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Matt Buckner
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2/12/2005
00:29:57

Subject: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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I'm thinking of installing a K&N Gen 2 intake system on my 04 4.7L CC Dak. I have heard mixed reviews. What gains (if any) should I expect for$250.00?
Any advice appreciated
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Matt Buckner



walt
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2/12/2005
08:50:54

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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try macperformance.com thats where i got my intake for $199 its stainless steel and it looks really good.. i dont like k&n becouse they are plastic.. they dont look good and you could make something at home that would perform just like a k&n intake.. and watch for 04 intakes they moved the iat sensor out of the manifold into the intake tube! i had to drill a 5/8" hole into my intake and get a grommet to hold it in place



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2/12/2005
08:59:02

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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and also you can really tell the differance when you install an intake performs well a little noisy but kinda cool.. the plastic intakes are expose to be more cold air frindly but if you want it to look really good buy stainless.. if not make it youself and it would prob. still look alright



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2/12/2005
19:29:30

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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Matt.
Save your money, keep your stock intake, and just get the drop-in K&N filter.
Much cheaper and same gains.



TexasTodd
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2/12/2005
19:59:25

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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Or you could get that stainless thingy, which sould absorb more heat, heating the air slightly on the intake.

But of course, like walt says, you could drive around town with your hood off, so people could see your cheesy stainless intake, with the slightly reduced performance of pre heated air.

Or make a homebrew, for next to nothing.



TexasTodd
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2/12/2005
20:00:47

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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Sorry about some of the sarcasm of that last post, but how often do you lift your hood?



walt
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2/12/2005
20:40:24

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dang thats just cruel tex thats alright i think im gonna take my hood off to compansate for my lack of cold air so i can show of my intake that should give me atleast 5hp and some serious downforce! truck series here i come!! but seriously i doubt there really is much difference from a k&n to my stainless intake and mine was $50 dollars cheaper and very functional.. have fun with whatever you get!



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2/13/2005
01:09:56

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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Punctuation, Walt. Punctuation.
We'll work on spelling later.



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2/13/2005
07:44:56

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K&N took a while to develop the FIPK because it took them a while to come up with a design that showed an honest horsepower gain. Any of the homebrew guys dyno test their results to see how they really did ? I think only one other cold air intake manufacturer dynoed a gain, and that was in conjunction with a less restrictive exhaust. Should definitely see gains over just the K&N drop in filter.



TexasTodd
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2/13/2005
17:26:59

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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Walt, sorry for the sarcasm, and yes, your stainless one may flow just as well. My homebrew may also, but I did not dyno the before and after, so I really can't say.

Sorry 'bout trounching on your post

K&N finally posted some dyno's, it would be nice to see someone more independent get the same results, with their own before and after dyno.

I took my K&N drop in out of my home brew on one dyno, actually, so I didn't suck up any dirt in the bottom of my stock filter box, I rotated the the top as well. (dynoed with the hood up)

It got about a 1hp and 1 ftlb max gain at the wheels. It was when I was dynoing the new SC tuner for the 4.7-that's been posted.



John Keller
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2/14/2005
13:43:36

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K&N does have the horsepower gains to prove that thier stuff works, but I just cant see spending that much on a plastic intake.



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2/15/2005
13:42:27

RE: Fipk advice for 04-4.7L
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If you want cooler air, make a tunnel ram setup (drawing air from the front grill of the truck). Then, if you haven't already done so, move your IAT sensor to the front of the airstream as well...

True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
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TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
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One dead stock LSD unit (POS...)

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