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BlackDak20
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7/31/2003
19:55:51

Subject: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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Is there a way that i can run firestone 2600's on front without cuttin the spring pocket. All the daks that ive looked at with 2600's on front had the spring pocket. I can make custom cups if i need to, i just realllllly dont want to have to cut them. Also i heard if you use 2500's u dont have to, if theres no way for 2600's to fit, would 2500's b ok ok a 4.7L quad cab? Thanx ahead of time guys



ian
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7/31/2003
21:23:58

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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If you use the AirRide Technologies kit you need to cut the pockets, and you need to cut alot.

I'm not sure about 2500 lb bags, but I would love to know, because I know I am in the danger zone when I lay it out.

Brislands makes a kit that doesn't require the frame to be cut (I wish I would have known about it before I did my truck!!!) Here are some pics of it:





They are a really good company to deal with, I just ordered my C-notch from them. www.brislands.com



Ted
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8/01/2003
00:56:21

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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Dont quote me because there is not a lot of feedback from bagged Dakotas on here, but I think its about impossible to have bags without cutting in the front. I have the same kit as Ian and there was quite a bit to cut. The 2600lb bags are even bigger therefore that would be more to cut. Just my 2 cents worth, but if you are going to spend all the money you may as well do it right. The ART front kit is awesome, especially with the shocks. (Ian I owe you pics man, email me because I lost your address).



ian
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8/01/2003
14:53:38

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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My email is ianrulz321@hotmail.com , I also lost your address, I hope I was able to help ya!

It is very possible to run 2500 lb bags, in fact I just ordered a set for the front of my truck, because of the rub issues. The pictures about are of an un-cut frame with brislands brackets and 2500 lb bags.




Blackdak20
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8/01/2003
15:01:04

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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Thanx guys, I emailed brisland customs and they said that they do have a cup set that is made so that you do not have to cut. By the pics there it looks like a 2600 would fit on those too. I have a v8, its a small one but its still a v8, but i think the 2500's will be alright if i need to beacause of clearence problems. Does the ART kit come w/ 2500 bags? They design all that stuff to work right, so im guessing that if they use a 2500 that its alright........ just a though.
thanks guys

blackdak20@aol.com



ian
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8/01/2003
15:15:28

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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The ART kit does not come with bags, but they reccomend 2600lb bags, but after installing the 2600's I would deffinately reccomend the 2500lb bags. I have a CC V6.



UFDakota
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8/01/2003
21:34:52

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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Damn, that brislands kit looks good! Any of u know if those relocated shocks rub? I figure there's gotta be a way to relocate and not lose your turning radius, but so far i haven't seen it. thanks. peace
-Dan



pappie1
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8/01/2003
22:43:13

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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I got Airlift 2B6 up front. They are the same size as the 2500. I also have a v-8 and I get plenty of lift. Its like 9" or something I didn't have to trime much at all, just a little around the front lip.



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8/02/2003
02:45:53

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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How in the hell are you getting 9 inches of lift in the front with a v-8. I got slam specialties and i have to hit 150psi to get around 6. Not calling you a liar just curious, hell i might change my setup when you explain this to me.



pappie1
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8/02/2003
13:14:11

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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I got a set of s-10 brackets. the o.d. is alot smaller than dakota and the upper pockets are offset soooooo you crank them around to the inner side of your upper pockets, weld a 1" spacer on top or bottom...... and BLAM.....9" @ 170psi Its just sets the bags closer to the inside of your center body. If it makes you feel any better... I only get 6" in the rear( i think)



lowrt
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8/02/2003
17:53:59

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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just my opinion, but cut the spring pocket and go w/ the 2600. im getting 10.5-11" of lift on an r/t.



ian
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8/02/2003
19:31:56

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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The question is why do you want that much lift? I would rather have the clearance so that I can drive low with out rubbing the bag on the frame (like my truck does on the drivers side with 2600 lb bags, even after we cut sooooooooooooooo much out of the frame.)

ianrulz321@hotmail.com



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8/02/2003
22:40:27

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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Cause if your bodydropped on 20's, it takes a a$$ load of lift to untuck them. I have never seen 11 inches of lift on a Dakota in the front. And on top of that you have a 360. Show me some pics of that setup.



lowrt
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8/05/2003
01:17:45

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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here are some pics. i dont have any of the actual setup. im actually getting ready to redo it for my bodydrop.






lowrt
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8/05/2003
01:19:18

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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if you want to see bigger pics i can e mail you some. let me know at q36rt@msn.com



UFDakota
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8/05/2003
16:13:42

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Kyle (lowrt), whats up i've talked to u b4 on ssmag. I figured u were bodydropping your truck when i saw ur selling your hood. guessing your getting a cowl hood for clearance right? Cant wait to see how the BD comes out! good luck and let me know as soon as it gets done. peace
-Dan




BlackDak20
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8/05/2003
17:54:43

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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I ordered the Brisland's bag cups so we will stee how they work. Just need to get a couple hundered more bux and order valves then i will have everything and begin installing. Should be w/in the next week or 2 and i will let you know how it goes. Gonna be running a 5 gallon tank at 175 psi with a viair 450 compressor, firestone 2500lbs bags with probably smc 1/2" valves and 1/2" line. What do you guys think? Should be pretty quick I hope.



lowrt
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8/05/2003
19:43:50

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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whats up man? yep, im finally starting to take the body down. and yeah, ill need a cowl hood, but i'll probably have to make my own because of the big ass motor.



ian
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8/06/2003
21:07:49

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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I just put the 2500 lb bags on the front of my truck, i like them alot, lots of cleaance, and they are nice and stiff at a low stance (unline the 2600's) but they need sooooooo much pressure to raise, I'm at 105 to get it to ride height, where it used to be 85. But it forsure handles so much better.



UFDakota
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8/07/2003
02:39:11

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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ian, don't even worry about 105 psi! that's really nothing. I'm actually surprised that's all it takes; it took about 120psi for my friends s10 at ride height. You should be able to ride even higher if u wanted or need to. just thought i'd let u know. peace
-Dan



ian
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8/07/2003
08:42:55

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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I know I can get it higher, lol, I just don't have my compressor in yet, and thats alot of pressure to get at a gas station. Todays project is puttin in the compressor, lol.



Ted
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8/08/2003
00:14:22

RE: 2600lb bags on front, cut spring pocket?
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Yes, the 2500lb bags are awesome, I will agree it takes a little pressure to get them up but the ride is really smooth with the shocks as well. What kind of compressor do you have? Also the wiring is a bit** for the compressor, have fun...lol



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