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gen1dak
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4/07/2004
20:38:10

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Thanks, Buck. Just tryin' ta help the boy. Man, that B&M kit is tuff! Had one in a 727 in my Charger many years ago. That thing would just LEAP goin' into second. I beat a lot of cars I really shouldn't have because of that slam-bangin' tranny.



ken
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6/30/2004
13:26:34

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In another post someone said Mopar had a shift kit in there parts book, but when i went to my dodge dealer he said there was no such thing. Does anybody have the Mopar part# so i can do the job for the parts manager. Along with that my truck is a 4X4 with the 5.9, does anybody have any recommendations on what level of hard shift i should have installed(like the B&M kit)? I just want a normal shifting tranny and get rid of the slush box but dont want to pay for a little improvement when i can get closer to what i really want.



blackrtaz
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6/30/2004
19:49:30

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Very informative post guys...

This is what the "performance" board should consist of.



Wal
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7/01/2004
15:26:34

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what about these Transgo "Jr." shift kits I see on Ebay. What don't they offer that the regular kit does? I'm not looking to snap my neck and bark the 31's, I am just thinking that upgrading my trans now (at 96Kmi) might give me more time before the enevitable rebuild.

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gen1dak
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7/01/2004
19:50:36

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P5249640 for 1989-1994 A500 lockup.
P5249641 for 1990-1995 A518 lockup and non-lockup.
Looks like for later models, you'll have to get a TransGo kit.

The regular kit offers 3 levels of shift performance, and it covers all models. The "Jr" appears to be a mini-kit intended to address a problem area.....far from a complete kit.

Ken, I'd go with the HD level on a TransGo kit. B&M doesn't list kits for the 4-speed autos, or at least I've never seen any listed.



technobug
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7/02/2004
00:52:13

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I have a brand new in box transgo kit for sale. I will take $85 shipped to anywhere in the lower 48.



GraphiteDak
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7/02/2004
02:10:53

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My bro in law has the 46RE or whatever is behind the 318 in his 2000 Ram.
He bought a shift kit and it wasn;t too specific with the mods you had to do, mostly DRILLING in your seperator plate.

I've rebuilt and done shift kits in 904's, 727's, CHevy TH350's, 700R4's, Ford C4, etc. Those are all easy.
I don't remember what brand of a shift kit my bro in law bought for his 46RE but since it wasn't too specific on the proceedures, which seemed to vary on numberous different possabilities we decided to forget the shift kit on his.
Also remember if you really mod your tranny to slam them servos faster, you really need mods to blow off the fluid on the clutch packs that are disengaging as well. Bad thing that happens is some shift kits only enable the clutch packs to apply faster. While one clutch pack slams on, the other is not fast enough to disengage, causing some bind up while two clutch packs are actually engaged at the same time. That actually produces some of the jerk, but it's not really a good thing at all and the tranny will actually fail because of it.

Now interesting enough after I've had some uninterupted miles on my PCM since the cam swap, TB mod, etc I am starting to notice my 5-45RFE seems to sift pretty damn hard, and quick if you are under full throttle. It really jerks the truck on the 1st to 2nd gear shift. I could imagine it may be possible to bark the tires if I had a little more power.

At this point I feel no desire to mod my tranny. The ever so slight torque management with the sharp shift it has may possably extend the life of my tranny for some time to come.







McyMike
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7/02/2004
12:19:06

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Graf Dak - from your email I couldn't tell if you had any tranny mods on your auto five speed or not. If you did what did you do / buy. If it was all in the PCM, what did you have done. My 03 QC 4.7 4X4 shift like crap with the big lag at redline.

Mike



BIGTYMER
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7/06/2004
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I have a Superior shift kit in mine. Made by the same folks as Fairbanks... We also bumped the line pressure and shortened the throttle linkage a little. It holds gears and slams through them. A lot of times if your just accelerating real slow it'll sound like it's gonna rip the driveshaft out.



GraphiteDak
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7/06/2004
20:16:13

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McyMike my tranny and controlls are all stock.
I think that maybe with the little improvement just at redline with my cams, TB, etc that it just feels harder. Who knows but I'm happy with the shift and think it doesn;t need any mods now. It's softer at part throttle of course. But WOT at redline it shifts pretty good. I can definitley FEEL it.

Here's one sound sample taken from inside the truck kicking down into 1st and accelerating into 2nd.
http://www.paysonarizona.net/mp3's/DakSound_StompOnIt.mp3



FazDak
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7/07/2004
23:09:38

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And to add to all that........I have a "full shift kit" in my 340 Challenger that shifts pretty decently and I have a Mopar "shift improver kit" in my Dak that hits so hard feels like the bed will come off and thats only at about 1/2 throttle!

You can set either of the 2 kits up from RV to full strip, neither to my knowledge will ruin a trans by its design or lack there of.



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