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ZenDak
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2/03/2003
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52K on my '01 4.7! Weeeeeeeeee!
I changed the oil the other day,,and to my dismay noticed a lil' bit'o sludge up in the filler, and on the cap. I was pissed. Probably be switching over to Full Syn. next oil change.
I know ya'll said it happens more in colder climates,,but I live in Austin TX....
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Texas Todd
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2/03/2003
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...everythings Zen, I don't think so. - J/K
Zen, now that's what I like, someone who DRIVES his dak!!
One Texan to another...
Todd
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HenryND
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2/11/2003
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Anything further to say here. I see it myself this past weekend.
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Tx-Hop
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2/11/2003
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All the 4.7's do it.. The dealer will fix it but, all they do is put a baffle in there so you don't see it.. It shouldn't hurt it. Only thing that will keep it out is driving it. Long road trips will burn out the moisture..
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HenryND
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2/13/2003
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Darn cold here in ND this morning, and I drive very short trips and not every day. No dealer nearby. Can I order the baffle on the phone and fix here at home?
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Texas Todd
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2/13/2003
08:34:26
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It's simply a piece of plastic that slips into the filler neck.
Does not do anything-as others have posted, it wouldn't matter whether you had it or not! It either will, or won't do it, regardless of the baffle or not! My 01 came with the baffle, it's a cosmetic thing!-the baffle.
Most, as I, find using a good, REAL, synthetic (I use Mobil 1 Super Syn, NOT the TRI- syn!), and it seems to help.
Did you know that just because a can of oil uses the word synthetic on it, it's usually NOT a true synthetic?, only a modified dino oil!
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HenryND
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2/14/2003
04:42:26
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I would like to try the baffle.
Can I order the baffle on the phone ?
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Texas Todd
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2/14/2003
08:15:13
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Henry,
1st of all, just ry it.
2nd of all, you do understand, that the baffle doesn't change or fix anything, right?
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ZenDak
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2/14/2003
12:32:42
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TX Todd - you know I drive the snot out of my DAK! In fact I'm about to destroy my diff. It wasn't fixed after my accident,,and can hear it making louder and louder clicks when I'm going around corners now-a-days. Sux,,,,
Where are you at TX Todd?
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AmsoilSponsor
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2/14/2003
13:25:06
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My Guess is that Texas Todd is in Texas. LOL
It's not ALWAYS about oil. Sometime's I gotta make a funny.
Happy Valentines Day to all the Lady Dak Owners!
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Texas Todd
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2/14/2003
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Zen,
I'm in the HOuston/Galveston area.
Also, sounds like you may have a LSD (as I do), but someone (other than you), may have put the wrong type of fluid in it!
Todd Bouton
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ZenDak
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2/14/2003
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Nope,,,mine's very much an open Differential. Really sux,,but if you're looking at the passenger side when I burn out,,,,you'd think twice about racing me. The One-Wheeled wonder!!
I'm out in Austin by the way.
I'm going to buy a new factory unit ($150 from 4wheelparts.com - great price),,and then some 3.92's, or 4.10's. Can't wait!
I was in a pretty bad wreck a while back, and I always told them to check the diff. just in case,,they refused. So I'm going to drive it to $hitt, and make the Ins. Co. pay out the nose for it..... They've been screwing me over lately.
Oh-well.
Life's short :) Have fun!
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kevster
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2/14/2003
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I just live with the damn white foam stuff. Galveston Oh Galveston, I am so affraid of dying,.... Good song by the man himself.. Glenn Campbell.
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HenryND
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2/16/2003
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My situation seems to be worsening.
I would still like to try the baffle.
Can I order the baffle on the phone ?
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FarGoBarLo
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2/16/2003
11:18:30
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Why, yes you can, just call 1-800-I-don't-have-a-clue. Tell them you're baffled and they will set you right up. You can also scoop it out and make a fluffernutter out of it, mmm good!
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TexasTodd
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2/16/2003
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HenryND,
ONE MORE TIME!!!!
THE BAFFLE WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING! IT JUST COVERS MOST OF IT! Get the baffle though, sounds like you think as though it actually does something to PREVENT the foam-it doesn't.
Do you inderstand why it builds up? Did you know other manufacturers also have this stuff happening sometimes?
Hello?
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HenryND
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2/17/2003
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TX Todd,
I get the point now. THX
My concern is that it would continue to get worse.
I will set on my hands.
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Texas Todd
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2/17/2003
11:32:16
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Henry,
No offense meant.
I understand the concern, I've got the 4.7 also.
B/C I live in a warm climate, use Mobil 1, and most of my commutes are 20miles +, I haven't had the problem with it, even under my baffle.
Todd
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DairyQueen
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2/17/2003
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heck, scoop out the mayo and mix it with vanilla flavoring and sell it to kids at the local malt shop!
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Flugelman
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4/20/2003
22:23:58
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I have a 94 V6 - 197k. No oil problems in the past, regular oil changes. Recently have had problem with oil pressure. After running the truck for only a few minutes the oil light comes on and the pressure drops. Clicking starts after several minutes. If I let the truck sit for a few minutes the pressure will come up and then drop again after a few minutes, each time taking less time for the pressure to drop (always with the light coming on about 30-60 seconds before the pressure drops). It is almost like the oil from the pan is being pumped up into the engine and there is sludge preventing the oil to come back down to the pan. Any ideas?
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dakotaguy 92
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4/20/2003
22:52:15
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sounds like oil pump and screen. oil pump 25.00, screen 30.00, i'm thinking of doing mine because it seems to be a problem on gen II dakota. my 92 318 mag the pressure drops majorly when i stop at a light. you oil pressure sending unit might be bad to .
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Texas Todd
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4/21/2003
09:20:23
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Mind starting a new thread, since this is not the 4.7's oil emulsion?
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Black Magic
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4/21/2003
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I have the same problem on my 4.7.
I live near Detroit so it gets cold as $hit in the winter.
Everytime I change my oil, I wipe up as much of the foam as I can. I use Mobil 1 Super Syn. every time.
I guess there is no preventing it from happening.
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tough guy
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4/22/2003
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I use that foam to shave with !
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dakotaster
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4/22/2003
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I have seen this on my friends 4.7L.The dealer told him this was normal also.My question is why only on the 4.7 not the 3.9 ar the 5.9.Is this their way of covering up another dodge defect.It used to be that water in your oil was bad for the engine and ment that you had a blown gasket.now they put the magic stick in all is better.water=rust Just My Thoughts
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baffled_in_CT
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6/22/2003
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Has anyone figured this problem out yet in one sentence or less. I am confused. My foamy oil problem showed up a recently and is getting worse. We have had rainy and cool temps for weeks. Could this be the reason?
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JasonB
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6/23/2003
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The problem is that there are multiple issues here.
#1....foam in the oil filler neck/tube. This is simply condensation of the normal water vapors that are present in the crankcase air. The oil filler neck is a nice cool spot for it to condense.
#2....the only "consistent" sludging of the 4.7L V-8 has been found to be caused by inconsistent and/or insufficient oil and filter changes. The 4.7L V-8 engine is a good durable engine. It does, however, have a THING about it. It will NOT endure inconsistent or insufficent oil & filter change intervals like the 3.9L, 5.2L and 5.9L.
Do not get the wrong idea and think that I am accusing anyone of poor maintenance. I do not know you or your circumstances. I do know a thing or two about the brief service history of these engines.
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6/24/2003
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Thought this might be of benefit to you guys. It is a Durango article but may also enlighten you as to problems that may also effect your Dakota's:
Durango is a Sludge Monster ??? - Check This Out
This link is not to discredit Dodge Durango's or Daimler Chrysler. It is simply posted for information purposes only. You must draw your own conclusions. I hope it helps.
I'm not here just to promote Amsoil, but to also offer advise on other subjects that might be of concern.
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teddy
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6/24/2003
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Thanks Steven. Good Link.
What I find most interesting about the article is that only Durango's are mentioned, and only a few of the letters specify which engine. There were at least 4 engines in use from 1998 to 2001 in the Durango. Do they all have the sludge problem? What about the Dakotas, Ram's, and Vans that use the same engines?
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JamesInDE
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6/25/2003
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I wish I had been aware of that article earlier. I had similar problems with my wife's Durango and I had to buy a new engine. Dealer said it was my fault.
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