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andrew
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3/13/2001
21:45:38

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I would like to know what the heck is the deal with all the lifted toyota's with the big honkin tires I see driving around town and on the trail. I am new to 4x4's and offroading and I may not know much but what advantages to offroading do they have over Dakotas. I have been in a few yotas and can tell you as far as power goes they're guttless. I hardly ever see any Dakotas around here that are very offroad worthy with a lift and big tires.



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3/13/2001
22:47:21

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Mine has done quite well with just 31's. But mark my words as soon as I have 2K I will get a 5.5" lift and 35" tires. And then when I get even more, I will get a 12,000lbs toyota saver. (hydrolic winch).

But I have not had a trouble at all. Infact I have spanked my friends Jeep on some hills behind our school in 2wd. :) Because I was to lazy to bend over and pop her into 4 wheel drive. She was built worthy. Toyotas, well they could use some power.

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7/03/2001
21:49:51

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Not meaning to sound smartassed or anything else but I've been off roading for the better part of thirty years and my current toyota with it's "big honkin'" 38's is over 250,000 miles and still going strong. My gas mileage is great and I personally have all the power I need to go most places I need. Fact is I've been to some pretty interesting places. The Olympic National Park in Washington to Rollins Pass in the Rockies, the deserts of southern Idaho to the swamps in Florida and the Snow of Marquette Michigan to the thick mud of Southwest Virginia. I have had the gas guzzling V-8's and never saw the need for that much power when crawling a mountain and hated feeding those beasts. If you want to fly by me, cool, I'll gladly pull over. I've gotta tell you, though, Too many times I fnd that guy later stuck, flipped,in a ditch or just making an ass out of himself. I guess it's just a "Big Honkin Tire" thing, you wouldn't understand. Ha Ha



mikex70x
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7/03/2001
22:12:16

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Not meaning to be a smart ass or anything but if you dont got a dakota why the hell are you here?



rEID tARDO
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7/03/2001
23:08:25

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Big honkin tires = Little tiny wee wee



andrew
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7/05/2001
03:46:15

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I see what you are saying David but the honest truth is, Toyotas suck! Pure and simple.



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7/05/2001
10:36:42

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Reasons for Toyotas(not that I would ever own one):

1. Solid front axle.
2. Yes they run 4 and 6 cylenders, but it is the gearing that counts.
3. Parts are cheaps and always available.
4. The engines are very dependable.
I am sure there are others but these are the main ones. Dakotas are great; I love mine. But, the aftermarket availability sucks and Mopar parts are outragously priced. It really doesn't matter what brand it is. If it has an IFS system, it sucks. Thats why the new Jeeps suck, that why the new rangers suck, and even the new Toys. It broke my heart when I heard they are putting IFS in the new 1/2Ton Rams.

Ron



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7/05/2001
10:51:55

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Talk about heart breakers. Is that true about the Jeeps (Wranglers)? No solid fron axle? I know you can get the Dana44 in the rear. But on a further note on Jeeps, you can pretty much kiss them good-bye in 2003. So much for the last off-roading vehicle. Highway Administration has stricte rules coming for 2004-5. Side airbags required, etc. etc. Might as well drive your couch. Fuck Big gov't man.



andrew
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7/05/2001
12:32:04

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What trucks/SUV's come with solid front axles these days?



Hawkeye
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7/05/2001
19:16:50

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Currently only the Jeep's and Grand Cherokee's.

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rEID tARDO
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7/06/2001
18:03:11

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Lets not forget the Ram



Hawkeye
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7/06/2001
18:58:58

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Yeah thats true, I was just thinking about the new models coming out that have IFS. Its a sad day for 4x4 trucks.

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Lattimer
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7/07/2001
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BTW, The Ford Super duty's still have solid axles too. The old technology isn't dead yet!



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7/07/2001
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Dang I forgot those too. Super duty's are more like tanks to me than a truck. That is one truck I would like to have, but $45,000 is just a little out of my price range.

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MikeC
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7/09/2001
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Aren't the RAM 2500 and 3500's gonna be left with them too after 2002? (Also kind of a big truck).



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10/29/2001
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i've got an 86 toyota with 8 inch lift and
35 inch tires. it goes anywhere. it would
out-do a dakota anyday. shorter wheelbase,
narrower wheelbase. oh yea. my toyota is
faster than your dakotas too. thats right,
its got a GM 350. so there! ha ha.



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10/29/2001
14:15:31

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whatever!




andrew
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10/29/2001
16:43:40

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I dont care how big your yota was or what size tires you had, I still hate toyotas and all other offroading imports. And On-roading imports too. I just plain hate imports, esspecially those really annoyoing ones that humm up the road like a bumble bee. Hot rod of the 90's? Yeah right, I'll take a loud, rude, "put up or shut up, you may win, but my american iron will eat your rice for dinner when its all over" muscle car! DOWN WITH IMPORTS!!! Maybe I'll start my own anti-import club. Didnt mean to get off subject here.



Kevin Moore
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10/30/2001
01:59:03

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Dude, you are retarted. I have a 4x4 dak and I love it, but you have to respect toyota. I have friends with toyota trucks that can do stuff my dakota could only dream of off road. If you have never driven one, maybe you should. New toyotas are build much better than american cars period. They last twice as long and break half as often. Oh yeah, than new Tundra V8 can spank a dakota V8. Times have changed since the small underpowered imports of the 1960's (honda cvcc), wake up man.

Kevin
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Hawkeye
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10/30/2001
07:08:54

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Sorry Kevin, got to disagree with you there. There has not been a Toy around that could ever hang with any of my Fords I have owned. Many tried. So far my Dak is continuing the same rought. I would take on a toy anytime. I have been in them as well. Not saying they arent good but I will NEVER say they are better by any means.

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andrew
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10/30/2001
10:32:56

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Oh kevin, pull your head outta you a$$, its called personal preference. I never said the daks are better at offroading than yotas, I said I dont like toyotas and all other imports. There is a difference. As far as the tundra thing, I think I'll wait to see some numbers as far as 1/4 mile times before I believe that one.



Kevin
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10/30/2001
15:11:06

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Yeah, toys are definately not fast in general, but the new V8 is sweet. Automobile Magazine said the 4x4 V8 does 0-60 in 7.9 sec. I am not rushing to the toyota dealership obviously. I respect your personal preferences, but now you can't say that the new ones are slow. That tacoma is pretty fast too, it pissed me off when a TRD V6 beat me, he had some mods done but so do I. It was a close call anyways.




andrew
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10/30/2001
21:24:12

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I know what you mean. My freind and I raced a QC Tacoma 2wd and got smoked. Pretty sure he had a sixer but we were in a brand new Altima with just a 4banger. I was almost sick, not because we got beat by a truck, but because my dak was in the shop and I was riding in rice.......but at least I was riding:)



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10/31/2001
13:58:56

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Each vehicle has its day. The history to the Toyota has a richer one cuz it is longer. My personal prefrance is a DAK even with the probs I have had with it. Toys are fun just not for me. Glad I don't have a v6. Their 4 banger is the only toy engine worth having.

Jay



PatH
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12/14/2001
03:13:51

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What is fun with ToyToys is really the after market and TRD. It has way more to offer than the products (or lack there of) for the newer (2000+) Dakotas.

Ever dreamed of a factory supercharger ?

Well TRD as one, pushes the 6 to 250HP and about the same for torque.

It all the same old story when it come for offroad and I have to agree with y22. Some days you wish you could turn tighter, be shorter, squeeze the truck to pass between.

All the other days, use the timberjack...

:o

PatH




CadetDak
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12/14/2001
12:48:28

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you know what people say oh I lave my toyota well i'll give you a reason to get the dakota. A few weeks ago I was out in my dak and got cut off while doing 70 on the freeway had to swerve around him and ended up rear ending a toyota tundra, thankfully I was proven to not be at fault. Cops estimated I was doing roughly 60 when I hit him and let me tell you my dak went right through his toy he ended in the hospital, he's ok thank god. But I walked away without a scratch. so that's my reason why daks are the best trucks ever. Cops said there was no way I should have walked away. As soon as I get to a scanner I'll post some pictures of the dakota.



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12/14/2001
12:50:53

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Glad you were ok! Poor dakota... :- (



CadetDak
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12/15/2001
01:31:56

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ok I posted pictures of the truck

they are at
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/nanook6666/lst?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.last=1

the one on the bottom is my baby before the wreak
and the two on the top is what she looked like once I got her home and got the fender and the bumper off.

you can't tell from the picture but the force of the impact tweaked the frame so the passenger side is five inches back from the driver side.

I have since acquired a new truck and, god willing, going to out fit it during x-mas break and willpost many pictures once done.



Hawkeye
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12/15/2001
07:26:08

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It says I have reached a restricted area.

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2THEXTRM
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12/15/2001
10:32:29

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Yeah, me too. Sounds Serious:)

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CadetDak
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12/15/2001
12:05:36

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ok here try this i think this one works

http://community.webshots.com/user/nanook6666

click on the truck pictures



Hawkeye
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12/15/2001
13:18:18

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That really sucks man. Glad your ok.

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4.7dak
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12/15/2001
14:39:02

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Ouch!



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12/15/2001
23:01:34

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That sucks bad, Nice pose with your Old Dak:) I am sure your New Dak will be even bigger and badder...

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