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Jcr7079
Dodge Dakota
11/25/2001
17:06:02
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 Subject: Magnuson-Moss warranty Act
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Hey guys,
As a dakota owner and lover with many mods,
I would like to inform those of you have come
to believe in this Magnuson-Moss Act. Well, as
a soon to be lawyer i can tell you that the act is
not exactly a law. In fact, if you go to the
congressional record it will tell you that it never
actually became law. SEMA and other
corporations have pumped it up because
many provisions of the law have been adopted
into other bills, in a sort of tow rope
fashion(they had no real impact on the bill that
they were attached). The laws are few and far
between that will protect your truck if you have
mods on it, even if those mods did not have a
DIRECT effect on the failure you experienced. I
know this is bad news, but there is a way out
and that is kiss your dealers' A$$ if you have a
failure on a modded engine, they just might be
nice to you.
Josh
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bernd
*GenIII*
11/27/2001
00:30:47
|  RE: Magnuson-Moss warranty Act
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You'd be surprised on the federal laws that protect the consumer from having their warranty voided due to dealer "ignornance".
If a dealer really wants to put up a fight, you can contact SEMA and they'll help you get in contact with the FTC to "resolve" the dealers problem. (We did it with two vehicles now...nooooooo more problems from the dealers.) ;)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.93 @ 93.26mph
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graphiteRT
R/T
11/27/2001
01:08:39
| RE: Magnuson-Moss warranty Act
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Josh, what exactly is a "mod"?
If I take my truck down to the local quickie oil change and have them install say a Quaker State filter(please don't do this yourselves), have I "modded" my truck, since it no longer has a Mopar filter and most certainly the Q.S filter isn't the same spec as the Mopar?
If when my POS RSA Goodyears wear out, I decide to replace with a different brand to improve both dry and wet traction, haven't I "modded" my truck?
So with your interpretation of the law, the dealer could basically tell me to take a flyin' leap for either part?.......NOT!!
You gettin' the picture as to why that is on the books? You want some hilarity, step on over to to Mopar Chat and read about the guy getting grief over a rear leaf spring squeak. They claim because he has installed a JET chip he's overstressed the rear springs and they won't help him. OK, so piling 2K lbs of crap in the back isn't any big deal, but that lowly JET chip with questionable performance offerings trashed his springs?? And the kicker is he's gotten service from the same dealer over the same issue before!
I personally will respectfully seek warranty assistance if and when I need it. But I won't do so if it's obvious that it is due to some mod I have made to my truck. BUT I WILL BE DAMNED if I'm going to kiss some arrogant and snotty service advisor's butt to gain service that I rightfully have coming to me.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, Hotchkis, Bilsteins, CF Euro tails, clear corners, chrome emblems, Speed Grill inserts, CF dash
Soon: MP headers, SpinTech dual exhaust, MSD and full ignition upgrades, M1 intake, 52mm TB, IP Stage II cold air w/K&N airhat, flush tonneau, rear spoiler
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Jcr7079
Dodge Dakota
11/27/2001
09:48:35
| RE: Magnuson-Moss warranty Act
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I guess my point is that the laws that are on
the books are not as sweeping as most think,
the example with the guy with the jet chip and
the shoddy leaf springs is a good example of
how dealers can get around servicing your
vehicle like they should under warranty. Also,
remember that the M-M Act is not exactly "on
the books" there are many laws that mimic it
that are on the books. I agree with bernd(like
always) that you can get a third party involved
to settle disputes and they usually will help
you out no problem. My aim in posting this
thread was to just make people aware that the
term "mod" is ambiguous just as Bob pointed
out and there fore it leaves alot to dealer
discretion with fulfilling their warranty
obligation when you have "modded" your
vehicle. The post was not meant to say that we
enjoy no protection, it was meant to say that
as more and more trucks and cars are
customized and such, people may find
themselves using Bernd's route to settle
dealer disputes long after they have used the
insufficient laws we have that leave many
loopholes for dealers to jump through. I just
hope the laws can be improved.
Josh
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