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R.L.Stuart
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12/05/2001
18:20:26

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Speed Limiter workes off the ABS system for all you 2001 4.7l people Marty at KRC can get a flash for you (KRC 321-635-8866)to raise the rev and speed limiter.
5.9 Guy are going to hate this,Have ordered a set of the 4.7HO cams from Jeep(waiting list)also waiting on set of dome pistons and rings for the HO found out today that DC is going to replace the 45rfe trans(CRAP).Things are looking up for the 4.7!!!!!!!



hardbody
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12/05/2001
18:45:03

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I've had my 01 4x4, 4.7 totally stock up to 103 no problem, could have gone faster just ran out of room. It sure handles and rides nice at 100MPH! feels like I'm doing 60!
My old truck 87 nissan 4x4 king cab V6, 4.62 gears (stock) auto trans, 33" tires got me up to 105 (down hill) and got pulled over too! Cop let me go no ticket nothing cause I have the same last name as someone he must have known, he asked if I was related I said I might be, but I'm not.



SuperDak
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12/05/2001
19:02:31

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why don't yall just do what dk said and ask them to remove the limiter



Lesley
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12/05/2001
19:08:01

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The dealerships won't do it, it's a safety measure.

97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
Awaiting Installation: Borla catback, V8 R/T TB

SuperDak
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12/05/2001
19:46:53

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well why did they remove mine?
All you have to do is ask nicely



Lesley
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12/05/2001
20:40:19

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I guess it depends on the dealership, and where you are.

97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
Awaiting Installation: Borla catback, V8 R/T TB

dk
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12/05/2001
23:02:58

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I am getting mine off. But anywho, I figured I'd test this post out, and I had my 2002 QC 4.7 3.55 Auto 4X4 Full load up to 110mph. I will try further tomorrow.



jj
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12/06/2001
14:45:35

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I`ve been to 3 dealers in LA area all very nice and would be more then happy to flash,reflash,or any thing else to my chip,however none of them knew how to remove the 98 mph limiter on my Dakota.All told me if I could find out how they would be glad to try it,one mgr, told me he bought a jet chip for his dakota,another mgr. told me he`d like to eliminate this on his surbaban.Nobody could give me the info i Need.good luck jj



ZenDak
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12/06/2001
15:05:26

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R.L.Stuart,,,,
I thought that parts from the 4.7HO wouldn't work on the regular 4.7's.
What year truck do you have,,, and how much money did it cost to get the cam, and dome pistons? Is that all it takes to get the reg.4.7 up to HO status?
I've been really curious about doing this my self.



R.L.Stuart
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12/06/2001
18:38:11

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To remove the limiter or to raise it they did mine by going into the ABS part of the PCM with a code 10 and code 12,Have had my truck up to 120 before it was 97 mph,The limiter runs off the antilock brake system,THATS WHAT THE REP TOLD ME WHEN IT WAS RAISED TO 149mph,My tires are (Z) rated and the Dealers can remove it,I call it the COP chip!!!!!



R.L. Stuart
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12/06/2001
18:47:05

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CAM P/N 53021411AB left and 530211412AA right none in system in Florida as of this date,placed a $500.00 deposit on them and the pistons,Pistons are dome and everything else is the same for both engines,PCM and pistons are the heart of this thing.I have a bid in with the insurance company on a 2002 Jeep Limited with the 4.7HO hit in rear by TRAIN
Have 2001 CC 4.7!!!!!!!



hardbody
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12/06/2001
19:31:43

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This is in regards to the only parts different in the 4.7 HO as compared to the regular 4.7 are "the dome pistons and the pcm" You better check again before you waste a lot of money. Ok here are all the differences: the 4.7 uses a cast iron crank, the HO is forged steel-- crankshaft damper on HO is unique to the HO and can NOT be used on any other motor, The 4.7 has pressed-fit wrist pins, the HO uses floating wrist pins. the main bearings are designed just for the HO and are NOT interchangeable. Pistons are dome shaped which increases comp ratio to 9.7 to 1. HO has unique cylinder heads that have a different shape for better flow. Cams are different can not be used on regular 4.7. exhaust valves in HO are unique as are all valve springs not interchangeable!.spark plugs in HO are platinum tipped, 2 extra knock sensors in the valley under the intake manifold on the HO, HO has unique PCM calibration. This infomation has been taken directly out of the Mastertech reference manual from DC tech training. JULY 2001 issue #7. Given to me by a mechanic at my local dealer upon my inquiry of the differences between the two 4.7 engines. If you know different let us know. sorry so long



Demon-Xanth
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12/07/2001
02:18:41

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If the speed limiter works off the ABS system, does that mean that my 2002 Dak doesn't have a limiter because I didn't get the ABS option? That'd be sweet!



jj
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12/07/2001
14:15:32

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Thanks RL I wil print out your post and take it to the dealers ,I`ll post back.DX I believe all dakotas come standard with rear abs.wish me luck ,jj



jj
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12/07/2001
16:54:01

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OK pasadena dodge told me you are correct RL, had to talk to the brake mechanics, he said it would make the trans slip at high speed , dosent make sence ,does it? o well he added that you can remove the limiter by just unpluging the rear wheel sencore,at the top of the rear axel.this would affect the abs though.this will only work with standard rear abs only.He also said this mod would also let the trans slip at hi speed.? o well , jj



D
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12/07/2001
21:51:38

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RL, what dealership did you go to? I went to
Dodge of Alhambra, and Jack Ellis Glendale
(California). Glendale said no way, they wont
do it cause it voids the warranty, and dont want
to be responsible/dont know how to do it.

And Alhambra service mgr. said that i would
have to wait for the mopar pcm to be available
for the 2001 4.7 motor.

If you have a name or any info on who would
do it in Cali, please post.



CW
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12/07/2001
22:14:13

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I guess the whole point of this thread is that you can not remove the limiter. But you can make the computer not know how fast you are going so it doesn't know when to shut you down. Unplugging the sensor in the rear diff may have some adverse effects on the autos. On the manuals though you do the shifting so no worries. Personally why would you want ot remove the limiter? Can't think of any reason to go over 117mph myself and my mods haven't gotten me that fast in the quarter either. lol. Will be a while before that will happen.

2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v
Working on 4" true cold air intake

R.L Stuart
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12/07/2001
22:25:50

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Don't un-plug the wheel sensor,The limiter is in the rear trans tail shaft they both work together if you go to the PCM and find the BLACK AND ORANGE wire going to the performance side of the computer you have it.In Cal.I know they have different laws,Im in Florida no EPA testing and most of the Service Managers are Gear Heads.DC has a flash to remove the limiter,Some Police Dep use the Dakota's with the 4.7L and the 360,NO LIMITER,Call Marty at KRC and he can get you a flash 2001 and 2002 4.7L (321-635-8866)Hope this Helps,Ask your Zone Rep to remove the Limiter!



R.L.Stuart
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12/08/2001
08:22:20

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I told you the wrong wire it's the WHITE/ORANGE to the CAB and the Light Green/White to the Pos side of the OUTPUT SHAFT SPEED SENSOE and the Dark Brown and Black to the Neg side of output shaft sensor.I should Have the 70mm Tb this week,I tryed the headers and have yet to notice any gains.Did notice that in getting to much HEAT on the upper control arm bushings and there bad from the factory!



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