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Justin
Dodge Dakota
9/02/2001
23:08:27
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This might be a little long but, you have to read this. Well to get all of you in the picture, I'am dating this girl, and her father has a Tacoma. Now I've had my 2001 Dakota 4.7, auto, for a little over 4 months, and the first day that I picked her up in it, "at her house" her dad came zooming out the door, to come check out my new ride. He did say it was nice and all, but right before I got in my truck to leave, he said when are we going to race? I replied, hell no I just got it, so he said, because you know that you'll loose. Well I did'nt think about it that much after that, until, he brought it up again. This time I could tell that he was being for real. He put me on the spot at work, in front of a few other guy's, and said, "Justin I'll beat you anytime, anyplace 1/8 or 1/4 mile it does not matter my truck will smoke your's, and to make it a good race, I'll bet you $100.00 I'll smoke you're truck. So what do you guy's think, he has a 95' or 97' Tacoma I can't remember, and don't care either, but it is stock, and I think that it has a xs or something like that on the tail-gate, it also has a 5spd in it. Mine is a 2001 4.7L Quad Cab w/3:55 gears, & a auto trans. Mods on mine are: Flowmaster exhaust single in/dual out;airaid intake-modified w/ a Fernco rubber hose in place of the air box, so that it is a complete hose from the throttle body to the K&N filter, and with-in the next day or so a, IAT adjuster from Bernd which will be installed on my truck. So what do you think? have any of you ever raced a Tacoma? if so, then what happened? If you ask me I know my truck would beat his, if mine were stock, but I just want to make him look and feel like a complete idiot. Please replie and tell me what you think and know.
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shayne
Dodge Dakota
9/02/2001
23:15:40
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hey justin i raced like a 97' tacoma recular cab, and i have a 2000 3.9L club cab still stock at the time and i smoked him pretty bad. it was close at first but after that he was way behind me. the only mod to his truck that i could see was exhaust.hope this helps and good luck.
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kota on 20s
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9/03/2001
03:12:15
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justin, my advice to you is...stop dating this girl. it is pretty obvious that her dad SMOKES CRACK on a regular basis. did he want to race you in reverse? i guess it dosent matter because you will SMOKE him either way.
tell her dad to up the stakes to about $400, that way he can buy you one of thoes new 70mm TB's to go with your intake. =)
good luck (not that you need it) Eric
ps. i smoked a taco by about 10 car lengths in 4 blocks when my 5.2 was stock
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Hawkeye
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9/03/2001
08:04:19
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Thats a bet I'd have to take. Either he knows something about his truck that you dont or he seriously under-estimates your Dak.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
09:43:52
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Hey Kota,
you said something about installing a 70mm throttle body, how well does it work, and can you tell that much of a difference. I figured that, for what you pay for them, you should feel at least a little something. And oh by the way, My girl is also getting me a set of JBA headers for Christmas, that's one more extra mod!
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
11:30:34
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Is your a 4x4 or 4x2? Is his Tacoma 4x4 or 4x2? Does his truck have the 4 cylinder or the V6? Thanks
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
12:03:51
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The guy that said he smoked a Tacoma with his V6 was probably racing a 4cyl Tacoma. The V6 will beat a V6 Dak anyday all things being equal.
Yo may lose to your girlfriends dad if he's like Sandman is sugesting about 2WD vs you as a 4X4. If you are both 2WD trucks it will be close because of your weight disadvatage but I will go with the Dak if it's a full 1/4. Regardless his truck is a POS compared to yours. Those quad cab's are sweet rides and he knows it and is jealous so needs something. I will lend you my truck 2WD 5 speed dakvs 2 WD 5 speed Tacoma. That would be a true apples vs apples comparison. Make sure you raise the ente up however so we can both have 70mm throttle bodys.
later.
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
12:22:16
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justin, when i did my TB i noticed more lowend torque, and a little more HP in the upper rpm range. when up gradding, it will also compliment other mods. i didnt do the 70mm TB because it is differant than the twin hole 50mm TB that goes on my 5.2.
by the way, does your girl have a sister? i would be more than happy to take their dad's money AND have her sis buy me some parts!!!!! damm, where did you meet this girl? he he he
good luck, Eric
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
13:59:15
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Sandman,
His tacoma is stock 2X4, 5spd-manual, club cab,
6cyl. I know that my truck is heavier, but it just seems that I would smoke him easily, stock to stock, just because my truck is an 8cyl. in the 1/4 mile.
Justin
2001 QC 2X4
4.7L auto 3:55 gears
flowmaster, intake
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
14:04:04
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Hey do any of you guy's know anybody that has an 3.9L. My brother has one, and he has a post out, about the "IAT adjuster" his name is Nate. What he wants to know is, "how well does it work, and can you tell a difference when the weather is warm out.
Thanks; Justin
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THEUFO1
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
01:12:11
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When i got my dak, 97 v6 3.9l 5 speed. I raced the v-6 tacoma. I do admit it was a little faster than my stock dakota but i think now that i have done some minor mods i could win easiely(Exhaust and intake)
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
02:37:59
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just make sure he dosent have the TRD supercharger. with that light truck he would win
ERic
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
10:19:18
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To be honest with you the toyota you discribed is faster then your club cab 4.7 auto 3.55.
Your 0 - 60 is 10.5 his is 10.4 and your quarter mile is 17.9 his is 17.8. This would be a close race but you have the advantage of the auto he might miss a shift or take to long. I think you could beat him but it would be less then a truck length apart.
I think for your best changes do the race on a cold day and let you truck cool down. On the way to the race track or were every your going drive fast but not hard. Dont let the truck idle if its not needed to this will keep the fuel and engine cool needed to make power in the dodge engines.
Use Regular Gas 87 Octane will give you the best power any higher octane is slower to burn. and use a syntetic oil like castrol or amzoil. And get your truck washed and waxed. Try to get a K&N filter or system for your truck that will allow you to beat him every time.
Your truck will beat it past the quarter mile so why dont you try to expand the race.
GOOD LUCK
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
12:03:12
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So.., you dont think that I could take him in a 1/8 mile, because that is the closest track around where I live. And that would be nice to show him up like that.
Justin
01 QC 4.7
w/ mods
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
13:01:13
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justin and mar, when my truck (98 CC 5.2 5speed 3.55 LSD) just had a intake and exhaust (which justin has) it ran a 14.92 at 92 mph, according to my g-tech. i know the 4.7 is a faster engine than mine and even with his auto he will definatly be in the 15's IMHO.
i also beleve that justin will have the advantage on a shorter track. the v8 makes a lot more torque at a lower rpm and that helps get the truck moving faster. the taco has to waite unitll the rps's get up there before he is makeing any power. hopefully by that time the race will be over.
before the race take out unnessisary weight, like the jack, spare tire, and try to run on a empty tank (gas weighs a lot!!)
Eric
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AndyL
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
14:10:34
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Justin I have a 99cc5.23.55auto and I raced I mean SMOKED a 5.0 the other day and all I have done so far is K&N filtration system and gibson split rear exhaust and the 5.0's I hate to say it as I hate Fords is faster than the TOY but with your mods so far you should smoke your girlfriends dads Azz. One thing disconect your battery for about ten minutes so that when you hook it back up the computer can adjust to the mods better. Let us know how the race turns out!
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
17:29:39
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Sorry i thought your truck was stock i didnt read your main post that well. Now you might be able to do it. I would just take him on and see what happens. Just act confident to make him nervous and he will screw up.
KOTA ON 20 my friend has his exact same truck and QUAD CAB with auto and to get that truck to run in the 14s takes more then a exhaust. Your 5 speed helped you out big and it will help out the taco. But i think with the mods that justin did he will beat him over and over again. But i think if he is worried about the embarrassment of him losing he should go to the track and test
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
17:31:14
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Thanks guy's
and yes I will let you know what happens.. when that time comes. I already had it in my head that I would most likely beat him, but I just wanted to get some input from you guy's, to see what you all thought. If you still have any input, or info that you would like to share, I would be more than happy to check them out, and reply.
see yah, Justin
01 QC;4.7;auto;3:55 gears
MODs flowmaster;airaid intake(modified)&
within the next day or so a IAT adjuster
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swampdak
Gen III
9/04/2001
17:57:45
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Hey justin I would be carefull,I think you will get about the same et in the 1/4 mile as me as our weights are about the same 4300 lbs.Unfortunately the toyota will run about the same et. I think you have the edge and it is a win win because if you lose you have a happy future father in law and if you lose you have a hundred bucks!!!
Y2K CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT K&N 16.35/82.41
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
20:15:29
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What, have you ever raced one?
And don't forget I have a 2X4, a 4X4 is a little slower, at least that's what I've heard,(from the above messages). Oh and by the way Eric, I decided to get a 68mm TB instead, that is what Dan suggested from fastman TB's, he said that a 70mm is quite much, and can cause me to loose a little on bottom-end(and I might loose some anyway from the 68mm, but not enough to notice) but after I come out of the hole, and get up into the 3000+ RPM range,... that's when you'll realy see some HP's and MPH start kicking in. yah!
Well I've gotta go, some pep.&cheese.pizza is call'in, cause my stomach is grawll'in so loud that I can't even think about what to write.
Thanks for all of your inputs;
keep me posted
Justin, 01 QC 2X4 4.7 auto 3:55 w/ mods
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andrew
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
23:34:50
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I know those Tacomas are kind of quick. A freind and I were in his folks late 90's Nissan Altima 4-door with a 4 cylinder and a stick and we came up to this guy in a new 4-door pre-runner Tacoma with either the 4 or 6 in it and I am not sure about the tranny but we were just about even the whole way and my freind who has driven sticks his whole life was down shifting and all that other stick shift crap and we still couldnt catch him as he started to easily pull away. My freinds car may not sound too quick but it is. Some fun we used to have on saturday nights is find those pesky escort sports guys try to turn into rice rockets and just blow them away.
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
9/05/2001
00:10:06
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Hey Justin! The 2001 comes with a 68mm TB fastman upgrades the 68mm to 71mm. Let me know if you happy with it I'm going to br getting a new TB within the month and I'll probobly get the 68 to 71 mm TB.
Dr.Q
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nextgen
Dodge Dakota
9/06/2001
10:48:07
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Ok, I was at Route 66 Raceway a couple weeks ago for test and tune. I have a 2000 4.7L CC Auto with 4X4. I ran a best time of 16.289 with just the jet stage II, 180 Degree t-stat, Z-Tube intake, and my stock exhaust with muffler removed, which hurts low end but above 3200rpm it just plain out pulls...I believe if i remember correctly that the QC weighs just as much as the CC or not much more..oh yeah mine has the 3.55 rear end w/ 31 inch tires....I actually raced one of those V8 Tacoma 4X4's(I think it was a Tacoma it was from toyota and had a V8 Symbol in the grill) it was pretty close but I still beat him, so Justin I really think you should up the ante alit bit...and let her rip
Tony
Oh yeah, find out if he has the S\C cause that just might give you a run for your money, errrr..his money...
"Just spank it"....A Civic you dirty boys you..
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JeffRedmond
Dodge Dakota
9/06/2001
15:10:33
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Justin,
Your 4.7L Quad 2x4 AUTO runs approximately 7.8 seconds in the 0-60 with the quarter mile at 16.0.
A 95 or 96 3.4L XtraCab 2x4 with MANUAL tranny runs approximately 7.8 seconds in the 0-60 with the quarter mile at 16.0.
A 98 xtracab 3.4L 2x4 runs closer to 9 seconds for its 0-60.
Stock to stock you will be even. Remember two things: he has to shift and you have some aftermarket stuff. Assuming you didn't lose any performance when adding the aftermarket equipment to your truck, you will beat him. Unless he drives for NASCAR during the weekends, even then you both will be equal.
Teach him a dakota lesson he won't forget.
Smoke his yoda for us, will ya?
Thanks and have fun watching him in your rear view. :-)
Jeff
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Badass tacoma
Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
14:16:54
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I ran my tacoma at a 1/4th mile where i live and it doesn't run 17's like the guy earlier said, i ran a 15.7 and all together (6 runs) averaged it was about 16 avg, (it's a 4x4 TRD) with exhaust some 34" tires and a little few things under the hood, but if his is stock then you would prob beat it. Don't underestimate a v6 though
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Skeletor
Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
14:42:33
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That was months ago, did you race?
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Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
16:49:23
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I got smoked by my brothers S-runner! We
were even until about 60mph, and then he
started pullin away. One word for the wise,
dont pull up next to an S-runner, expecting to
win easily, you better have a pretty heavy
modded 4.7 to beat it, and even if you beat it to
98mph, those tacomas are governed at 120!
and to put the icing on the cake, he told me
hes gonna get the TRD supercharger :( So
much for brotherly love!
D
01/4.7/CC3.55/airaid/Dynomax3"/TBspacer/
180stat/JetStage2/DJMdrop3-6/pegleg :(
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Crusty
Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
17:07:36
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S-runners are 2 wheel drive, so hes got about 500 less pounds if not more on you. Otherwise you might have won.
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Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
22:58:11
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yup, and about 35 hp less...so what gives?
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Travis
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
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I have a 00' CC 4X4 w/4.7 Auto. My buddy has the V6 Taco, and we were on a long hill here in Washington state, my truck was stock only a few months old, and he hit third and must have reved it to 6 or 7, I had the Dakota to the floor, and I was barely pulling, those things are damn quick for being 6's, I had an all new respect for it, but I can take him off the line though. Remember if he misses one gear, or shifts a second late, he is toast.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
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I got a Dodge for those Taco's to fear. Compare a stock RC 2WD 5 speed Taco time to a Stock 2WD 4.7 RC 5 speed and see who wins.
apples to apples.
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Anthony
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
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YOU GUYS ARE ALL ON DRUGS. you will smoke that v-6 with out even trying. come on guys the dakotas got a twin cam, not to mention a V-8. not no 6. there is no way in hell that guy will beat you unless your running on 6 cylinders. That 4.7 is almost as fast as an R/T. remember I said almost so dont push your luck.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
21:24:53
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I have a 4.7 that's a little better than almost as fast.
I smell a troll trying stir shi.. up.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
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YEAH! An idea for a licence plate...
"TACOETR"
I thought it was better than "TRDETR"..
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Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
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U8MYTCO
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BLK00DAK
Dodge Dakota
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1/18/2002
17:37:18
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Hey guys, not to be a magazine racer or anything but for what it's worth Motor Trend got a 7.4 0-60 and 15.8@86mph out of a 2000, 4.7, Auto, 3.55, Dakota Quad-Cab.
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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1/18/2002
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I normally frown on any type of street racing, but you guys are gonna do it on the track so I'm interested to see who wins this one.
Personally I'd be more more concerned about how her father will act if you win. he sounds kind of childish.
You could go by the old adage, 'Discretion is the better part of valor' and just do like most of the guys in the high dollar sports cars do and not race him. That would really frustrate him. What does youre girl think of all this.
Dont underestimate the 6, and remember the imports are geared really good.
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Badass Tacoma
Dodge Dakota
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1/21/2002
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Actually v6 TACO's have a quad cam 24valve v6, stock (without the TRD package) they have 190hp, with all my addons probably add around 30hp's, a little v6 taco with 220hp's is pretty nice, that doesn't include the fact that my TACO is a TRD if the TRD package adds anymore hp's then who knows what I have, think about it a 2600lb Taco cranking out 10 less hps than the 3400lb+ dakota, you got 10 more horses and 800lbs more weight, but that's only the regular cab, I dont know how much your truck weighs. I agree with Chris W, if her father beats you he sounds like the type of guy who would love rubbing it in, and letting all the coworkers know that he beat you. If his truck is unmodified and no TRD they you prob got him beat. I raced an extended cab Dakota Sport saturday with a V8 on it and it didn't hang, i had him from the start till I decided i was going fast enough. Have fun and don't wreck your Dakota
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Vanman
Dodge Dakota
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1/22/2002
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I have a 4.7 v8 2wd auto and i also have a Dodge Grand Caravan with 217 hp at the wheels that weighs alot more then any Taco. I know i am faster then any stock V6 Taco in either of my Cars. You should have no problem beating the Tacoma.
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