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11/03/2001
19:26:10

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I saw on TV (infomercial)this tornado product. it goes in the air duct or in the air filter housing. I guess it's supposed to spin the air making better fuel air mixture. has anyone tried this or heard of this. they were selling it for like $70.00, and claimed made between 5-20 hp and better gas mileage



justin
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11/03/2001
19:59:20

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i saw that to and its prolly a load a crap. if it sounds to good to be true it is. if you watch closely at the dyno test they did, the car had a K&N gen 2 intake on it when they put the thing in, im not sure if it did before they tested it without the tornado, so the K&N may have proved a gain of 20 hp. i dunno, but dont waste your money on a stupid tornado.



Donald
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11/03/2001
20:52:09

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I have an ancient 87 Dak, and It did infact help power and mileage, but i've heard on never vehicles it doesn't perform as well. However, i've never put it on a vehicle with fuel injection...

Donald



Rascal
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11/03/2001
21:43:31

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Its crap, I have seen it in non-action. Save your $$

Rascal



Troy
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11/04/2001
08:31:24

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I have used this on two other Nissan vehicles, and it did improve the power and mileage. I have heard that the tornado and/ or one of those helix TB spacers that spin the air will not work on Dodge Magnum engines. I have heard that the spinning will be of no positive effect, with the design of the Magnum intake.



Wayne
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11/04/2001
11:24:11

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Thoroughly tested one for performance and mpg on an S-10 that I used to have. I agree with Rascal - its crap. (both the S-10 and the toronado). You will never get your $ back in mpg savings or beat anyone in a race because you have one.



amberfirert
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11/04/2001
19:40:24

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One word-----CRAP



toast
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11/04/2001
21:30:07

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It only work if you have a carborated engine or throttle body fuel injection. With those two not only do you swill the air but you swill the gas too. It does not work on any MPFI or SPFI engines beacuse the fuel is sprayed direcly onto the intake valve and does not get a change to swill with the air so it does not make any difference at all. Hope this helps



Wayne
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11/05/2001
07:19:10

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My S-10 was a carbureated engind. It didn't work on it either. My son is a mechanical engineer. He was taught that swirl in a pipe decreases flow. While swirl might help MPG, due to better mixing, it will hurt performance, due to less flow. Now, think of this - if you place it before the carb./throttle body, what do you think the blade(s) in the carb./throttle body is going to do to the swirl? Staighten the flow back out of course.



Arawak
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11/05/2001
13:22:22

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What cracks me up is this thing is just a tin cylinder with fixed fins. Probably cost them all of a $1.00 to manufacture and they want $70.00 for it. P.T. Barnum must love these guys.



Foster
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11/05/2001
22:22:43

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I waz in a tornaidy once. Went to the celler where the still waz, HEY what happened to the guy that waz talken bout all that swillin, I also think that the better mixing won't hurt performance and make a lot more flow in your body I agree Wayne, anybody is going to swirl. That swirl in the pipe will decrease flow, and you stayed at a Holiday Inn express last night Right!. I'll agree the better I mix the better I think I perform. Hell, I'm swirlin right now! If you place it before the carb/what do you you think my body will do, Drink it of course. That ought to staighten your back out. Hey toast, I don't like to inject that gas swill in my body , and if you swill that air too, watch out ! I like your post about a MPSP, SPSI, FIMP MSIF or what ever you are talkin about. Makes you sound like a real fart smeller, I mean smart feller, sorry about that. I'll keep an eye on you guys and help out when I can



toast
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11/06/2001
21:07:18

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Hey Foster thanks for your input on the matter you really helped out alot and thanks for the laugh. Anyways the tornado does work, i used it on my 94 s-10 with 4.3 TBI engine (Throttle Body Injection for people like Foster) and i did notice a power increase and fuel millage increase.



Wayne
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11/08/2001
22:56:13

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toast, Did you "notice" it or did you "test" it? Lots of difference. "Notice" is kinda like "butt dynos" if you know what I mean. Not flamin' ya'. Just asking 'cause I'm the kinda guy that has to have proof in hard numbers.
foster, Thanks for the laugh. After the day I've had, I needed it.



Bill
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11/08/2001
23:12:06

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Had a friend once that was convinced that magnets strapped to his fuel line gave him better gas mileage. I asked him what it was before installing them, he said he didn't know in numbers. It just seemed like he was going to the gas station less often. So check your mileage before over several tanks. Then when you see no improvement, you will have absolute proof that you got suckered!



toast
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11/10/2001
01:13:37

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Never had it tested just noitied a difference in throttle response thats all. And my truck gained 3mpg than before i had it on.



Wayne
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11/10/2001
18:54:34

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toast, I usually check MPG over at least 3 tanks of gas. I didn't get any change (unless you can count a .2 loss). Then I checked 0-60 runs 3 times before and 3 times after. No real change. Later when my son is going to college, he learns that it is surprising that I didn't lose performance. Anyways I'm glad to hear it worked for someone. Every engine is different.



toast
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11/10/2001
22:16:28

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What type of car was it on wayne?



PizzaMan
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11/29/2001
15:38:41

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I read a great explanation for performance gains - Tornadoes are frequently installed with a tune up. The benefits from a proper tune up (better mileage and power) are frequently attributed to the new gadget you got. There is simply no way on God's green earth that jimbo's 2 dollar soda can in your intake is better than Chrysler, Ford, GM, not to mention every other company can think up. If it helped, I promise that every car and truck would have one. Honestly folks - car companies spend billions on mileage increasing technology. Why haven't they got a contract Jimbo's Soda Cans? Because its a bunch of crap. It does do one thing right, though - it's a great way for your wallet to go on a diet. Lose weight fast! Feel dumb!



skeptic
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12/28/2001
06:20:35

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This is sort of like a K&N filter. Everyone claims they can really feel the increase in performance after installing one. Well of course you can! You just replaced an old clogged air filter with a new one.



Chris Smith
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12/28/2001
15:53:23

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I've seen the ad, I was not impressed. Well, maybe I was a little impressed with the fact that they were trying to make so much $$ off it.

70$ would go further in some other mods that would do better.

Maybe they should test it on that Monte Carlo since it has a tornado in the ad.




tp on dubs
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3/10/2002
01:05:33

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screw tornado....they are so expensive...i made my own.....custom fabricated from aluminum..... i put 3 of those suckers in my homemade "cold air" intake with a 6X9 k&n filter...(i have a 3 inch intake tube)
1. throttle response was a major increase
2. very noticable under WOT when around the 2500 rpm range.
3. cost me 3 bux for a whole sheet! i was able to make 8 of them total... friends have gotten the same gains as I did.
email me for specs on how to make one....
toddpetrignani@juno.com



notchlx
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3/10/2002
22:46:23

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I look at it like this.... This is something you place in your intake tube... It takes up space in there. Therefore RESTRICTS air-flow. There are no working mechanical pieces on this contraption to make the air swirl at a faster rate than it would normally come in.(forced induction)

We port our TB's for increased CFM's. After we port we don't shove a towel into the intake do we? Clean, Cold intake air is what we want, and lots of it, not magically swirled cramped air.

Just inserting my view, I now pass the soap-box on.



tp on dubs
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3/11/2002
08:32:00

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i got cool air too coming in.... if u don`t think it helps don`t bother. i have tried it with an empty tube and my tube witht the 3 air things in it and i`d much rather have mine in there... it does works.



Bozhoz
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7/31/2003
18:32:03

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I had to do something. I have a new Dodge Ram 1500 with 5.7L Hemi. Using the trip computer with mpg on it, before the tornado, in the city it was 12.9 mpg. After the tornado, 13.8. Not saying it's entirely the tornado, but I got the desired effect with an investment of $40 on ebay. I drive almost 24000 miles a year for my job, so 1 mpg better is a lot to me. Next up, the K&N filter. I'll let you know the results.



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