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10/10/2002
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I'm new to the 4x4 game, and I keep reading posts about not using part time 4x4 unless itson a surface that allows slippage. My question is,how little slippage do you need. For example, if I drive in light snow, grass, etc, will this hurt the drive train?



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10/10/2002
17:14:24

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My own rule of thumb is that if I'm in danger of getting stuck, I'll put it in 4WD. Otherwise I tend not to. But in terms of surfaces that are okay for running in 4WD, here's my take on it:

dry pavement - no
wet pavement - no
snowy pavement - if there's a few inches on the road and/or I'm spinning tires in 2WD
slush on pavement - I wouldn't unless I was about to get stuck or I was spinning tires in 2WD every time I hit the gas.
grass - go for it
dirt roads - if you want to, do it.
sand - absolutely

Other people will have different opinions I'm sure...that's just my take on it.

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10/10/2002
18:38:45

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I agree with Dan. The more you use 4x4 on areas that don't allow the wheels to slip up front, the more stress and wear you will put on the system. I don't do a lot of mudding, but in the winter I use my 4x4 a lot going into the backcountry pulling my snowmobile trailer back to the trails, of course using 4x4 there isn't a problem!

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10/11/2002
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I have also used my 4x4 (LO) to pull some BIG bushes out of the ground, I was on dry pavement, but I was going strait, and only about 5ft. I have also put it into 4HI to pull my boat out of the water as soon as it began to spin in 2wd

Dan said it, just use your own judgment. The tires "might" give the first few times you wanna act stupid, but that will only last a couple times


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10/11/2002
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I may be doing the exact same thing with the bushes this weekend Clevite. Where did you hook up a chain to the dakota? (or if you didn't use a chain, what did you use?)

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10/11/2002
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Hook it to your receiver (I know you have one for your sleds right?) hook it up to that.

I used 10,000lb AutoZone tow straps (DON"T BUY THEM) I had it frayed up within 2 bushes. Granted I had it into 4LO with a running start (hehe) but these bushes were about 5 foot round and 20 years old. Without the running start (5mph) I would just spin all 4 tires on dry pavement. After the tow strap I took it back to AutoZone (It was brand new, that was it's first use) and my buddy had a chain. You'll hear don't use chain because if it snaps, it can fling back into your truck. But if you use thick chain you'll be fine. The chain we used had only one hook so we used that around the bush and just wrapped the other end around the ball of the receiver, made sure it wasn't going anywhere and had fun LOL.

Bill if you have any questions e-mail me, or whatever, sometimes I forget which thread I posted on and forget to check for replies with questions. btw... e-mails on my site, I heard there was problems with random virus e-mails so I have it hidden


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Hook it to your receiver (I know you have one for your sleds right?) hook it up to that.

I used 10,000lb AutoZone tow straps (DON"T BUY THEM) I had it frayed up within 2 bushes. Granted I had it into 4LO with a running start (hehe) but these bushes were about 5 foot round and 20 years old. Without the running start (5mph) I would just spin all 4 tires on dry pavement. After the tow strap I took it back to AutoZone (It was brand new, that was it's first use) and my buddy had a chain. You'll hear don't use chain because if it snaps, it can fling back into your truck. But if you use thick chain you'll be fine. The chain we used had only one hook so we used that around the bush and just wrapped the other end around the ball of the receiver, made sure it wasn't going anywhere and had fun LOL.

Bill if you have any questions e-mail me, or whatever, sometimes I forget which thread I posted on and forget to check for replies with questions. btw... e-mails on my site, I heard there was problems with random virus e-mails so I have it hidden


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10/11/2002
16:43:49

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Thanks for the info. Clevite. I have a very heavy duty chain from work that we have used to pull trees out of the ground with our heavy duty disel tractor with front end loader. Should be fun as these bushes are about 4 feet tall and have been in the ground since the 60s!!!!!

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10/11/2002
21:34:07

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awwwww mannn the good ol days hehe, let me know how it goes


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10/11/2002
21:36:58

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The fun begins in about 12 hours, my truck is shaking with anticipation!!!

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10/11/2002
22:22:01

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oh I forgot, try and put weight in the bed, and fill your tank, that made a BIG difference, the second time out... have fun.


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10/12/2002
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Well, the bushes are no longer in the ground and the truck is still in tact! Used 4-LO first on the grass and wasn't quite getting enough traction, so I changed my approach angle and went off the drive way and the things pulled right out with a little grit and determination! I was very impressed with the 4-Lo capabilities. Very impressive showing for the Dakota! Thakns for the advice Nick!

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10/12/2002
20:17:26

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Hey No problem, glad everything worked out for ya.


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10/12/2002
20:24:18

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This thread reminds me of when a former roommate of mine tried to pull out a tree stump using...his 4WD Toyota Tercel wagon! He was *very* disappointed when it didn't work out. Like that old saying: "couldn't pull a greased string out of a cat's butt."



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10/12/2002
20:31:12

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Always engage your front axle before slippage occurs at your rear axle to save your driveline from possible damage.


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10/12/2002
20:39:30

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Also dry pavement is the only time not to use 4WD. Any other time when it is wet or you are off the road you can use it at your discretion with no binding of the driveline occuring.


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