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8/12/2007
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8/12/2007
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Off topic please...

Oh yeah, learn to use the correctly spelled word in the proper place. "sea"? Sheesh!



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8/12/2007
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I won't to get pepole to know the Lord.

Praize the Lord



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8/12/2007
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We want (not won't) you to complete your education before you submit to that kind of brainwashing; so you can learn to think for yourself. It's also praise, not praize. Before you can sway folks to your beliefs, you must learn to express yourself inteligently. Your posts are obnoxious enough in the off topic section, without you also posting that kind of crap here on the Dakota prformance section. Do you think my Dakota will get increased performance through prayer ? If so, you're even dumber than we thought. Someday,perhaps you'll learn that all religions were invented by men, including yours.



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8/17/2007
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You might want to try spell check as well.
Also check the punctuation.
Man created religion. God created Man!!!



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8/17/2007
14:14:02

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Are you guys kidding me? I thought the notion of god or some supreme being went out with the idea of Santa.

Science was created before religion. If it were not for science, we would still be in the bush running around butt naked. Even Chimps use science.

Oh yeah, your "holy bible" was put together by a fascist group of bishops lead by Constantine back around 300 A.D. when he took a bunch of scattered scriptures and fabricated a book to help control the masses. Then he killed or banished all bishops who opposed his idea. Great way to start a lie!

Christianity is as big a joke as the Mormon religion.

See you in hell!

Which was also something created by the Roman Catholic church in dark ages and not found in any of the old testament.

I love people who tout their religion but know nothing about it but what they're told by some jack ass at a podium on Sunday!





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8/17/2007
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I think your science teacher or L. Ron Hubbard taught you and Tom Cruise History



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8/17/2007
16:29:52

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Are you that stupid that you think scientology and science are the same thing? Personnaly, I don't think that alien spirits are controlling are minds. THATS SCIENTOLOGY DUMB ASS!!

Science however, deals with reality. And if you doubt me, check out the big bang theory. There is physical evidence of the big bang right now on your radio. So you can't say that it never happened or its just some stupid theory. God is a stupid theory thought up by those too ignorant to even try contemplating the universe and what it really is.

I know alot about science AND religion. How much do you know about science? I'm guessing not much if you have doubts about my previous post. All of that was factual. Unlike the perverted version of a book that has no real definition and relies on how its interpreted for you people to decide how to run your lives.

The sad thing is that without the bible and god's teachings, you people would have no reason to be decent human beings.

Now where is the physical evidence for god?





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8/17/2007
17:27:38

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You totally forgot to mention the thousands of Christians slaughtered by the Romans long before Constantine was ever thought of. You also forgot to mention the thousands of Christians slaughered by the Muslims afterwards. You forgot to mention how much of the Bible has been factually proven. You knowledge of science just amazes me. I bet you have 80 hours of History Channel and Discover Channel University credits to your name. Tell me Bill Nye, what does the infinitely dense point of matter consist of that started the big bang. What caused the reaction that caused the expansion. Tell me when and where the expansion ends. I believe something greater than your or my infinitesimal mind can comprehend what caused all this. I believe it was God. So go ahead with your Godless life and I hope and pray you discover all truths before you die. Then it will be too late.




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8/17/2007
17:57:50

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What the hell does a bunch of dead christians have to do with what I said. I'm glad you remembered that more lives have been lost in this world due to religion than any other cause.

And you got it wrong. The universe was created by two other universes rubbing together and spawning this one. Maybe YOU should watch the science channel more often. Or at least research this universes beginnings. It's obviously more intricate than that but I don't feel like writing you an essay about it.

Oh yeah, the bible has been proven so many times over. PROVEN PLAIGARISM!

That stupid story of Noah and his retarded raft that saved the world is completely impossible due to the fact that all animals would've been inbred to the point of extinction by now.
And the fact that it is an obvious rip off of the story of Gilgamesh.

If your not familiar with him. He was around during the time of the Sumerians, who were around long before any Jew or pyramid graced this planet. AND ITS THE SAME STORY AS NOAH'S!

So tell me, what else has been factually proven by the bible. And I'm not talking about history related items that are shown in other books. I want to see some supernatural events that are factually proven.

And where the hell are dinosaurs and cavemen in the bible? I've not seen anything in there about that, but if it was divinely written, shouldn't god have told us about them?

And please explain the development of hell because it was never written in the old testament. Did god come up with that idea later on just to scare us?

Oh yeah, and every single atom of your body ws created in the sun, except hydrogen of course, how does that factor into god's great plan?

And the fact that we have proven that the universe is about 13.5 billion years old. Doesn't god say the earth is only like 7000 years old. THAT JUST DON'T COMPUTE MAN!!

Look at you, a judgemental christian who cannot accept the view of anyone elses but theirs. How predictable. Just keep your religion to your self and stop trying to ruin and rule the world with it.



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8/17/2007
18:13:57

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Damn you all are going to hell! lol



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8/17/2007
18:15:18

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In a handbasket just like me! lol



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8/17/2007
18:26:49

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You wanna race there and see who wins? :)



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8/17/2007
19:06:13

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You can't explain the big big bang therory because you have no grasp, other than what you have seen on TV. Answer my questions and I'll answer yours. And your totally wrong on your two universe collision therory. I would suggest you READ up just a little more. You remind me me of the old saying if you can't dazzle them with brillance, baffle them with BS. That is all I have read in your posts. Any essay you write would be in the science fiction section of any reputable library.



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8/17/2007
20:24:41

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An excerpt from Wikipedia:

The discovery of the CMB in 1964 led to general acceptance among physicists that the Big Bang is the best model for the origin and evolution of the universe.

Now tell me what grasp do you have on the subject?
It appears you have none because you've stated none. You have not even attempted to answer my questions in a vain act to ignore them like you do reality. Too proud to question your own faith? God doesn't like pride.

Now, where are the dinosaurs? Who or what came up with this hell I'm going too? How do we know how old the universe is? Why does Noah's canoe trip sound just like Gilgamesh's?

The funny thing is, after all that I have said, and after the little that you have said, the only thing you have argued is the big bang theory. Is that really the best you have? Can you argue any of my other points or am I right about them? Wait, now I get it, your using to use the big bang theory as a crutch to validate your religion's existence aren't you?








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8/17/2007
21:23:59

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You still haven't answered my questions and I asked first. Your the one is his blinded by what ever crap you have heard from your teachers TV or whatever. You accept it as fact. Everything you've mentioned concerning the orgin of the universe is Theory. It cannot be proven. I've always had an open mind, and my faith and beliefs were not conveyed to me by anyone behind any podium, including my professors. It's FAITH. I can't prove it either, but I have it. You should try it. I don't attend a church, synagogue, temple, shrine, or mosque. But I know in my heart that there is a God and he created everything by his own method, beyond anyones comprehension. Your views classify humans and all life for that matter as a virus, and I believe there is more to life than that.



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8/17/2007
22:15:20

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Your right, no one can explain what happened a few trillionths of a second before the big bang. But we do know what happened, and why it happened, from then until now. There are you happy. It's more of an explanation for existence than what you have proposed. Which is nothing at this point.

So far you have given no support to your argument proving god and like all of the followers, you rely on "faith" as your excuse for believing a fairy tale.

Ball's in your court. Can you provide an answer to anything else I have said, or is your entire faith based entirely on the fact that there was no "Big Bang"?



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8/17/2007
22:33:15

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Prove it



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8/18/2007
07:30:35

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Science Major first claims things in the bible have been proven; then later, posting as "nor have you" says the bible must be taken as faith. That's because nothing in the bible has ever been proven ! Maybe Science Major should try a course in philosophy, to understand why these statements are at odds with each other, and prevent his presentation of a logical argument !



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8/18/2007
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Mathematical formula supports the model. But the key word is "model". It can't be proven. It's really their best logical guess as to what happened, and the mathematics to support THEIR "therory". Until physicists can identify all the elements, the cause of the reaction, itself, the role gravity played into it, the "big bang model" will stay just what it is: A "therory". You don't know why, and that, it supposedly happened because it cannot be proven. It's kind of like the existance of God would't you say? The only thing that can be proven is the expansion itself. Nothing as to the cause or rate. You put your faith in man who has been proven time and time again as flawed. And always will be. There is nothing illogical about my argument. Give it 25 years and there will be a new therory on the table to debate just as we have here. I guess I will agree to disagree with you. I'm finished. BTW there is a Santa Claus. I saw him in the mall last December.



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8/18/2007
14:45:34

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Your god is also just a theory, or model if you will. But your theory has no proof or logic what so ever.

All evidence of your faith is based on books written by men. How well do you know the men who wrote the bible? Were they worldly men with vast amounts of knowledge and understanding. This I highly doubt. Anything idea from man can be wrong. We were wrong about phlogiston, Zeus and the other multitude of gods that supposedly made our world go round. We were wrong about the earth being flat as well, but do you think after all of the misconceptions we've had throughout time that the bible and the idea for your perversion of the Jewish religion is the only thing the human race was right about? Or do you really believe that the bible was written by god and not men?







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