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Dodge Dakota
11/07/2001
20:23:55
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I seen one of these ugly lil buggers on the road the other day, when he saw me he sped away and hit a turn around, I run about 14.5, not too sure what they run, sometimes I hear high 14s, sometimes I hear lower, should I be scared, or sweep that ugly ass thing off the road
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
11/07/2001
23:21:13
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A friend of mine just bought one. I got to take a nice lil ride and I'll tell ya what, it's got a good oomph! to it. It was a Wagon one and I think it could take you. There is of course only one way to find out, but you might be surprised...and maybe a lil humbled in the end. I say, race him, who knows unless you try, eh?
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kota on 20s
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11/08/2001
00:01:34
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i am thinking of getting one of thoes. they run 14.1-14.5 stock, and with a $50 boost controller they can do 13.7-13.8's. they are verry easy to make fast.
Eric
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Todd W
Dodge Dakota
11/08/2001
01:03:04
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My parents have a Suburu Forrester... that little opposing 4 is a _lot_ of fun to drive. I was didn't love my truck so much, I would get one of those. The all-wheel-drive is killer.
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Cool daddy
Dodge Dakota
11/10/2001
19:30:20
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Car & Driver ran 0-60 in 5.4 seconds in a WRX this year. Most run low 14s, so, if you have a an average Dak 4.7 or R/T, it wouldn't be wise to race one unless you want to lose. if you have a fast Dak, I'd say go for it, because AWD or not, the driver may suck and you could take him out.
Speaking of WRX's, when I took my Dak to Capitol Raceway last night, a guy had one there for test and tune and ran a 15.5 while I was watching. The guy was a terrible driver, and just didn't really step into the pedal for some reason. I test drove the car when I was in CO a few weeks ago with 2 grown male passengers at 5500 ft sea-level, and yes, it is a fast little bastard! It's a detuned rally car man! Would love to have one, cause with a few minor mods, you could tear up new Vettes with its AWD. HMMMMMMMMMM, Dak or WRX????? hee heeee
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Dodge Dakota
11/10/2001
20:04:37
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Once my friend and I get some more miles on our vehicles we will try 02/RC/SLT+/4.7L/3.92/LSD against a Wagon WRX (that's all I know about what it is).
I dont really expect to win, but rather loose to a friend than some jackass that would taunt me on it.
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todd
Dodge Dakota
11/10/2001
22:24:09
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0to60 in 5.8
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JS
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
00:14:56
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A professional driver will pull off 5.4 run. The average driver depending on conditions will run between 5.9 and 6.5
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
00:32:34
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I had the priveledge of making a Subaru WRX owner feel bad this evening. It was from about a 30 mph roll..... I let him hit the throttle first but he never even had a chance.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/11/2001
03:15:18
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hmmm...turbo v8 VS turbo 4 banger. yea id go with the 8
watch out dunner, cobb tuning has a kit for 4-5k that turns the WRX into 12sec terrors. ;-)
hey dunner do you have a blow off valve, or waste gate?
Eric
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justin
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
09:42:34
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WRX's are pretty fast but theres no way you gonna beat a vette, no way youre gonna beat a stock vette. you ever seen vettes race on the street? you ever heard one rev out? the WRX might be fast but its gonna need to be in the speed shop for a while before might be beatin vettes. new vettes run 12.4 1/4 stock, have 405 horsepower, and go 0-60 in 4 seconds. so i dont think even a worked WRX is beatin a STOCK vette anytime soon.
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Knobbyman
GenIII
11/11/2001
11:11:16
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My roomate is about to buy one.. Today if the dealer is open tomorrow if it's not. Thing is he can't drive a stick and I can ;-) guess what.. he's getting a stick. So I have to drive it :-) this test drive ought to be fun. Oh and by the way w/ dual turbos and a boost control, exhaust, chip.. I'm betting that'd be a FAST light AWD car. Man I can't wait to take it mudding... Err I mean I can't wait till HE takes it to the track. :-)
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
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2000dak
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
11:31:05
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Whats all this about the WRX, if we're gonna talk about a rally car lets talk about a real one, The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (not the new gay lancer Mitsubishi brought over to take the 4 door mirage's place). Tommi Makinen and his Evo VI have claimed the last 4 World Rally Titles in a row. Whats funny is the Mitsubishi Evolution and the Impreza WRX are virtually brothers (being AWD 4 banger turbos) but the Evo is faster, meaner, and handles better. I don't mean to flame or anything, just taking out some of the frustation I have from waiting for Mitsu to bring the Evo to America.
George
2000 CC v6
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Cool Daddy
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
13:50:45
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Justin-
Yes, I've heard the new Vettes are brutal. I was referring to the ones right now that make 345hp, plus the LT1's. The reason I would prefer a modded WRX that ran high 12s to low 13s on the streets is simple- AWD is almost unbeatable in the hands of a good driver in stoplight drags. I love the latest Vette, but it can still be a handful to launch with all that torque and power going through the rear wheels. When I ran at the track the other night, a new one was beside me in the other lane and ran a 13.8 @ 101. He seemed to get off the line smartly, but had problems giving it too much gas. With a WRX, just rev that sucker to 4 grand, and when the light is green, let go and be sling-shotted off like a fighter jet off an aircraft carrier. All that traction is a dragracer's dream man! It's just that I've seen so many hot AWD cars down at the track that just tear up the competition because of this ability. I always wanted a GMC Syclone when they were available but couldn't afford one. Just my 2 cents........
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BH-R/T
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
15:10:06
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My next door neighbor(a cop) just got one,I went for a ride in it,then drove it,and saw him at the local track run a best 14.89@93mph and worst of 15.4@92mph,not bad at all being bone stock.But I wouldnt want one,it doesnt have a pentastar on it anywhere!
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/11/2001
16:56:45
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Justin, the ZO6 has 405 HP, the regular vett has 345. the WRX might have truble with the zo6 but i think it (with mods) could take a regular vett.
Knobbyman, it wouldnt be wise to twin turbo the WRX, because 4 cyl cars dont have enough exhaust pressure to spin two turbos, also i dont think there is enough room for another turbo. a big single turbo would be the way to go ;-)
BH-RT, everyone in my family are mopar people, i wish DC would do two things
1. build a affordable muscle car that would compete (kill) against the camaro and mustang
2. get into rally racing and build a car to compete against the subaru. and make it look good
2000dak, is the lancer availabe in the US? also i had a tommi makinen in grand trismo, but how much are the two compaired to the subaru? the tommi (from my knowledge) is a lot of money and there arent too many dealer ships, so where do you go for warrenty issues?
Eric
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
17:38:39
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I have heard rumor of Dodge getting into rally car within the next couple years when they redesign the Neon platform.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
19:22:20
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My brother has a stock WRX but it is an automatic. I bet it's a pretty even match up against my R/T. I have never seen a good report of what a automatic WRX will run. Over on I-club the big subie site some folks only get mid 15's with the automatic, but some people with a good powerbrake technique do better. Then those good drivers usually add mods and then would smoke a stock R/T. The other problem is we are at almost 4000 feet, and the turbo WRX will not lose as much power with altitude as my R/T will, so I may have a problem there. I better race him soon as there will probably be snow on the ground in a few weeks and then I'm screwed. I had more fun all summer long then he had, but for the next 4 months the R/T won't be much fun. If I lived somewhere in the south I wouldn't even consider a WRX (I'd get something more like a little pickup with a big motor) but then again I'm biased enough toward Dodge to buy their 3rd fastest vehicle (Viper and Prowler 1 and 2) even though it doesn't make much sense where i live (Montana), at least it's more practical then a Viper or Prowler but if I could afford them I would have done it regardless of how practical they are.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/11/2001
19:52:49
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i hope dodge dosent do what ford did. they made the focus a rally car by putting a turbo on it with AWD and a 6speed. totally differant than the factory car. thats why i like the subaru. everything the rally car has, the street car has, just detuned.
Eric
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
11/11/2001
22:03:32
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I still want an S4. Audis are the rally cars with some class ;)
Hey Hersberd, if you ever get a Viper; you're gunna have to come up and gimme a ride!
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joe
Dodge Dakota
11/13/2001
00:16:00
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I have beat one to 55mph and then i hit my brakes when a cop came in to site it was funny to see the look on the guys face at the next lite after a 4 door truck beat his new WRX
2000 dodge 4.7 auto 3.92 LSD airaid intake and spacer borla catback and a 70lb bag of sand over right tire
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Justin Howard
Dodge Dakota
11/14/2001
22:54:15
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what the hell do u have a 70Lb bag of sand over your right tire for?
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CHICAGO JOE
Dodge Dakota
11/14/2001
23:18:50
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HEY ERIC, AS FAR AS COMING OUT WITH A CAMARO/'STANG FIGHTER, THAT CONCEPT DODGE CHARGER THEY'VE BEEN TEASIN' US WITH WOULDN'T BE BAD, HUH? WHAT IS IT 4.7 300 HORSE? I'LL TAKE IT.
2000 4.7 RC 4X4
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
11/15/2001
00:00:04
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Winter's a comin' Justin, and for some, it's already here.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/15/2001
00:29:46
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last i heard the charger had the 5.7 hemi in it with something like 350 HP. i hope they make it
Eric
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
11/15/2001
13:45:01
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I've been a AWD fan for years and have owned two Subarus that were a blast to drive. Too bad the WRX doesn't have their 2.5 engine with Turbo.
I currently have a 2001 AWD DAC QC: 4.7/auto/3.92/LSD/T&H/Sport+
I've never seen track numbers with the above type options, correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think the above truck, though slightly heavier, would give better times -vs- another truck but without AWD, right? (and I'm talking stock)
Does anyone own a 4.7/AWD/3.92 QC and taken it to the track? What times did you get?
BTW, I love stop lights and just flooring it on green, even in the pouring rain, pure 100% traction, getting thrown back in the seat (Jet Chip II, 70MM TB, 4 inch custom Z-Tube, Flowmaster Dual 2 1/2 inch exhaust, 3923s, and Royal Purple 5w30 synthetic racing oil, obviously add to that enjoyment)
Thanks.
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fot80
Dodge Dakota
11/15/2001
15:02:29
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The wrx autos are crappy and much slower than the 5 speeds. The manuals on the other hand are superb cars compared to the fact that you roughly need 10 grand more to have any other import that can keep up with it. However, remember that the wrx is turbocharged. Almost all dakotas will kill it if supercharged, especially v8 2wd regular cabs with a 5 speed.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/15/2001
21:58:19
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the WRX is only a 2.0L with a turbo, i also wish it was the 2.5 mace! i think a 4x2 will beat a 4x4 dakota.
and i HOPE a SC'd dakota V8 will beat a turbo'd 2 liter!! but with a $50 boost controller you can up the boost from 14lbs to 17lbs and BAM 13.7's! how awsome is that?!
Eric
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
11/15/2001
22:24:11
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AWD will usually hurt 1/4 mile times, compared to the exact thing in a RWD version. Most times also an identical FWD will beat the AWD in the 1/4 mile as well. It's more then just a little more weight, its rotating mass and it hurts performance in the 1/4 10 times that of regular weight like of a hood or a battery. So say AWD adds even 100 pound of transfer cases and drive axles, it's like putting 1000# in the bed of you Dakota, sure it helps with traction but not enough to overcome that added weight. A auto WRX is not necessarily that much slower then a manual WRX, I've been in my brother's when his has barked 3 tires on a launch, and immediately been into boost, not coming off. If you just let off the break and hit the gas it does spend a bunch of time getting to the 2500 rpm where a stock WRX starts making boost. But if you powerprake the snot out of it, it goes pretty good. You have to pump up the brakes and just stand on them, and the gas, for quite a few seconds. It comes up to 2000 rpm pretty quick but you still have to hold it while it creeps up towards 3000 rpm. When he lets off it will squeal the tires and not drop below 2500 rpm. I don't see how anything short of a 5000 rpm clutch dump on a manual will be much quicker, and I think the long powerbrake is still easier on the car then a 5000 rpm dump. All that said had they just made the WRX a fwd car it would have improved 1/4 mile times but hurt every other possible performance measurement. I'm sure some of the new stuff out from Nissan, Mazda, Acura, etc. may be faster in the 1/4 then the WRX but the WRX will still be an all around better car because of the AWD. Actually the automatic WRX also gets an improved AWD system compared to the manual WRX, which may be helpful when the weather really starts to stink.
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CHICAGO JOE
Dodge Dakota
11/15/2001
23:45:56
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YEAH I'M ON THAT CHARGER IF AND WHEN IT COMES OUT.....HEMI TOO? OH YEAH I'M ON IT.
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DAKNEEDER
Dodge Dakota
11/16/2001
14:52:42
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HERSBIRD, who wouldn't take a viper or prowler? heh heh, WRX are more expensive than a dakota, but here price doesn't matter eh?(canadian). Car Audio and Electronics had a crazy WRX some guy had modified and thrown in a stereo, looks pretty cool.
Peace
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/16/2001
15:52:42
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WRX's go for 23-24k (with a stick). i have seen dakotas go for 28k! it just depends what options you get. also the WRX comes with Power windows, doors, key less entry, 6 disk indash cd player, and more standard.
Eric
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bernd
*GenIII*
11/17/2001
01:15:17
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We watched a brand spankin' new WRX run at the track tonight: 14.9 @ 92mph. (Hehehehe...i'm quicker that that now.) ;)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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HSKR
Dodge Dakota
11/17/2001
05:03:14
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I've seen a brand new bone stock WRX run a 14.6 at the track here in Sacramento.
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bernd
*GenIII*
11/17/2001
06:09:54
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And i'll bet ya the same WRX will run slower or quicker in different parts of the country. What you need to remember is the weather conditions, location (altitude mainly), and driver skill. These factors can, in some cases, change the 1/4 mile time by +/- 2 seconds in extreme cases and +/- .5 - 1 second on the average.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/17/2001
12:44:56
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almost all new cars will run slower than a broken in car. Car and Driver made a NEW WRX do 14.1
Eric
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
11/18/2001
22:48:25
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And some of the British mags (where the WRX has even less hp then the US version) have run in the high 13's on a stock WRX. That Car and Driver 14.1 also beat a new Audi S4, same day same track. Considering the S4 is almost $40,000 and a WRX can be had for low to mid $20's. I can't see why people are still buying S4's, leather isn't that expensive! I guess Car and Driver as a money, no object opnion did pick the S4 over the WRX, but it was based on the same reasoning they use to pick other cars over the Viper when the Viper flat out smokes every measured performance catagory in one of their comparison features.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
11/18/2001
22:50:17
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And some of the British mags (where the WRX has even less hp then the US version) have run in the high 13's on a stock WRX. That Car and Driver 14.1 also beat a new Audi S4, same day same track. Considering the S4 is almost $40,000 and a WRX can be had for low to mid $20's. I can't see why people are still buying S4's, leather isn't that expensive! I guess Car and Driver as a money, no object opnion did pick the S4 over the WRX, but it was based on the same reasoning they use to pick other cars over the Viper when the Viper flat out smokes every measured performance catagory in one of their comparison features.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
11/18/2001
23:12:20
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Hey, I want an S4! WRX...looks, are ok, but an S4, it has class and style. You pay a lot for that class, but it's a nice car, and you're forgetting the WRX is ok on the inside, but nothing like the Audi. It's a sooby, what can I say, it feels kinda "chinsy" (sp?). Now, if only they would let me test drive one instead of fondle, at their dealership.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
11/19/2001
20:55:29
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Well I guess I'd have to admit if money were no object, I would really want to buy... the Subie! and then put the extra $16,000 into pure performance mods. I'll take a taxi interior and better performance anyday to the best interior. If I wanted a nice interior for $40,000 I'd buy a 1 year old Caddy STS, man those are sweet on the inside, look good outside, and still have good power. Motor Trend ran 14.8 1/4 mile times with their 95 and 15.2 with a 98. I've test driven both years and the 95 does feel a bit faster and less refined, the 99 I drove I wanted bad, $25,000 but it had too many miles (63K) and I don't know about working on those northstars myself. Plus I could never have put a dead deer in the trunk of one of those. I did get to do that with my R/T yesterday, it even had a nice blood smear dripping down the back of the tailgate.
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