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Mike
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
14:21:51
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 Subject: BERND! lil help here
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i know you have a s/c on 3.9 running 10 #'s ..i also have a 3.9 but w/o a S/c.... i always want a lil more ..curious if you can run MORE then 10 #'s
thanks in advance
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bernd
*GenIII*
 
10/14/2001
11:05:43
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You can run however much the blower and engine will allow...making sure that the engine is built accordingly.
The V6 can handle up to 9-10# within safe limits but I wouldn't push it higher without forged pistons and a strong set of H-beam rods.
I will be upping the boost to 12# eventually but the replacement engine is underway (winter project) to be able to handle it. (Forged Pistons, Carillo rods, massaged crank, etc.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10# w/Nitrous
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
12:36:40
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massaged crank whats does that mean ? and where in the world are you finding thses parts i cant find rods or pistons ....EEEEK! plus i dunno what size ............
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toxic13
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
12:41:56
|  RE: BERND! lil help here
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massaged crank, mmmm... sounds kinky. i also want to know where you're finding these parts bernd. i can't find any of this stuff.
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bernd
*GenIII*
10/14/2001
15:10:54
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"Massaged" means polished, oil holes chamfered, and balanced to precise tolerances. (There's a little bit more to it than just that but those are the main modifications).
There's plenty of pistons, rods, and valvetrain components for the V6...it's a 5.2L minus the front two cylinders. Pistons, rods, valves, valve springs/retainers/keepers/rockers, etc., all fit from the 5.2L. Just make sure you use the "Magnum" parts and approximately from the same year or newer.
What i'm using for the new V6:
* JE Forged (Dishtop) Pistons - .030" larger
* SpeedPro File-Fit Rings
* Carillo Rods (H-Beam and already shot-peened)
* "Massaged" Crank (See above)
* .512"/.512" 210/220 114 Camshaft
* Ported factory heads (to Mopar Performance specs with bowl work included - No polished...i'm not running Alcohol or Nitromethane - Polshing is useless in the ports unless you run those fuels)
* More work on the factory intake with a billet belly-pan (got the prototype back)
* 50mm Flometrics TB (already running it for the last 6 months)
It's a winter project which won't be installed until early spring.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10# w/Nitrous
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CW
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
16:54:44
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Bernd when you get the dyno, and track numbers you have to let us know. It sounds great.
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
17:27:24
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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ok that explains alot but what size pistons would i need i am not boring over so and what size rings do i need to look for
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
17:33:56
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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mine is a 2000 did they even make a 5.2 in 2000?
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
10/15/2001
01:47:35
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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bernd, if you are going to build another engine, why not build a V8? a nice blown with NOS 11 sec 408 would be nice!!
Eric
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
10/15/2001
08:28:20
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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Its sounds like you made the v6 you currently have into a killer. Why not through a 8 in there with your list of mods and you will have a sweet truck.
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toxic13
Dodge Dakota
10/15/2001
08:51:24
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you guys are just jealous that you have a 3.9l on your a$$ :)
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bernd
*GenIII*
10/15/2001
08:56:13
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I used to run V8's (last car was a BB Chevy that ran 12.2's at 120mph). It's time to be different. ;)
Mike: The 3.9L is based on the 5.2L...same pistons, rods, valvetrain. You can use the Magnum 5.2L pistons/rods/valvetrain in your 2000. (Magnum being from '92+)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10# w/Nitrous
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
10/15/2001
20:47:18
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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Yeah but BRENT! ITS NOT A V8. I think everyone on this sight would like to see what you could do with a dodge V8.
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DAK2
Gen III
10/16/2001
10:00:40
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BERND,
I thought the 3.9 was 5.9 minus 7 and 8
Y2K DAK 3.9L 5 Spd OS/2 Keeps going&going&going
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DAK2
Gen III
10/16/2001
10:02:52
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OOOOPS
I meant 5.2 not 5.9
Y2K DAK 3.9L 5 Spd OS/2 Keeps going&going&going
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
10/16/2001
10:04:02
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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nope, its a 5.2, although the stuff from the 3.9 will also fit the 5.9 (rockers, Gen II, and other things)
Eric
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bernd
*GenIII*
10/16/2001
10:14:03
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Mar: Exactly. I've built V8's in the past...time for something different. :)
Dak2: I thought the same thing until I compared the injector rails and intake manifold. It's the front two...not the rear two.
Kota: Yup...got a set of 5.9L injector rails sitting the garage and need to "modify" them to fit the V6 with a dual inlet for the fuel supply (evens out the rails and the #2 and #4 cylinders don't run lean that way).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10# w/Nitrous
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
10/16/2001
13:57:08
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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Yah but dont you ever stop and think to your self and say "Man what would happend if I built an 8 just like i did my 6." You would be flying.
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bernd
*GenIII*
10/17/2001
00:06:20
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Nope...i'm only thinking: "Man...I wonder if that guy in the R/T realized he just has his doors blown off by a V6." ;)
Like I said before, I've built and owned many V8's (12.2 @ 120mph on the motor...no S/C or Nitrous in the old BB Camaro) so i've been there already. It's something different.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10# w/Nitrous
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toxic13
Dodge Dakota
10/17/2001
02:30:38
| RE: BERND! lil help here
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bernd, let us know how the "modification" of those fuel rails go. i'm always in the market for DIY, somewhat innexpensive mods, especially now since i'm in college, and i just happened to laid off today :(.
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DAK2
Gen III
10/18/2001
10:35:09
|  RE: BERND! lil help here
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Not to be a smarta$$ but everything I've seen
(exhaust,heads,valves,etc)points to the 3.9 as having the rear 2 cyl. removed. Unless they turned the engine around and now the back is the front.From what I can tell the fuel rails look
almost the same (- 2 injectors) the front two
are close together (intake valves on 1&3 and 2&4
are next to each other such as (EIIEEI).Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Y2K DAK 3.9L 5 Spd OS/2 Keeps going&going&going
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bernd
*GenIII*
10/19/2001
00:58:39
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If you really want to get confused:
The Front injector on the passenger side and the rear injector on the driver side are the ones missing. I've compared the fuel rails.
That would mean that #2 and #7 are missing from the 318 to make the 3.9L.
Confused yet?
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10# w/Nitrous
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