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TD
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12/13/2001
21:02:14

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just bought 00/cc/rt, 3923's and cold air been done so far.santa just pre-approved me for some headers.was wanting to get some feedback from you guys on which type to go with. which type can i bolt on now,then do rest later,then should i have duals run all way out or go w/good cat back?(in process of gettin 180 tstat and mopar h.p. ecm)
thanks in advance...TD



Aaro
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12/13/2001
21:26:50

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I have a set of JBA headers , they work well for the street and are well made.You might want to install a ported TB first,it has to inhale before it can exhale.



TD
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12/13/2001
22:37:52

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do the JBA's bolt up to Y. what is the recommend tb and size. did you go with one yet, what did it do to mpg ?? oo/cc/rt 3923/homemade cold air.



Dakaty
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12/14/2001
19:51:12

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I got me some of dem Gipson stainles headurs. Theys reel purdy an seems to be heping the get go. Sum say dat Gipson an JBA are maid buy the same cumpknee.

The deelership wanted to put em on so bad, I gave em bout $300 to do it.

I hope that works on yer end.

Beyul







Lesley
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12/14/2001
23:00:23

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I have the JBA stainless shorties, and like em a lot. They hooked right up to the stock Y pipe.Since the rest of the exhaust system is stainless I was in no hurry to replace it other than to get a better muffler cut in, but I got a great deal on the Borla cat-back. I would a agree with the advice to do a TB upgrade too - intake and output upgrades should balance out.

97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
Awaiting Installation: Borla catback, V8 R/T TB

TD
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12/14/2001
23:31:03

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ordered hayes stage II tb and mopar pcm today.still doing homework on headers, leanin towards JBA. thanks for all the help ...



Wayne
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12/15/2001
02:50:39

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I have Kenne Bell headers. They come with the Y pipe which I would advise anyone to change. The aftermarket Y pipes are worth more in h.p. than the headers in some cases. The pipe is bigger and the Y part is shaped better for better flow. They are coated with a nickel coating and it has held up well for almost 3 years now. Also, pay attention to the flange thickness. Thin header flanges tend to have more problems with leaks because they warp easier. Kenne Bells are longer than regular "shortie" headers. They are not equal length but have a splitter in the collectors to create the equal length effect.



TD
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12/15/2001
12:51:08

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thanks wayne,will look into them.



Troy
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12/15/2001
14:06:09

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I agree with Wayne!! I have the KB headers on a 2000 QC 4x4 with a 5.9. They look great, are fairly easy to install, and helped the power considerably. Really helped the low-end in my truck. I also agree with using the bigger y-pipe. It does little good to get the exhaust gases through the headers quickly, and then try to push then through the factory (smaller) y-pipe. It is kinda' defeating the purpose of the headers. The KB's are guaranteed not to rust or corrode. I replaced the bolts that came with mine, with Stage 8 locking fasteners, and I have had no problems at all with the headers. These bolts stay tight, and eliminate the need for periodic re-tightening.

2000 QC 4x4 5.9L 3.92LS, every factory option
equal-length headers and larger y-pipe
Magnaflow single in/ dual out
Autolite 3923's, indexed
Kenne Bell (Taylor) wires
180 stat
Redline Water Wetter
S-bolt
Homemade 4" cold-air induction
K&N air filter
Mobil 1 and Purolator
Map sensor mod
adjusted TPS from .568 to .755



TD
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12/16/2001
22:53:52

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while I was inspecting the job of the tb swap,noticed the ol' oil in the bottom of intake.looks like the intake is coming off once again..(dealer has done it twice,for r.intake, not sendin it in any more!) while im there going to port match intake, do tb swap, tps adj, 180 tstat and instal the m.p. ecm. then I think my next step should be to get rid of that damn fan and go electric. then go for some headers..by the way, thanks for putin up with the newbie.. spent some time on the boards , once I got the hang of the search feature I realized you guys had already answered alot of my questions. thanks for all your time...TD



Wayne
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12/17/2001
01:36:17

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Check out www.fast4x4.net for a method to fix that pan so it won't leak again.



bernd
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12/17/2001
09:41:09

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Dakaty: Nope...JBA used to build them for Gibson, but not anymore.


1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph

Lesley
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12/17/2001
10:30:10

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Nice job translating Bernd.
I'm finally going to put the TB & Borla on this week - Happy Birthday to me!!!!!!

97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
Awaiting Installation: Borla catback, V8 R/T TB

Rascal
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12/17/2001
11:01:34

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Happy Birthday Lesley!



todd
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12/17/2001
21:20:21

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keep it mopar



D
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12/17/2001
21:55:05

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are mopar headers expensive for an 01 4.7, or
are they not available yet?

whats the performance diff? (JBA and Mopar)



Skeletor
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12/18/2001
15:13:23

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What is the WEB site for Kenne Bell Headers?



kotaon 20s
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12/18/2001
18:00:20

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i just got my headers today and will install them on fri. i always thought there was a gasket between the colector and the y-pipe. is there not one? because my kit didnt come with it. if so what is a good gasket?

and how often should i tighten the header bolts?

Eric



Wayne
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12/21/2001
11:09:29

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Lesley - Happy belated birthday. How old are you? I know. I'm not supposed to ask. So sue me. :-)
Skeltor - Don't have it handy but I found it originally by doing a search on Yahoo. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll dig it up again.



Lesley
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12/21/2001
11:43:12

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Hey Wayne. Older than 30 :)

Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla catback, V8 R/T TB,
Coming: FMS fuel injectors

TD
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12/21/2001
15:51:27

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happy belated b-day Lesley ! been out of town last 4 days, how did the tb and borla installs go ? just received mopar pcm, hey guys, can i install this thing at home then take it to my wonderful dodge dealer to have the vin and mileage programmed or will it not run until until its programed? still waitin on tb. of course now that i have some goodies for the r/t it's supposed to snow here this weekend.....Sucks....



Lesley
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12/21/2001
18:09:56

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Thanks TD. The Borla is awesome! Sounds like it means business, but not obnoxious or too loud. Cab noise is minimal. A friend (who does Daytona pit crew work) helped with the TB, I learned a lot. There was quite a change in response, and when I held the two TBs side by side I could really see the difference in bore size. My dak accelerates much more smoothly now without hunting or sticking on a gear, and sounds & feels real good doing it! Man that Borla is a beautiful thing, too bad it's hidden under the truck.

Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla catback, V8 R/T TB,
Coming: FMS fuel injectors

Wayne
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12/22/2001
08:50:44

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TD - just put it in and drive it. It will run fine but you will get a code. When you get it programmed, they will reset the code. Drove mine for 2 days before taking it in with no problems - just a code light on dash.



TD
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12/22/2001
10:47:42

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thanks Wayne, I wont have time to do it this weekend, do to holiday prep @ home.(inlaws coming) as I type, my tb arrived. CANT wait!!!also in the middle of a engine job on a intrepid,so I'll have to finish that up first,then pull the r/t out of its winter hibernation and do mods. to much work, not enough play time!!! everybody be safe this weekend,MERRY CHRISTMAS to ALL..... TD



Wayne
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12/22/2001
13:18:36

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10-4. Merry Christmas to you also.



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