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jonathan
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2/21/2002
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Question for you guys. I've got a 99 R/T. As of now I still have the stock exhaust on it. I want to go dual, but I want to know from you guys from your own experience... which is better. Straight back, meaning headers, 2 high flow cats, 2 muff's out the back.... or H-pipe for equalization? Not sure which to do, and money for the extra cat isnt really a problem. I'd really appreciate any input or suggestions.
jonathan
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Spaz
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2/21/2002
10:40:12
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I beleive that the H-pipe really need to be installed. It will improve the performance by helping scavange the exhaust gas and eliminate resonnance. And since money is'nt a problem, did you ever heard of X-style crossover pipes, they deal more efficiently with exhaust pulses.
Hope this helps!
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Dr0p0ff
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2/21/2002
10:40:26
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http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/4381.html
that post should answer your question about wanting true duals, unless you're just doing it to say you have it. <~~ which is cool, i just about made plans to do the same.
Sgt G
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jonathan
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2/21/2002
16:56:24
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what did you finally decide to do then Sgt G ? I understood what the guy said under that post... but what size would be sufficient or should I say... most efficient size? The main reason in my mind that I wanted true duals... is that logically in my mind, I think more room for airflow out would have been best... I guess not? What did you gather from it if you dont mind sharing )
jonathan
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Dr0p0ff
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2/22/2002
11:57:12
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Well first I have a 4.7.. so i need smaller pipes than you to keep my low end torque because i haven't SC or turboed. I need that smaller diameter to keep a longer column of air moving at a faster momentum so it pulls the air out. I'm getting JBA's, ditching the cat, (using an offroad pipe when i go to race that is) going with the 2 1/2 MBRP exaust with dual 2 1/4 outs. I'll be flowing just fine with that until i do my forced induction setup. I've got the free flowing intake (and the heads are comin off soon to go to KRC) to go with the exhaust. I hope that post helps you some. And you're at Camp Lejune right? rank? unit? (not that i'd call you sir in here if you were an officer.. heh) if you really want the dual setup.. go with a smaller diameter, and definitely use the H or X pipe to calm down the banks of you 8 fighting each other. take it easy
Sgt G
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juniork
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2/22/2002
12:22:36
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Go with an X-pipe. Car Craft proved that it made more TQ & HP than the h-pipe.
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Dr0p0ff
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2/22/2002
13:03:35
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just to clarify.. i didn't mean go with smaller pipes than me.. i meant to go with smaller than you would use on a single pipe setup for your truck. the R/T bubbas will know better than me as to the best diameter for you.
Sgt G.
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jonathan
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2/22/2002
16:45:28
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Did a little math, and talked to my genius uncle. He's saying 3 should be perfect. Low end would run best at 2 1/2 or 2 3/4 and that High end would like 3 1/4 or 3 1/2.... so I'm just gonna do 3" methinks. Gonna check with this guy down the road first, and see what he says. Yeah.. Camp Lejeune... Electronics Maintenance Company, Maint Bn, 2nd FSSG.. and I'm just a boot Sergeant. Yup.. just a POG. Thanks for your help guys.
jonathan...
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Hersbird
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2/22/2002
17:20:29
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Dual 3's are huge, that car craft article did run dual 3's but only after the x-pipe, it was dual 2.5's before. That was a race only mustang wanting max RPM and HP (I think it was 335 RWHP). I guess it did work for them and it was a smaller motor, but I would think dual 2.5's are plenty.
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Crusty
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2/22/2002
18:26:02
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Definetly put in some form of crossover. Without the equalization there are exhaust pulses that cannot be equalized. Basically is evens out the scavenging of exhaust.
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xplikt
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2/22/2002
18:43:50
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I would love to go with an x pipe, you think there is any chance MBRP would sell me just another in/out muffler?? I got one already...
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Dr0p0ff
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2/22/2002
19:40:44
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hey Jon.. what's your MOS? I'm a 2844. I was a 2811 at ELMACO 3rd FSSG before I came here to 9th Comm. Fellow POG's and their daks!! Boot.. heh.. me too. In Oct I got my good cookie on a friday and picked up Sgt the following Monday!
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jonathan
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2/22/2002
21:05:15
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lol... woot, another boot. Yeah, I got promoted back in October like all other Corporals with TIG and a pulse... I'm at 2846 (radio) and currently I run the Micro Min section... not too bad. Oh hell, I was in Okinawa at ELMACO Hansen from July 99 until July 2001... yeah .. 2 year tour... sucked butt. Talk at you later...
jonathan
1999 Dodge Dakota R/T CC
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Dr0p0ff
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2/23/2002
11:38:58
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I was at ELMACO from July 99-July 00!! what's your last name?
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Dr0p0ff
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2/23/2002
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I was at ELMACO from July 99-July 00!! what's your last name?
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jonathan
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2/23/2002
13:04:21
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Oetken, Jonathan.... now you got me thinkin who you are... heh
jonathan
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Dr0p0ff
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2/23/2002
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was LCpl Gajentan at the time. (october's screw up helped me out too) i was on at ELMACO Xtreme from august til when i left in july. so i probably didn't see u much cause i was on camp schwab. gravit is at my unit too. i dunno if you knew sgt greig or cpl hopkins.. they live right down the road from my old apartment in vista. there's a couple more people i knew from elmaco in cali. some i see at elmaco there at pendleton.
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jonathan
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2/23/2002
18:20:05
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I recall your name... speaking of Xtreme... Babcock is somewhere around here.. I saw him a few times. I remember greig and hopkins... lol.. yes.. and gravit. Yeah, people would show up and leave and I wouldnt even see them once being secluded up at Hansen... kinda miss it and at the same time I dont. Anyway... talk to you later.
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Dr0p0ff
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2/23/2002
22:27:16
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i miss schwab big time... only 7 of us.. nobody f'king with us... d@mn you for mentioning that awful name. Babcock was my roommate for awhile there.. he was the dirtiet, wouldn't wash his @ss, addicted to everquest, couldn't clean, wouldn't go anywhere, lazy... gggrrrr. i hated that guy. wiltman stopped my arm from hitting the #$%^ twice. its a good thing wiltman was a big guy.. i wanted to throw that kid out the 4th deck window. jeez. bad memories.. but just him. i talked to (now) LtCol Mez a few months ago. he was rubbing it in that he was going to the karama islands to go scuba diving that weekend.. heh. wrong. take it easy
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jonathan
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2/23/2002
23:16:05
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lol.. I was an eq addict too... didnt have anything else to do but work, scuba dive, and play everquest.... those were the days. Now it's work, school, and the race track. Take care...
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majorminor21
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2/24/2002
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i have a 94 v6 with jba header to stock cat to 2.5 in dual 2 1/4 out 50 series flowmaster and whenever i punch the gas and release it i here this really loud popping sound the mechanics say its not a back fire and when i called the dealer they said i dont have enough back pressure. should i go back to a single pipe set up or is there a way to keep the dual? what if down the road i add a supercharger should i leave what i have.
thanks James
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xplikt
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2/24/2002
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Ahahaha, old junkies from Evercrack are EVERYWHERE!
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jonathan
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2/24/2002
21:53:39
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lol... yes... yes they are
jonathan
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