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bbcdon
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5/10/2006
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I had my 06 4.7 installed with a Jet Performance Stage 1 chip & K&N 63 series air intake system yesterday. Boy, did it wake the engine up. The noise when you get on it is really cool, sounds like the older cars with the 4 barrel carburetor. Am really pleased. I also just ordered new JBA silver coated headers from summit racing. I hope they make a diference, especially for $729.
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4.7 owner
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5/14/2006
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What an idiot.
Dyno before and after what you're doing, then throw the money up, straight up on a real windy day, you'll get the same dyno results as the mods you mentioned.
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bbcdon
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2006
13:54:18
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I don't need a dyno to tell the difference. Being a former drag racer, I can tell you it DEFINITELY is putting out significant more hp!
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Mikey
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5/15/2006
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bbcdon
From what I have been hearing, the Jet stage 1 chip will only make a difference until the computer "sees" that it is there and then it will learn to work around or bypass the chip.
That is only my opinion so feel free to ask around some more.
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bbcdon
Dodge Dakota
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5/15/2006
21:57:30
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Hey 4.7 owner, you are an ass!!!! And as far as the stage 1 chip is concerned, I don't think jet performance would be able to still sell the chips if they didn't work.
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bbcdon
Dodge Dakota
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5/15/2006
22:02:09
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Another thing 4.7 owner, do you offer negative comments because you cannot afford to purchase these aftermarket products??????
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david ledford
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5/29/2006
01:16:44
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here i go again, my 02 r/t, accordin to previous owner has a hypertech programmed in, no one knows where the control thing is, lost or whatever, mine is very fast, an like the guy mentioned, very 4 barrell loud sound, man it pulls hard, how do i know for sure its got that program, an which one, anybody know what would go on this 02 r/t, an make it mostly want premium, thats all previous owner ever ran, an yes it did rattle a bit with regular racetrac or whatever unleaded, we thought it would run good on this, he said no dont do that, is programed with extra timin or this an that , also with kan n, he says it should have bout 23 horsepower over stock, says also cam is polished, i never heard of that, but truck is definately faster than 2000 model i had back then, louder when gassed, lotta torgue,, help again,, thanx.
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4.7 owner
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5/29/2006
06:25:16
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bbcdon,
Sorry about calling you an idiot, but,
Go to the Yahoo, Dodgedakota search engine, and look it up for yourself.
NO one, and I mean no one, has posted a before and after dyno, with the K&N, that got anything near what K&N says you'll get.
As far as the Jet chip is concerned, well, as I said, look it up. After my HO cams and other things, my Superchips (the only one that dynos a gain on an earlier 4.7), gained less than 10hp, max. I don't think they make one for yours, yet anyway.
If your 'drag racer' mentality is right, then put up with a before and after dyno.
You didn't get squat. Take off your clutch/fan, it'll dyno as much, if not more than your Jet Chip.
People that have been around the 4.7 awhile, are ROTFL at your comments of a jet chip. Maybe yours had the death flash, than it might get it back to near stock output. What's that, what's the death flash?
Save yourself, and your family alot of money, and read thru the archives on performance upgrades on the 4.7, using objective data. Butt dynos (feel), are NOT accurate. You changed the sound, hope is was worth it.
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bbcdon
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5/31/2006
19:37:00
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Why would I want to take the fan clutch off? It does have a purpose. And as far as what you or anyone else thinks, the chip and intake made a hell of a difference, so kiss my ass loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bbcdon
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5/31/2006
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And also as far as the dyno results on the k&n intake, I doubt that anyone other than k&n took their engine out and measured flywheel horsepower!!!!!!!
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david ledford
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5/31/2006
21:54:26
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well if it wasnt for bad luck, now computer finally went thru its cycle, car,, truck runs good but i have 2 codes, but a fellow at good year is gonna check em out for free, an they said yes they can find exactly what it iscodes are,, 0442 and 0432, previous owner said he put duals from cat back, and flowmaster i think less than 6 months ago, man i hope it aint nuthin big, an expesive, these good lookin fast mopars sometimes seem like a jinx, but thats all weve had drove an raced for years, is mopar the worst about tearin up, or what is it, our intrepid sxt, 04 model, after bout 6 weeks, cam position senser went out, got it fixed quick, had bout 55000 miles on it, over 200 bucks at least for that, but has been good very fast machine since then, 3.5 with around 250 hoarse powder,, hahaha, somebody tell me, do toyotas, chevys fords etc, do you know are they bad as mopars about repairs,, talk to me,.
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Eric
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6/02/2006
11:32:25
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I have SEEN several dyno results before & after intake AND before & after jet chip. Each mod resulted in LESS THAN 4%. The two together actually showed less than 5% in a couple cases. There are too many other restrictions with this powerplant to have an intake and chip do anything appreciable.
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4.7 owner
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6/10/2006
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Dynos' are done at the rear wheel in car/truck owner cases.
You can estimate flywheel, from an accurate % drive train loss. Which has been reliably estimated by Factories dynoing motor, then vehicle with various drive train set ups.
As I said, how much did the new sound of your dak cost?
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bbcdon
Dodge Dakota
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6/12/2006
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Like I said, K&N measured hp at the flywheel instead of on the ground, which is inefficient due to drivetrain drag. Believe me, K&N has the financial resources to get a TRUE hp reading, instead of mathematical calculations. And by the way, my dakota does sound good, and it RUNS good also. Sorry you are jealous because you apparently do not have the $$$ to spend on aftermarket items. Have a nice day!!!
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4.7 owner
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6/12/2006
18:16:18
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hey bb,
You sure are kinda funny.
I HAD a post that I just deleted. It's really not worth it, this online bickering I mean.
Spend what ever you want, on what ever you want, and enjoy yourself.
Good day dude.
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Kowalski
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6/13/2006
16:25:30
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Guys - measuring a Dyno at the ground for purposes of comparison is just as valid as measuring at the flywheel - the important thing to remember is to use the same machine at similar atmospheric conditions for valid comparisons...
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Mr.Sleepy
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6/27/2006
20:39:13
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I've owned a 4.7 Stage 1 chip for 4 years now, it does make a difference.
Basically the truck sucks a lot more gas with the chip than without it. Almost a 3 mpg difference highway. Also the shift points are slightly different. The engine gains a lot more low end torque and hp, enough to squeel the tires. Without the chip, my truck can only chirp the tires.
There is a difference, depending on your setup, it could vary from person to person, but a lot of performance shops in my area recommend a chip over nothing at all.
But a chip is around $200 or more, and if I had to choose again, I would have ponied up a few extra coins to get a programmer since they seem to be worth it.
Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.
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BADEARN
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7/08/2006
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I HAVE A JET CHIP FOR MY 2004 DAKOTA I NOTICE ALITTLE MORE POWER IN THE BOTTOM END AND A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN THE MIDRANGE IVE ALSO DONE OTHERR MODS BEFORE YOU TRY TO GET YOUR NEW 06 TO RAM MORE AIR DOWN THE INTAKE MAYBE YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT PUTTING ON A HIGH FLOW CATBACK EXHAUST BECAUSE THE INTAKE ITSELF WILL DO NOTHING ALOT OF THESE UPGRADES WORK WHEN YOU DO SEVERAL THINGS AND BY THE WAY I AM GETTING RID OF MY JET CHIP FOR A HYPERTECH PROGRAMMABLE CHIP SO INSTEAD OF JUST LISTENING TO WHAT THE OTHER GUY HAS TOLD YOU INSTEAD OF SHOOTING YOUR MOUTH OFF GOOD DAY GOOF
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bbcdon
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2006
11:03:32
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Just to let you know, I took all 3 of the stock mufflers and resonators off and installed a 40 series flowmaster. Also, for your information, I installed JBA tuned headers to help the car breath. I am quite aware that the whole system has to breath freely to appreciate the upgrades. Now, you have a nice day BADEARN!
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reality
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2006
14:50:58
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Those "resonators" were catalytic converters.
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bbcdon
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7/09/2006
20:17:24
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I don't think so pal. The catylitic converters are up near the collector just below the headers. Both sides have one. I don't know which year you have, but mine had 2 resonators, 1 muffler, and 2 catylitic converters.
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