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3/21/2004
16:41:56

Subject: RE: Sludge!!!(oil fill baffle scam)
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An easy way to clean oil sludge out of any engine is to go to a Jiffy Lube and for about $100, they will do an internal engine cleansing using some kind of hot oil treatment. I do this once a year.



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4/08/2004
20:22:11

RE: Sludge!!!(oil fill baffle scam)
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follow-up:

Last week while doing an oil change (Mobil 1)
I removed the oil fill tube to clean it out AGAIN
and, wrapped approx. 10 feet of metallic insulation tape around it, hoping it will help
retaining some heat inside to prevent the famous
"cold weather sludge/oil emulsion/sludge build-up.

Well, after a week of slightly above freezing
weather and short 10 mile trips to work (1/2 on hwy.), the sludge is still re-appearing..

Now I want to try and build some sort of shield
to block the airflow coming from the cooling fan.

has anyone experimented anything else ?

911mike



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4/08/2004
21:21:33

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Hi, My two cents. I had sludge ( a little ) from new. My driving is usually 5 miles to and from work during the week. The first oil change was with dino oil. the second was convert to synthetic ( mobil 1 ) which the dealer had. The third was valvoline ( the dealer said they had lots of trouble with mobil sludging and getting too dirty ( not vaporizing the dirt or suspending it properly ). The forth and fifth have been with amsoil. Since the switch to amsoil, my 'oil' has been relatively clean, and my engine sludge free as far as I can tell. The oil also smells almost the same from new to the change. The others smelled old and dirty. I think I will be using amsoil from now on...... and my dealer is "happy to see that someone cares enough to use amsoil" a quote. Also, the pressure stays the same from new to the change ( right on the line ). with the others including dino, it was good for about 4 - 6 hundred miles but then dropped off a bit. New it was just over the line, after that it dropped to about a needle width below the line, and at idle it would go almost to the first line or really second of the four lines if that makes sense ( maybe others guages are diff than mine. But the other stuff sucked, the amsoil seems to be a world better.



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4/08/2004
22:18:16

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Thank you ... peedee!

DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL !!!

This was posted by Sephiroth 3/20/2004
V8 Forum --- Subject: New Chrysler Product?!

Message posted by Sephiroth:

"I went in to have my brakes checked today, and when I walked into the garage the first thing I saw made my jaw hit the floor. My local dealership now uses and sells AMSOIL products!! They've got it posted on a big banner over the service-desks. GM may not have been able to get it for their 'vettes, but obviously Dodge was able to, or they found out how awesome it is and started buying at regular price! When I go in for a tranny-filter, fluid, and gasket change next week, it's getting filled with AMS."

Sephiroth went on to state:

"This is at the Raleigh, NC dealership, Al Smith Buick, Dodge, Mazda. I told the guy at the desk I was astounded to see them using AMSOIL and that I had been using it for a while now. After he rode in the truck he said he'd be switching next oil-change in his Ram.

As for me, I've got it in the engine, and I'll have it in the tranny soon! Next up are the differentials. After that I need to get a dyno just for curiosity's sake. IF I get 3-5hp form the differential, and God knows how much from the engine and tranny, that'll be enough without any heavy mods. Well, for all I do anyway. If it is a significant gain, I'll post the results."


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... and as part of the same thread jeremiah2360 stated:

"Norwood (MA) Dodge sells Amsoil too."
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4/09/2004
15:42:00

RE: Sludge!!!(oil fill baffle scam)
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Simplest effective way to reduce/clean sludge is to change oil and filter once a week for 4 weeks with a high-quality SAE rated major brand oil.



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4/27/2004
18:33:49

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I have a 2001 Dakota QC w/4.7 litre. Sending unit replaced but took valve cover off and upper all sludged up. Ran Mobil 1 5W-30 since day one. Dealer says I need a new engine. Any suggestions. Can this stuff be extracted without replacing parts or engine?.



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4/27/2004
19:15:13

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Scott,how many miles on engine? Owned since new? How often did you change the oil?



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4/27/2004
19:27:59

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Auto-Rx will remove the sludge but not any damage that was done. Did you see this yourself or were you told this? Maybe a second opinion is in order with such a dire prognosis. If you decide to Auto-Rx it go to Auto-Rx.com and e-mail them. They may want you to follow a severe schedule for that much sludge. Good luck.



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4/27/2004
19:51:37

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Approx. 77K, changed it every 4K to 7K. Dodges "A" maintenance reccomends every 7500. Never babyied the truck either. I am a contractor...



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4/27/2004
19:52:58

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Sorry, drove it new off the lot in 12/00



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4/27/2004
20:46:30

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Scott,
You are a liar.
04Dakota



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4/28/2004
00:03:22

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I have a 01, 4.7, 5spd,....
and live in S.E. Texas-warm climate

I have 53,000 on mine, use Mobil 1 10-30, and never even had the 'milkshake' in the filler tube.

BUT-

Why is Scott a liar? I don't doubt he may have it, and NO, I don't know why I don't, and he does.




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4/28/2004
20:54:52

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I saw the valve cover last night. Definately sludge. I never saw any deposits on the fill tube or the stick. This is why this is so messed up, I can't figure it out. I used to work for Mobil and was in a test study with the synthetic and never saw any thing like this. They want to pull the pan and check the lower end and I'll be out about S500.00 for this. I am going to have it flushed out a couple times and see if this helps with pressure and to clean it up.



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4/29/2004
12:29:30

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I had a 2000 4.7 Durango. I noticed the sludge in mine. After I changed to synthetic, I saw no more of the sludge. Use something like Amsoil or Mobil1. This is not a problem with good synthetics and if you have it, it will clear up. That doohickey they gave me to put in the filler tube was a bunch of crap!



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4/29/2004
12:44:54

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Scott said he ran Mobil 1 and it sludged up.



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4/29/2004
12:48:02

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Given the right conditions I would say that even synth would do a little sludging. Remember that it is the water and byproducts of combustion in that sludge. Not just oil.



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4/29/2004
15:45:57

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I run Mobil one,,and have noticed the sludge on occassion - I have 98Kmiles on mine. Not an every time thing,,,like once every 3-4 changes.

However when I pulled the valve covers to swap cams in my 4.7 there was no sludge there - super clean on the inside - I was happy.



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1/20/2008
11:15:10

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my truck is 5 yrs old and never a problem until this year. maybe it is because it has been a colder winter.



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1/21/2008
07:42:20

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The sludge in the filler tube is harmless.



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1/21/2008
14:52:14

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Cold Winter?

Wait a Minute.

The liberals said we were having Global Warming,
then you say a 'cold winter'?

LOL



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