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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
07:00:52
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Finally got the G-Tech! Pulled several 0-60 runs with a best of 6.75 and 6.98, 7.15 and 7.21. This was bone stock without the flap and elbow, stock filter on 15x7 tires. Not bad eh?
Q
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Matt Barret
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
08:04:32
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NICE !! Sounds about right, I never have G-tech'd, but my 1/8 mile times are 9.00 @ 76 mph. Some rough math says thats in the mid 6's (0-60) !
Thanks for the feedback Dr. Q. !!
Matt Y2K-HEMI
00' RC 4.7L 5spd 3.92
14.23 @ 94.49
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
08:12:19
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Yea, finally found a nice stretch of flat country road. Tried a 1/4 run on the interstate Fukked it up but good 16.3@83 (0-60@8.3). I was still learning how to use the G-Tech. The 6.75 was after I finally found the right combo of slip to grip-talk about sportin' a chub! I was all set to post it but the site was down last night. So Matt how long is my clutch gonna last?
Q
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Matt Barret
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
08:41:59
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Hee hee, Clutch ?? What clutch :) Umm, I've got 37,000 on mine, with A LOT of ass whupping, 150 or so 1/4 mile passes, 100 or so 3500rpm clutch dumps with Slicks, it still feels strong, have'nt noticed any slipping or burning. 1/4 mile times still seem to be consistent. Knock on wood the trans and clutch have served me well considering the abuse it sees on a daily basis. Should see 50K-75K with no problem and for a normal driver much more.
Matt
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CyberWolf
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
09:26:28
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HEY EVERYONE - HERE IS ONE OF THOSE TIMESLIPS TO USE IN YOUR 4.7 VS 5.9 DEBATES - LOL
I went to the show in Houston last weekend. My times were pretty consistant. I still have some problems with losing lots traction in second gear. Here is my best slip:
RT = .831
60' = 2.139
330' = 6.261
1/8 = 9.695
MPH = 71.96
1000' = 12.684
1/4 = 15.224
MPH = 88.44
Several of my time slips are within a .1 of this. I really need to work on my 2nd gear shifts. I'm learnin' though. I'm happy with it considering my minimal mods. There were 2 R/Ts with similar mods as me. One ran 15.88 and the other ran 15.4. The others were more heavily moded and were running mid to high 14's.
Keith
2001 CC, 4.7, 5 speed, 3.92 LS, Flowmaster catback, G-Forced Cold Air, 180 thermostat
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Anthony G
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
09:50:41
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Hey, Nice times CyberWolf.
But I can beat those times with one hand :) vs your two. LOL
Anthony G
2001 R/T RC White with Stripes,hard cover,tint,fully loaded.
F&B 50mm TB and K&N FIPKII
Need to get rid of the poor traction RSA tires!
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G. Cowardin
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
10:58:03
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Cyberwolf, where in Houston is the track? About how much did you pay and how many runs did you get it in? I am used to about $30 in Atlanta and getting about 6 runs or so. I live in Sugar Land and hope the track is not too far. I discovered MTI is only about 8 miles away, where I can get all my Hotchkis goodies in the future. Thanks.
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CyberWolf
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
11:08:32
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Anthony G - I never thought of it that way - lol
G. Cowardin - It is actually in Baytown (east of Houston). It is a very nice track. I went to the Houston Mopar show. The entry was $45 for both days. Time trials was in the mornings and you could run as much as you could - probably around 8 times each morning - The bracket race was held each afternoon. I won 3rd place on Saturday out of around 43 trucks. I won $50. I only ran 12 times during the whole weekend. That was plenty for me.
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
11:49:47
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I couldn't stay in the office. So I went down by the airport and got in a few G-Tech runs.
The Best was 15.12@96.4 (0-60@7.3) Worst was 15.68@91.3. I think getting down under 15 shouldn't be that hard. I keep trying to let the clutch out at 1200-generally ends up being 2500! I debated whether or not to shift into fourth I shifted at about 5300! HAHA! IT'S THE SPEED IT MAKES ME MAD!! MAD I TELL YOU!!! HAHAHA!
Dr.Q
'01 Patriot Blue SLT 4.7 5sp 3.92
0-60 @ 6.75sec.
1/4mi @ 15.12@96.4
Stock-no flap or funnel
(OK Matt it feels nice poting this here deal)
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Matt Barret
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
12:04:16
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Dr. Q, NICE !!!!! I love it!! 14's are in order for you ! My best times on radials was launching at 1200 rpms, anything more usually resulted in a John Force smoke show!! Bawaa haa haa!!!
Keep perfecting the launch, it will lower your times more than any simple bolt on! Also, shifting at 5100 seems to work best for a Stock 4.7L, 5300 to 5500 if you have TB and Computer work.
Matt
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
12:15:30
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I am going to have to learn how to launch my truck all over again. With the turbo, the boost hits and the tires are anhilated. Hopefully it will work better at the track (with slicks). I have no real idea how fast it will go at this time.... but the mph is astounding!
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G. Cowardin
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
12:57:07
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Yeah, the bracket racing is wide open if you have an Automatic, just punch it. Its fun to go thru 4 gears and sit still with a 5 speed though. I wonder if they have any rice boy nights over at the drag park that you can whup those "Pepsi-can piston" kids. I will never stop laughing from that kill post. Haha.
Awaiting my Dakota...
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steveo
Dodge Dakota
10/09/2001
17:13:54
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duner, you got a turbo put on? thats sweet. your 4.7 right? did you do the install yourself? how hard was it and how much did it cost? id like to add a little pep to my 4 banger. if you could email me that would be really cool.
thanks alot
steve
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
15:40:39
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Well I went down to the Autozone to look for those sping clamp deals to help with the hopity hop my real wheel were giving me. They were 9.99 a side. Down the isle a ways were some chrome Lakewood traction bars for 28.99. Guess what I did? The intallation was cake 'cept for the extra bolts that had a different thread and endup stripping two of the end off the u-bolts they turned out to be for the bumpers. Some WD-40 later they were on and LOOKING COOL. I had to build up the base of one of the bumpers to give 5/8" clearance weld stick to the rescue!
I just got home I had about 200 lbs of sand in the back-for traction Right! 0-60 7.9sec. With the sand and traction bars on 6.84!
I'll pull a few runs on the G-tech tonight.
Well, Looks like I'm gonna have to give that whole sleeper thing a rest. With these chrome bars sticking out of the bottom-looks badazz! If these work as good as I think they can I can forget about lowering it too!
Hasta,
Q
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kicker01
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
16:31:25
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Hey Man, let me know how those cheapie traction bars work out. I have the same pos 215/75R15's you got and I need all the help i can get with traction.
'01 RC 4.7 5spd
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
18:27:13
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I'm such an idiot! Ran four 1/4 mi runs best of 15.23 @ 91.4. WITH THE A/C ON!! duh! I was on my way to the hardware store to get the fernco elbow etc. when I realized it!
So since then I got the elbow and 3" of pvc Pipe to the stock airbox with a K&N dropp in airfilter. So later tonight, no A/C, No Ballast, No LSD!
Dr.Q
'01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5sp 3.92
0-60 @ 6.75sec.
1/4mi @ 15.12@96.4
Stock no Flap/Funnel
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
19:45:11
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So I drop in the K&N use the ferngo 90 degree elbow in place of the air hat got the traction bars on-and my truck becomes a turd!
0-60 7.4
1/4 mile 15.54 @ 92.3
This is the best of four runs.
I'm thinkin' mabe it's time to put the flap and funnel on?
Lamentably yours,
Q
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
21:14:58
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I reset the PCM. At least I'm getting consistant. I've consistantly Run between 15.45 and 15.55. Can it be that this here motor doesn't want to breathe easier?
Q
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bIG dAK
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
21:43:56
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Dr.Q is that about the times a R/T runs?What was the speed in the 1/4?
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
21:49:39
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Stock 4.7 5sp 3.92 and R/T's runn pretty close, hence the on going contreversy. I don't have an LSD if I did i should be able to run under 15 1/4's. Most postings for stock R/T's have been 14.9-15.5.
Q
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CW
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
22:21:55
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Good info Dr.Q. I just bought a 4.7 RC 5 speed 3.92 with LSD and have been wondering what works and what doesn't, useing something other than the butt dyno. Thank you and keep it up.
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jj
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
23:46:02
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Thank You Dr Q for this info,its good to get some data on our trucks! Maybe your going to fast now with the air intake and exceeding the accuracy of the g tech.It`s weird it would go slower well keep us all posted to you findings, thanks , jj In order to acheive such high accuracy Maximum G range of G-TECH/Pro is ~1.3 G's. This is fine for all the cars who's 1/4 mile E.T.'s are above 7 seconds. If you have a car that's below 7 seconds you may experience inaccurate measurements due to clipping. Clipping is when the amount of G-Forces exceeds the limits of G-TECH/Pro. This can't hurt G-TECH/Pro but it can upset the measurements. Clipping will manifest itself by longer times than expected.
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jj
Dodge Dakota
10/13/2001
23:48:02
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cut & pasted that last part from www.gtech.com jj
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
00:17:28
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I don't think I have to worry about exceeding the test range of the G-tech in my truck.
It had gotten cooler out, so I thought that that might be a factor. Nope, sill ran consistant 15.45, 15.52. So I put the stock filter back on Nope that wasn't it 15.68, 15.78.
Next the old air hat goes on.
Q
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
00:47:10
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Dr.Q. how low do thoes traction bars hang? i have a 6" drop on my dak, do you think they will scrape? are they really that good?
Eric
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
01:06:58
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If your using blocks-yes you'll be bottoming out. If your dropping with shackles or different springs you might be able to pull it off. They hang about 2 1/2" off the bottom of the spring. I had wanted to drop it 2" with blocks in the back but can't see it with with the bars. If I use spring clamps mabe. What I should do is put a power trax rear on it and a set of 18". But I'll have to wait til I have an extra $1400.
Q
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
01:09:53
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thanks, do they really help with wheel spin?
were they worth it? (i guess for $30 you cant go wrong ;-)
Eric
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
02:01:58
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Not so much with wheel spin. But since I have a one wheel wonder it cured the hopping problem. It has been easier to get more control over the launches. So my times have been more consistant, although disapointing.
Q
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
17:46:29
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Did I hear somebody was worried about running under a 7 sec 1/4 mile and getting unaccurate G-tech times? Man you got more to worry about if you are running a 7 sec 1/4 mile on some lonely road because that means you are probably getting up into the 250 MPH range as well. I don't think anybody here will be into the 7's anytime soom!
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kicker01
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
20:05:47
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Dr. Q, keep in mind that once you do a mod you have to give the PCM time to adjust for the change. When I first got my 70mm TB and z-tube on the trucks acceleration felt the same if not worse than before. A few days after the install the performance greatly increased. The PCM will also learn your driving habbits and Adjust accordingly. If you drive like an old woman you performance will be much different from when you really get on the gas while daily driving. Correct me if I'm in error :)
'01 RC 4.7 5spd
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
21:23:47
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Thanks Kicker, That kinda what I figured. I left the Fernco elbow and K&N airfilter on. I'll give it a week or two of heavy footed driveing. (the sacrifices we have to make for science-HA!) Hopefully the PCM will commence to performing its function! I had thought the "learnig process had more to do with shift points on the automatics.
Q
P.S. Hows that 70mm TB?
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kicker01
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
22:18:09
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The 70mm and the ztube really helped the acceleration. I feel the 72 would have been overkill though. I need to go to the track to get some times. Traction is a problem though. How do those Lakewood bars help you hook up?
'01 RC 4.7 5spd
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SMITTY2
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
22:30:47
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Dr Q,
Just to give you a little info on the 70mm tb, I don't have times before the mod but I did recently get the g-tech in. My best time so far 0-60 has been 7.13. This by the way is in a QC. It should definitely give you a little punch in a RC. I found that the best launch is to release around 1100. I still have a little wheel spin though. That time is running with the jet chip stage II, IAT adjuster (yes they work together, believe it or not), 70mm TB, po' boy intake, dynomax superturbo dual exhaust, and 3923 autolites. When I get a chance I will put the stock TB back on and get some before and after times for you to compare. I don't think you would regret getting the TB though. See ya!
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SLEEPER318
Dodge Dakota
10/14/2001
22:51:17
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Ok, the g-tech mph isn't worth of crap. The E.T. is close but the mph is WWAAAAAAAAAYYYYY OFF. just thought you guys like to know, bring it to the track and see what it'll do.
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jj
Dodge Dakota
10/15/2001
15:56:45
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Thanks Hersbird, I cannot read, I was confusing 0 - 60`s with 1/4 mile times, jj
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/15/2001
17:08:17
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The g-tech measures the speed right at the 1/4 mile line. The traps on a strip measure the average of your speed over the last 100 feet.
Q
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
10/15/2001
23:41:02
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So as Dr Q said the G-tech is actually giving a more accurate MPH at the exact 1/4 mile distance. The problem is you can't do that with light beams as the 1/4 mile tracks use, they have to give an average speed, not an exact speed at the moment you cross the line, as the G-tech does. I'm surprised they didn't just program the G-tech to give an average MPH over the last 100 feet as the lights do for more comparable numbers.
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/18/2001
00:14:35
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I spent a good portion of the evening with a dremlo in my hand first grinding the baffles off of the top half of the air box-then I got brave. I took off the TB, ground the screws flush with the shaft, tapered the ouside rim and the narrow portion inside before the butterfly the just basically polished the snot out of it!
I took it out for a cruise on the freeway. There were sounds coming out that gave me a chub! I really wasn't sure if the PCM had awoke from its slumber. I found a side road and pulled a quick 0-60 6.43! I high tailed it back to the airport. Out of four runs-1/4mile 14.78! @96.4mph 0-60 @6.23 holysheepdip! I don't know what I did to this truck, but I think it likes it! WOOOHOOO!
Dr.Q
P.S. Dear Santa for Chrismas I want a powertrax-no slip!
'01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5sp 3.92
0-60 @ 6.23sec.
1/4mi @ 14.78@96.4
Home brew airbox
K&N Drop in
Lakewood Traction Bars
One Wheel Wonder on 15X7 POS stock tires BABY!
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
10/18/2001
03:02:55
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wow! congradulations. where does the power kick in? does it spin the tires more? (just wondering, on my 5.2 the TB added more lowend torque than anything)
Eric
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
10/18/2001
08:20:28
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Yup the wheel spun so much that I coulddn't go WOT til halfway through second gear. In fact in first gear the revs climed so fast that the wheels were still spinning at 5200. Also poer didn't seem to drop off as quick over 5000.
Got a question for any body out there I reset the PCM when I added the Home brew air box and K&N drop in. Should I reset it again after doing my at home port-n-polish and grinding the baffles from the airbox?
Q
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Will
Dodge Dakota
10/18/2001
08:27:06
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I also had a decrease in performance when I removed the stock elbow and air hat. I didn't try grinding the airbox. Do you think that is where your increase came from. Could it have been a cooler night??--Will
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