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clayton bear
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5/03/2005
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It is about time to swap motors in my 2000 dakota. I am leaning to a 5.7 hemi. Has anyone seen or heard of anyone doing it. The diminsions will fit with slight mods to the engine mount. Any advice let me know. It will be a great weekend project.
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c.b.
2000 dakota 4x4
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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5/03/2005
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A weekend project? If you have to ask questions about it, it will likely take the better part of the summer, that's assuming that you have a chance of success. At the very least you will be fabricating your own headers, because the stock exhaust is just one of the areas of interference. It seems that moving it forwar two to three inches would improve the chances of success and then oil pan clearance becomes a problem. Now add a custom made oil pan and pickup to the headers.
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pete
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5/03/2005
14:21:53
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im all about people doing cool stuff to their vehicles... but -im swapping 360 for 360 in my dakota at the moment, and its kicking my arse. i dont have to fabricate a damn thing... and its a pain in the mothertruckin butt. im on day 4 --constantly running to the store, new bolts, a tool that i didnt have, washers, paint, etc etc etc etc... its a biatch dude.
id suppose youre gonna have to find yourself a donor truck, and take the motor/tranny/wiring/ out of it. ya basically gotta fool the computer that the 5.7 is in what its supposed to be in.
why do you want an over rated 5.7 anyways?... for the time/money/effort - you could put a built 4.7/5.9 in that pig and be light years ahead.
pete
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N56629
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5/03/2005
15:33:54
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"why do you want an over rated 5.7 anyways?... for the time/money/effort - you could put a built 4.7/5.9 in that pig and be light years ahead. "
But you still can say - It's got a Hemi.
If you can do it, more power to ya. It would be worth all the ooohs and ahhhhs.
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clayton bear
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5/03/2005
15:44:59
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Yes I can say I have a hemi, and that is the purpose. Money is not the object, its the joy. Yes I can do it in a weekend. Just have to find the right weekend to do it in. Really busy right now with work. Way to much O.T. Anyways, it helps that my brother, dad and uncle are master cerfifed ase mechs. and my best friends dad owns a machine shop, and My girlfriends dad does custom fabrications, so the issue wont be if it can be done, but when. I was just asking for upfront advice not sarcasim. I take everyone's opionion seriousely, so if you have concerns i would like to hear them. I am sure i have not thought of everything and thats what I want to know. Oil pan clearence already took care of...
Oh there is more potentional to 5.7 hemi, then ever a 5.9 or 4.7. Who said i am going efi???
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um
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5/03/2005
21:25:32
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Where do you people all live that does these swaps and don't have to worry about smog laws? I need to move by you.
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pete
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5/04/2005
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"ya, its got a hemi".... "who says im going eft"
im just gonna chalk this one up as yet another swap topic thats never gonna get done.
...ever
pete
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clayton bear
Dodge Dakota
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5/04/2005
05:07:00
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indiana has no smog laws unless you live near a big metro area....hey that is cool..chalk it up buddy....it is funny people get jelous and get so negative when they are to afraid, or just cant do a swap that everyone dreams about...maybe i should drive your litle v6.... at least i would get better gas mileage. when i used to build street cars, everyone said i could not make a mx6 break 11 secs...its a shame i have slips that read 10.12 on the quarter...but hey what the hell do i know.... i cant possible fit a small block in a dakota...what about those v10 dakotas we see...or at least i see......
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N56629
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5/04/2005
06:35:15
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" i cant possible fit a small block in a dakota...what about those v10 dakotas we see...or at least i see...... "
Yes, you see v10's in Dakotas and 5.7's in a number of other vehicles, but no one seems to have built a single Dakota with a Hemi. I'm sure there is a reason but darned if I know what it would be.
Some how I doubt that we will be seeing one here anytime soon.
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gen1dak
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5/04/2005
12:03:43
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Hey Pete, what's the 411 on your swap? Just wondering. Hotter 360? What year Dak?
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IntenseDak39
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5/04/2005
12:05:47
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i put a motor in my truck that isnt suppose to be there... it took me only a weekend to get the motor in there.
But 8 months for the total project... getting the motor in is probably the smallest detail.
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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5/04/2005
13:07:11
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I put a motor in my truck in about 3 mins. Then I drove home and had it out in one minute. I just pushed it off the tailgate and I was done. Total time put it in and taking it out was less then five minutes.
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IntenseDak39
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5/04/2005
13:31:11
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not bad... not bad
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pete
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5/04/2005
13:53:58
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<<<<<<"Hey Pete, what's the 411 on your swap? Just wondering. Hotter 360? What year Dak?">>>>
well, its day 5 now since i first started pulling the old motor. dropped the new one in the next day. juuuust about there. as i said theres a bunch of misc gremlins i gotta take care of before i fire her up. i only get a few hours per day to work on it, i just plug away little by little all week. she'll definately be running saturday.
didnt go all out with it, becaues of cost reasons. but it is a brand spankin new crate short block, 1.92 heads, 1.7 RR's, m1 2bbl, 52mm tb, pph coated headers, etc etc etc...
here's some pics:
http://www.socaldakota.com/gallery/customerrides/Pete/Engines/index.html
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pete
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5/04/2005
13:55:12
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its a 99 btw
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pete
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""""""" cool..chalk it up buddy....it is funny people get jelous and get so negative when they are to afraid, or just cant do a swap that everyone dreams about..."""""""
oh dont worry-- consider it chalked.
jealous of a pipe dream?- LOL ..nah. i like to keep my head out of the clouds.
and youre right, i couldnt do that swap. i have enough irritations with my own at the moment.
"""""maybe i should drive your litle v6.... at least i would get better gas mileage."""""
i definately do not have a v6. now youre just sounding like an idiot.
"""""" when i used to build street cars, everyone said i could not make a mx6 break 11 secs...its a shame i have slips that read 10.12 on the quarter...""""""""
blah blah -- and?. whats your point?
"""""""what about those v10 dakotas we see...or at least i see...... """""""
they're around. never met one on the net though. probable cuz their too busy, gettin busy and are spending less time measuring their peepee against people they dont know
have a great day
pete
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clayton bear
Dodge Dakota
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5/04/2005
19:07:14
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Pete
I dont measure my penis, ( i think a man should never say peepee, but hey whatever) my girlfriend tells me its just fine. I was replying about the mx6 because there is always those arogant people that think it cant be done. oh by the way there is less mods that have to be done then you think. smaller block then the 5.9. just bigger top half.
you dont like the hemi, good, more power to you, i do recall it is my truck and not yours. you still feel impowered to show your negativity, go ahead, i really dont care. you
sound just like my xwife (now i remember why i divorced her) thanks for the reminder.
so petey boy thanks for all your concerns about my "pipe dream" .
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Jeffster
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5/05/2005
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LMAO!! I love this tread. BTW make sure you post some pic's of the swap once it's done. Don't forget a full wiring harness'PCM,possibly all new instruments, transmission and mabye even drive shaft. Basically taking a ram and putting it on a Dakota chassis.
I thought I had a big project, started fabricating the ducting for a remote mounted turbo (under the passenger) on a 4.7L HO today.
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pete
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5/05/2005
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clayton:
i have zero first hand experiance in this.. but the hemi ive read is wider, and absolutely will not fit within the frame rails (torch and shoehorns aside)
it has absolutely nothing to do with arrogance, its called reality. i applaud your effort... now stfu and get started already if its really not that big of a task for you, 'the mx6 king.'
me reminding you about your xwife means your subconsious has related you and i in marriage. where i come from, we call that a fag.
add the fact that you basically advertised your penis to me, size of which endorsed by your significat other. thats strike two. 3 and youre out bud...
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iLUVfatCHICKS
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5/05/2005
06:25:14
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forget pics of the truck, send one of your girl friend, is she a fat chick, cause i love fat chicks. especially those who can fornicate, i mean fabricate.. lay off the guy pete, you should see the fat chicks i can squeeze in the back of my cc. and they said that couldnt be done. i love fat chicks. good luck with the swap.
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gen1dak
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5/05/2005
11:38:56
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I wouldn't even bother with OEM instrumentation. Use F.A.S.T electronics for the injection, or go carb, and use aftermarket instrumentation. It'd cost more, but with the Hemi already at a premium price, what's a few hundred more for the easier application, instead of trying to decipher the OEM stuff. It'll fit. It's only the heads that are wider, and there's plenty of room for them. Remember, this thing fits a low-hoodline 300C, and the new Jeep Grand Cherokee. It's not bigger than a 440 or 426 Hemi, and there have been numerous transplants of these big blocks, so the 5.7 will easily fit.
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