you seen?
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kota on 20s
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3/19/2002
19:25:23
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the 318 would be a better engine for racing. because of its shorter stroke it rev's faster, and potentally higher. too bad MP didnt make a 340 magnum, with a bigger bore than a 360, and the stroke of the 318 it truely one of the bad a$$ engine
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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Wayne
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3/19/2002
19:42:19
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Good point, I have noticed that on desktop dyno that the 318 when built for performance out performs the 360 when it comes to horsepower, but I have a Ram and the torque is what I need with this 5000 pound beast to get it rolling.
Never had a mopar stoker, But I had a Ford 1979 F100 that I put a 351W in and had it stroked to a 398. It was a mean SOB and I do miss the power. It had an AOD and would burn 1st as long as you wanted without powerbreaking, and burn 2nd about 30 ft.
Good luck, and I hope IT SMOKES!!!
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BigBirdR/T
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3/19/2002
21:16:13
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I agree. Seems alot of guys are going with the 408. The 318/340 blocks could be "sleepers"
How about a 386? Will post how it turns out.
Firing the beast this weekend.
Ron
'99 R/T CC
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kota on 20s
GenIII
3/19/2002
22:25:44
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is this the real big bird? the yellow one from texas?
if so, are you firing up a SC's 408 with NOS?
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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BigBirdR/T
Dodge Dakota
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3/20/2002
21:11:07
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Yes, this is what Lynda and I call "BigBird" and we are from Houston. I never want to follow the crowd so....... gonna try a 386, S/Ced and hope we won't need the NOS. We started out with a
318/340 R3 block. "IF" we need NOS the R3 4 blt. mains should carry about a 300 shot without problems.
Ron
'99 Yellow R/T CC
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kota on 20s
GenIII
3/20/2002
23:31:55
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what are you expecting to run? how much boost? i hear scott q, is stroking his SC'd beast to 408. looks like you have some compitition ;-) i guess texas has no smog laws? this is the only reason i HATE cali
it must be nice
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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R Middleton
Dodge Dakota
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3/21/2002
00:06:03
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Mopar Performance is selling a repro/improved 340 block it is a new casting and can apearently be bored out to 4.1" safely. Put the 318 stroke crank in that and then the new Magnum R/T "Big valve" heads add an EFI M1.... voila! Modern high winding 340 for your dak. I wish I had the dough this is what I'd try building.
Middy.
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litlpunisher
GenIII
3/21/2002
11:18:15
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340 magnum? I got one. My ported r/t 2.02 heads should be in any time and the rest is waitng on the engine dyno.
98 Dakota
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R Middleton
Dodge Dakota
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3/21/2002
14:10:23
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details! details! Maybe in a new post though I'd love to know the whole story!
Big Bore Small stroke COOL.
Middy.
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R Middleton
Dodge Dakota
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3/21/2002
14:10:33
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details! details! Maybe in a new post though I'd love to know the whole story!
Big Bore Small stroke COOL.
Middy.
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