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CyberWolf
GenIII
 
3/26/2001
17:53:00
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 Subject: 5 speed shift (dummy) light
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The shift light on my 2001 4.7 5 speed has never lit up. Is it possible that it is somehow disabled or do I need to take it in to have it fixed?
'01 4.7 CC, 5 speed, Sport , 3.92 limited slip, Intense
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Nick
*GenIII*
3/26/2001
17:57:49
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Lucky, I wish mine didn't work. I'd go get it fixed if you want it. Mine just annoys me. But as far as I knw the only way to disable is to steal the bulb. So yeah go get it fixed.
1997 Dodge Dakota Sport 5.2-V-8
Duel Exhaust, Growler Mufflers
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Anthony
GenIII
3/26/2001
18:49:46
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Mine never lit up either, I don't care for a shift light. I would find it annoying.
Anthony
2000 Dakota Sport Plus CC 4X4 4.7, 5spd, 3.55, Intense Blue, Loaded
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CyberWolf
GenIII
3/27/2001
12:39:21
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I'm fine with it not lighting up because I have been driving standards for years. My wife is learning how to drive a standard. I think it might be nice for her. I don't think it would annoy me because most of my other vehicles had dummy lights. Thanks. I was just wondering if there was a way to enable it without having to take it in.
'01 4.7 CC, 5 speed, Sport , 3.92 limited slip, Intense
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Anthony
GenIII
3/27/2001
19:23:14
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I shift at around 2500 rpm, pretty much all the time. Unless I want to make her scream it's up there.
CyberWolf tell your wife to shift at a certain point in the rpm range (ie:2500rpm) until she gets the hang of things. That's the way I figured it out for myself. I think the shift light would come on at 3000 rpm's.
Anthony
2000 Dakota Sport Plus CC 4X4 4.7, 5spd, 3.55, Intense Blue, Loaded
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Tyler A
GenIII
3/28/2001
21:37:36
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Mine works, unfortunatly. It lights up at like 2 grand, and just kinda annoys me. The only good thing is that it doesnt light up under hard acceleration.
Tyler A '00 Dakota Sport-16.532 @ 82mph
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Nick
*GenIII*
3/28/2001
23:28:09
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yeah, just tell her to shift between 2500-3K RPMS. Unless she can't aford shift time.
1997 Dodge Dakota Sport 5.2-V-8
Duel Exhaust, Growler Mufflers
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John Bendiksen
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3/29/2001
10:50:42
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If you do find out why it's not working, please post the cause so the rest of us can use the information to disable the damn thing. I don't want to tear into the dash to get to the bulb if I don't have to...
I think you'll find that it's more annoying than a regular 'idiot' light, because it's constantly flickering on and off. You see it in your peripheral vision and it get's your attention so you're constantly looking down at your dash, thinking there's something meaningful there, whereas it's actually just some "idiot's" idea of when you should shift.
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shawn_r
Dodge Dakota
8/24/2001
11:05:21
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Mine lights up over 1500 rpm whenever I hold it at a constant rpm above that point. As soon as I start to accelerate it goes away. Then it comes on and stays on at 3500. I agree it is very annoying.
Shawn Reding
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
8/24/2001
13:32:18
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THe shift light is a good thing. Anyone can drive a standard without looking at the stupid light. But the light is a excellent refrence on how to get the best fuel economy.
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Bruce P
Dodge Dakota
8/24/2001
22:17:58
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According to the 2000 dakota shop manual, the upshift light is normally only "enabled" when fitted with the 4-cylinder engine.
However, a knowledgable service department should be able to re-program the onboard computer to "enable" the upshift light on any dakota.
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Anthony
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
08:11:43
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When looking at the gauge cluster you should be able to see a little triangle below the 3,000 mark on the RPM gauge. Which of course this is your shift light. My cluster didn't come with the little triangle, I'm not complaining I'm thankful.
So re-programming the computer would do nothing if you have the same gauge cluster as mine...
Anthony
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Zaurusman
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
18:03:03
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The thing I hate about that light is that it doesn't dim with everything else at night, so I cannot ignore it. I briefly tried shifting by light when it was new to improve my mileage; following it means you either floor it or go very slow! When I put in the NR Auto black-on-white guage decals I have a piece of black plastic or construction paper with its name on it. Afraid to pull the bulb - recall the owner's manual or something read that if the instrument panel has any problems it should be fixed immediately because the airbag uses its circuitry. Haven't confirmed with the shop manual.
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Zaurusman
'98 RC V6 5spd
http://www.tiborsrealm.com/Dakota/Index.htm
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Derrick H
Dodge Dakota
8/26/2001
19:09:22
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Bruce P Is somewhat correct, The 4.7 has the shift light but it doesn't work . The 6 and 4 are wired for it. The shift light is only there to guide on when to shift, but I have heard of reports that using the shift light doesn't give any better gas mileage.
01 4.7 RC 5spd 3.92 lim.slip
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Jimmyc
Dodge Dakota
8/26/2001
22:36:48
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Thanks for the info Derrick H. I have had my 01 Dak for about 9 months now and was wondering why the light did not work. Not that I miss it, personally I'm glad it doesn't work.
01 QC 4.7 4x4 3.92LSD Flame Red 5-speed
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Teamfast
Dodge Dakota
8/26/2001
22:45:02
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If the light comes on at startup but never when
driving who cares, at least we know it works
and it isnt a bulb or something. Mine has
never come on and ive had it to 6200rpm.
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
8/27/2001
02:33:24
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i have a 5.2 and the stupid light works. dont know why it wouldnt work on the 4.7
Eric
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James Ready
Dodge Dakota
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1/30/2004
13:36:42
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I have a 2004 Dakota and mine does not light up either. Brought it into the dealership and they said it has to do with the Cali emssions control. If you have that it will light up, otherwise its set to stay off. Does anyone know how to turn it on myself; instead of going to the dealership and looking like a moron.
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RAT
Dodge Dakota
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1/30/2004
15:12:25
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To tell you the truth I forgot the dang thing was still there until you guys had to say somthing about it. No... Really though, it's just for fuel economy, not optimal shift regions. If you go a little past 3000rpms it turns bach off again because it knows that your going to ignore it at that point. What would be nice is if you can hook it up like a performance tach with the programmable shift light, to tell you to shift at 5200rpms.
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TexasTodd
Dodge Dakota
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1/30/2004
15:26:41
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Shift at 5200? I don't need a dyno to know I'm still making good power past that point!
Reputable sources on this forum, have said that: I think it was 2001, that the shift light mode was programmed out of the PCM, and it only comes on at the start up light test. Apparently it was too confusing, and causing problems, etc. So they did away with it. It will come on at the start up, panel light check however.
Todd
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noitall
Dodge Dakota
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1/30/2004
16:09:48
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if you keep it floored it doesn't come on at all!
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