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TexasTodd
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1/14/2005
17:59:55

Subject: RE: 4.7L Superchips Tuner Ouch
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Mr. What,

I agree, but going past the rev limit, without some head work, and cams for that range, just isn't necessary. It's making some power but

At 5,500 rpm, it lost about 50hp, and 125ft/lbs of torque from the peak, at the wheels.

With my manual, I started to shift at about 5,000-5500
again when I'm trying to go max, and it feels pretty good.



GraphiteDak
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1/15/2005
00:34:19

RE: 4.7L Superchips Tuner Ouch
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When I hit my rev limiter mine is STILL pulling strong. I KNOW it has more left.

I've had some modded (cams, heads, etc) 302 Fords that I ran to 7K all day long. This engine should be no different.
And when I get my truck paid off I Do plan on pulling my HO cmas and going with the more agressive cam, new spings, and probably pistons by that point. The engine BETTER do 7k to 7,500 and be making power. But it would need some PCM work for that as well.
Once you haver a V8 that can be driven on the street revving to 7K, it's an awesome thing :-)
And it sounds GOOD.



ejonny
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1/16/2005
02:09:16

RE: 4.7L Superchips Tuner Ouch
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Geez, the hurtin' continues. Has anyone dealt with SoCal Motorsports before? They're the ones that I bought the Superchips tuner through on a group buy...it doesn't work and Superchips won't take it back for a reprogram without the receipt, which SoCal hasn't sent me. I've emailed and called and no one will respond. It's been almost a month now. I don't know what to do other than complain to Paypal (How I paid them) and try to send it back registered mail so that at least there's some indication that I tried to send it back. What a pain in the butt. Superchips says that as long as I put in a receit they've no problem reprogramming it, and paying for the mail costs both ways.



Angel B.
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1/16/2005
13:31:45

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Hey ejonny do you have Derrick or John's phone no? John is the one down @socal if you dont have the phone #'s shoot me an e-mail.

**Update** Fished running my dodge with the 87 Octane load and am going to program it with the 91 load and run premium (premium here is 93 octane they dont sell 91 octane)

"Hey android you should consider your self lucky to be able to have such good gas prices, ever been to California"?

Laters all

Black 2001 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab SLT Plus,Pace Edwards roll top, Cross Drilled Rotors/metal matrix pads/K&N Intake/




Pittdawg
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1/18/2005
18:55:55

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Angel B...what's the story, any mpg increase from the 87 program as compared to before the tuner? Maybe not cause you were getttin into it more but let me know.



TexasTodd
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1/18/2005
20:16:45

RE: 4.7L Superchips Tuner Ouch
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I ran over a tank on 89, using the perf. program from Superchips, in my 01 4.7, manual.

Even on this setting, I got slightly better, about 1-2 Mpg overall, highway trip, etc.

They never mailed me a receipt from the group buy either. This tuner gave me less than a 4% increase MAX, on 93, with the perf setting.

See my other posts.



Lurkin
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1/19/2005
09:25:52

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They sent receipts to the people who had to return the tuners to SC for the dreaded "reprogramming" problem. I received mine via email.



TexasTodd
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1/19/2005
18:27:45

RE: 4.7L Superchips Tuner Ouch
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I bought one, I'd like a reciept, I can still send it back under the 30 day trial. less than 4% max gain?

I hope someone's listening.



Lurkin
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1/20/2005
09:37:15

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The people who put on the SC Group Buy are not on this board. I'd start making calls before your 30 days are up...



jasonsdakota
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1/22/2005
23:06:59

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someone mentioned trying to get more rpm out of part throttle shifts. their truck bogs down. i want that on my truck too. try the tps mod. the computer thinks you have more gas on and shifts at a higher rpm. (i think that's the theory).



jeremiah2360
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1/23/2005
00:43:50

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I`ve posted about the part throttle shifts before. I wanted someone with stock tires and a tuner to program in the biggest tires to see if it changed shift points. I think the TPS mod is only for off idle response and not shifting(I could be wrong). When I first got the truck the mechanic at work hooked up a scanner and my TPS was at .63 anyway.

03 qc 4.7 auto 4x4 47k



GraphiteDak
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1/23/2005
11:15:11

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LISTENING.
Todd, are you trying to tell us to SAVE our $300 for somethiing else???

After all the excitement of FINALLY getting a programmer that would be a bummer.
Paybe the 4.7 just has some pretty descent factory tuning to start with?



Kowalski
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1/23/2005
17:37:35

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The factory tuning can definitely be improved on - the flash I got made a noticable difference. I think the manuals may come with more ignition advance from the factory; might not see as much gain for those with a manual tranny ? Anyone figure out how much advance you get from the tuner to compare to the flashes yet ?

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TexasTodd
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1/23/2005
18:24:57

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I think people should decide for themselves.
I just posted MY objective data, with MY mods and the SC, on 87 and 93 oct.
I'm still not sure. I agree it's the only thing so far, for $300, that has been shown to do anything. For me and my manual, it wasn't much, but it does do something, dyno proven.

Did you see that the power and Torque loss I had from the max to 5800? Mine still goes up there to, but I'd rather be in the next gear, putting out twice the torque of 6 grand.

And, I'm not sure what the timing advance is.

It seems I got about as much though, with slightly less mods, than someone with about the same mods, the KB opt 2 flash, AND a SHORT BELT bypassing the P/S, and A/C! I just don't know anymore.



Lurkin
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2/02/2005
08:40:49

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I finally got my tuner back from Superchips yesterday and it installed right. On the performance install options screens it specifically said "No rev limiter increase opt.".

Just to be sure, I checked. It started with 6100rpm before the tuner, and it was still 6100rpm after the tuner.

02 QC 4.7 auto AWD



Pittdawg
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2/02/2005
13:06:25

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TexasTodd...the tuners are meant for stock or near stock engines...for your engine you need a custom flash to see major gains...you changed camshafts, that is the heart of the engine and the programming needs to be tuned to the h.o. not the stock camshafts...the small amount of power your did get probably comes from the timing advance alone, but a custom flash would also opitimize the air fule ratio much better for you, I am in the same boat as you with similar mods but with an automatic, the programmer might be worth it in my case in terms of shift points and turning of tmr but i was hoping even modded engines would benefit more, thanks for posting your actual results.



Lurkin
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2/02/2005
15:22:28

RE: 4.7L Superchips Tuner Ouch
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Pittdawg, don't look for the Superchips to help on the auto's shift points, as they don't mess with the TCM at all. They do mod the TMR function, so if you haven't clipped the wire already, there is definitely some benefit from that.

I don't plan on dyno'ing (PITA and usually more expensive for an AWD), but I am waiting on a G-tech to arrive by Friday.



TexasTodd
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2/02/2005
18:00:37

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Hey Lurkin,

Speaking of g-techs, I'd like to check it out when you get it.

Let's git together soon!

Todd



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2/08/2005
16:29:59

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Hello and Help,
I'm not sure what is the most bang for the buck the Superchips 3715 or the Venom 400 Performance Control Module or any other power inhancer thats on the market, can someone please give me some pro's and con's feedback before I spend $$$$ on any system?

I have a 2001 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab, 4.7L, Auto Trans., AntiSpin Rearend.



android287
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2/08/2005
19:14:39

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The Venom 400 will do nothing.



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