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2/26/2003
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Here is the link.

http://claycdbj.com/ranchoinstall.html

I do not have time to go into much of our conversation but I have allot of photo's to show most of it. To bad it was dark. For better photo's you'll just have to wait.

2thextreme, you seem to be next one to receive the lift.

Mine is already here and due for install Thursday and hope to test it out Saturday.

Chris

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2/26/2003
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Looks good, i hope to see yours in action on saturday...

i wish the bottom of my truck was that clean

kevin



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2/26/2003
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Nice job on the pics, especially being in the dark, enlightens a few things for me how it will look. I was worried that my modded nerf brackets would be in the way for the torsion crossmember drop down and it looks like it will be fine. Make sure you put up pics of yours when it's done too Chris:)

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2/26/2003
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Shame on you Kevin yours should be that clean!!! Mine is!

2THEXTRM,
As far as I understand your lift was shipped from Rancho on Friday. They have only shipped a few and they contacted James to tell him that they have to send him new brake lines since his shipped before I uess the right ones came in. So now the question is how do we know we have the right brake lines? They were to have shipped the rest with the right ones. Something about they were not inspected or something.

After seeing the lift I am no longer on the fence about installing it. I pick it up at the store after work today. It will be installed tomorrow and into Friday most likely.

I plan to wheel it this weekend as long as I get it back.

Chris

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2/26/2003
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I can only hope that my lift was shipped last Friday, if so and I get by this weekend, the install is on baby! Glad your feeling better about getting the lift and I can't wait to here the report on how it performed for you.

I hope we get the "new" brake lines in our kit so we don't have to back and swap them out again later.

I won't be able to mount my 35's until the weather gets better, at least another month or so, so I don't ruin the polished aluminum finish with salt and crap.

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Grizzly double/single rollbar with (6) Hella's, Manik Nerfs, Line-X, Hard Work & $$$$$$$$$$

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2/26/2003
12:58:36

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Heres the E-mail I received from Rancho on the brake lines:

I know you had contact with Melanie Eichmann from Rancho in the past and
you're the only one I know of who has actually installed one of our new
kits so far. We have just been made aware of a potential brake hose issue
in our initial shipment of the RS6560 / RS6560B / RS6561 / RS6561B kits and
I wanted to contact you personally to make sure you get taken care of ASAP.

Our first shipment of brake hoses was not certified by our vendor. In the
interest of safety we ask that you please return your Rancho brake hoses in
exchange for new certified brake hoses. Rancho will overnight ship you a
new set of certified brake hoses if you provide us with a shipping address.
Rancho asks that you please ship us back the uncertified set. A UPS call
tag will be provided for returning the old brake hoses.

FYI - Certified brake hoses will be identified by a small band around the
hose with the letters DOT on it.

When you get this please reply back with your shipping address. If you
have any questions, feel free to contact me.

----------------------------------------------
Ryan Strathearn
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Rancho Suspension


2THEXTRM, When I was talking to Rancho last week about the shipment of my kit, I was told that a member of our group buy who lived in New York would also be getting his kit shipped about the same time as mine. I don't want to get your hopes up too high, but since only 3-4 kits were ordered through the buy, theres good odds that that one is yours.




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2/26/2003
14:32:57

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Thanks James for the update, I'll be sure to check the brake lines for the DOT sticker before I install and I hope the NY kit was ME:)

What are your driving impression so far, ride, handling, etc?

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Grizzly double/single rollbar with (6) Hella's, Manik Nerfs, Line-X, Hard Work & $$$$$$$$$$

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2/26/2003
15:05:30

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So far I have only driven it about 25 miles and only about 5 of those after the alignment. I did notice that I have a much softer ride in the front though. Definately feels like it leans more in the curves. Since I adjusted the torsion bars down to normal after installing the lift, (they were maxed) im thinking that that may have reduced the tension/stiffness of the front ride.
I don't know if thats a mechanically sound theory, so if anyone has any thoughts on it, let me know.

I did order 4" blocks (Rancho only includes 2") as well as the Roadmaster Active Suspension kit, so I will probably turn the torsion bars up about 1.5" when I install them. Ill let you know if that stiffens up the front.



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2/26/2003
16:30:02

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Speaking of alignment, did it align OK? Having tbars down to the soft stock setting makes our Daks spongy and tippy IMO, that's prolly why ur having those side effects:) Start playing with your adjustable shocks yet? I was looking at the in-cab adjustment module from Rancho, but I heard it is not very dependable as far as the lines are concerned. Doesn't look to hard of an install although the price tag isn't that great. I'll prolly stick with adjusting it manually since it will likely stay at the setting I find is best for the tires and driving that I do.

Where did you order your 4" blocks from and how much? Did they include the longer u-bolts? I have the RAS ordered too and picked up some 3" blocks locally already after I heard that the kit only came with 2" blocks.

You think your front-end has enough torsion adjustment to level out after 4" block is installed? If so, I will prolly go for the 4" block too, I don't mind having my t-bars at 85-90% of max, they have been that way for almost a year now anyway with no ill effects so far:) BJ's and CV's are holding up well, but that could be because I don't really off-road that much, if I lived near you and Chris I would be wheeling my Dak every weekend with the crew!

Sorry for the barage of questions again. Bob.

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Grizzly double/single rollbar with (6) Hella's, Manik Nerfs, Line-X, Hard Work & $$$$$$$$$$

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2/26/2003
17:07:42

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Yeah, everything aligned just fine, which was definately something I had been worrying about. The adjustable shocks are great! This is my second set and I would definately recommend them. The in cab adjustment kit does look tempting, but I too am woried about the lines failing. (I know of one 4x4 shop that refuses to install them for this reason) Maybe someone on this board has it and could tell us more about it.

The reason I ordered the 4" block, is that my back end was already sagging a little, as I have had 2" blocks for quite a while. Im hoping the 4" blocks level me and then the Road Master kit eliminates most of the axle wrap the blocks may cause. Now heres the thing thats going to kill everyone... I ordered the blocks from Truckin Suspensions. Their kit includes the U-bolts, which 4 Wheel parts had told me I would have to custom make. I figure manufacturing blocks and bolts is hard to screw up, so Im not that worried. Ill let you know if what kind of expereince I have with them.



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2/26/2003
19:26:30

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Nice job James!!! Can't wait for more photos. Looks like you already have new tires and wheels. What size are you running, and how do they fit?

I'm starting to get excited. Should have mine within a few weeks, I would think. BTW, anyone know any good shops in Minneapolis/St.Paul?





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2/26/2003
19:38:23

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Thanks McCracken! Im running 32x11.5 BFG all-terrains. Ive been running these with minimal trimming for the past 30,000 without any trouble. Now that I have the lift, I have tons of room and am planning to upgrade to 33x12.5 mud-terrains. All I need is just a few more dollars...whats another night on the couch...



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2/26/2003
20:06:12

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TS blocks lol, I am sure they are OK to use, just not their lifts. They(fabtech) seem to make decent accessories. So what did they charge you for them shipped if you don't mind me asking? Thanks, Bob.

What gears you running James?

Flowmaster cat back w/15 inch chrome tip, Volant Intake, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs, full synthetic fluids
3 inch body/1.5 inch Block Lift, 305 70-16 X-Terrains on AR Terons, Pro Comp ES9000's
Grizzly double/single rollbar with (6) Hella's, Manik Nerfs, Line-X, Hard Work & $$$$$$$$$$

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2/26/2003
20:06:21

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TS blocks lol, I am sure they are OK to use, just not their lifts. They(fabtech) seem to make decent accessories. So what did they charge you for them shipped if you don't mind me asking? Thanks, Bob.

What gears you running James?

Flowmaster cat back w/15 inch chrome tip, Volant Intake, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs, full synthetic fluids
3 inch body/1.5 inch Block Lift, 305 70-16 X-Terrains on AR Terons, Pro Comp ES9000's
Grizzly double/single rollbar with (6) Hella's, Manik Nerfs, Line-X, Hard Work & $$$$$$$$$$

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2/26/2003
21:11:56

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Blocks and U-bolts were $36 and shipping was $16.

Im running the stock 3.55's untils I can afford 4.10's.



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2/27/2003
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To bad that guy has some whimpy At tires and not beefy MT tires. It would look much better with some MT's, don't ya think?




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2/27/2003
10:46:26

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Some of run 2 set of tires and do not waste or tread on the road, Chad!

Running MT's on the road is a waste! But I know the looks goys have to have it.



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2/27/2003
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the nut apears to be loose on the leftf side of the u bolt shot :-/



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2/27/2003
11:04:31

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hehehe...he said nut...hehehe.

sorry, had a beavus and butthead flashback moment.



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2/27/2003
11:14:27

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He is aware of that. Since James is waiting for the 4" blocks he was gonna fix it all this weekend. He said he still had to go back around and make sure everything is holding tight.


I just dropped my truck off for the install. I am going back to take pictures later this afternoon of the progress. I have posted the kit contents on my site here is the link:

http://claycdbj.com/page5.html

I also posted how the truspeed calibrator is installed since I have been asked by many about it and how well it works.

Look out for most updates!

Kevin and Craig,

It has been raining and is supposed to rain Friday night. Hollister could be more fun than we anticipated!!!

Chris

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2/27/2003
11:38:33

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This is off topic and shows my ignorance. So I just need one quick answer and I'll be fine. What is Hollister place you guys are always talking about?

Steve



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2/27/2003
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Did you lick on my link?

Hollister is a City in lower NO CA, Call central if you want but there is a Motorcycle and off road area. You pay 4$ and have a legal place to just tear it up and they have differrent skill level trails. Just a place to meet that is about an hour away from all of us.

Go here to check it out:

http://www.ohv.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=1179

My photos are at my link. Most of the photo's are from different area's in the park. The video's work good to.

If you are anywhere near NO CA it is a good place to go. We also have Clear Creek and Pismo Dunes.

Enjoy!

Chris

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2/27/2003
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bfg allterrains are incredible tires. I had 2 sets on my bronco's before I got my dak and loved them I also have a set on my tahoe and explorer.

I've seen a couple lifted trucks that look real good with them. I like em when there big and stick out the side a tad. 97blkdak and stealwings trucks both look real good to me.



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2/27/2003
14:51:03

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Hollister will have the best traction we have seen in the last few trips. We will meet there around 10:00 and I will try to get the gate code in advance, if they give it to the club.


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2/27/2003
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I noticed a couple of you wanted some input regarding the in-cab adjustment for rancho shocks. I have a set of rs9000's on my YJ and installed the in-cab adjuster myself. It was time consuming, but fairly straight forward. I installed the small air compressor in the engine compartment along with the 'air hose junctions'. I've heard of many people have problems with theirs but I think if you're careful and take the time to do things right, you will have no problems. Mine's been perfect for two years now. Because the hoses are a friction fit into the shocks and the air hose junctions, they will lose air compression over a matter of 48 hours. When I hop back into my jeep for a weekend drive, I just pump it up to the front/rear settings I want. Overall I'm happy with it and enjoy having the adjustments on my dash, but if I had to do it over again, I would skip it. It's about $100+ and I find that the settings are generally kept around the same spot each time. Sometime if I get a couple of passengers in the rear, it's nice to make a quick adjustment to stiffen up the rear-end, but in our trucks, I really don't think we'll be adjusting them even that intermittently. When I get the new Rancho's for my dak, I, personally, am going to skip the adjustment. Aside from a very minor increase in convenience, and the fact that people ask, "what is that cool guage thingy", I just don't think it's worth it. Go spend the $100 on beer or martinis, whichever floats your boat. ; )

Hope that helps. If you want more detail on the kit, let me know.

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