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5/23/2002
08:54:26

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What have people done to force air directly into the stock air-filter box? It looks as though the turned elbow on the front of the stock air-filter box only sucks in air from inside the fender but the fender doesn't seem to have a real good direct flow of air. The viable option seems to be be removing the rubber flap on the left side of the radiator and running some sort of pipe/hosing from the bottom of the air-filter box directly to where the rubber flap would have been. That doesn't seem to logical though since that pipe/housing would be restrictive due to A/c lines and such.
I am not interested in getting an aftermarket intake kit or doing a complete homebrew so answers to the above question will be much appreciated. Thanks

2002 QC 4x4 Sport Plus, 4.7L, auto, Patriot Blue, Tire & Handling group,
Heavy Duty Service group, Leer cap w/out windows, Mopar Step bars and roof rack, Rhino liner in bed and on step bars, Pace Edwards Power Tailgate lock
3.55 rear, 4-wheel anti-lock brakes, all possible fluids are AMSOIL

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5/23/2002
09:00:06

RE: Direct Cold Air Induction
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Im pretty sure Hawkeye did some modification to his stock box like you say. Shoot him an e mail



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5/23/2002
09:33:13

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just rip off the elbow and get a K&N drop in and remove that rubber flap.



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5/23/2002
11:23:13

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Before I put my Ractive Intake on I lost the elbow and Droped in a K&N It made a diffrance in sound and preformance now w/ the Ractive I get lil Better Pick up and mpg but not much over the K&N Check it out at www.angelfire.com/tx5.dakota


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5/23/2002
11:30:07

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This is a dumb question guys, but ....after reading these posts for a few months on the rubber flap deal, I still don't see one in mine. Could it be because of the lines for the transmission and oil cooler? I have looked all over the passenger side of the motor thinking i'm just blind and can't see it. Am I going crazy here?



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5/23/2002
11:40:46

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You're not crazy, my Y2K doesn't have the "flaps"



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5/23/2002
11:41:30

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Mine didn't come with the rubber flap either. Not sure why some have them and some don't.



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5/23/2002
13:15:47

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Mine's got 'em... they are really narrow - about 2" across maybe and go from the top of the radiator to the bottom of the grill (top of bumper) right between the headlights and grill on each side.

What about the hole in lower grill next to the fog lights? It looks like where the tow hooks should be or maybe brake ducts? You could put something there and use some flexible dryer hose to route air UP to the air box maybe?

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5/23/2002
13:35:55

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Rip out the complete restrictive stock set-up and build yourself one of these:







only paint it before you install it



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5/23/2002
13:51:37

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Oops I re-read your post....you don't want a homebrew...

Do you have fog lights? You could run the hose JMII suggested from there

OR

Somthing that I was going to do was to use a heating duct 4"x6" of 4"x8" the kind that goes from a rectangle to a round outlet, with a side outlet...put that in the lower valance(sp?)
Run a hose/duct up to the front of the stock air box
am I making any sense here?




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5/23/2002
14:26:15

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What did you make your heat sheild/box out of?



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5/23/2002
14:40:33

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JJ,

Nice intake! I have a similar setup, but your wall is really nice.

01 4.7 Ported TB, homebrew with K&N drop in.



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5/23/2002
16:03:18

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I used 8"x8" heat ducting. It comes in an "L" shape, so I cut the right depth with extra to make a 3 sided box. the end of the box was notched for the tube, and the front is left open to the front.
using an "S" stip (for joining 2 ducts) I added an extra front piece which is removable (stops the "ram air") for when it raining hard or dusty/dirty conditions.
I also added another 4" to the top so it would somewhat seal to the hood.
Took about 3 hrs. and a reaming from the wife (ruined her sissors because I didn't have tin snips)



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5/23/2002
16:22:27

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with all of this hassle of designing and making a homebrew, will it make a difference if you remove flaps and add pvc piping? i understand that K&N helps with the performance, but all of that work seems like a little much



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5/23/2002
16:26:50

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Just a K&N worked great for me.
But I get bored easily and and my only hobby is playing with my...truck



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5/24/2002
08:19:39

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Air intakes are fun. I'm about to build my own. I have a 360intakez now but i'm gettin a little anxious so its time to get creative.



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5/24/2002
10:15:22

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hey JJ you put a lot of work into that it looks nice, did you ever think about posting step by step instructions with the pics?



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5/24/2002
10:19:46

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Could do. I dunno if anyone would want 'em. I'll take the measurements on the weekend and see what I can do.



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5/24/2002
16:39:34

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I was looking around under the hood & thought relocate the battery to the bed, relocate the horns, & there's a nice big opening to the back of the grille! Of course, relocating the battery is a pain, but some people do it anyway for better weight distribution, no?
Didn't see any easy way to route ducting from the air dam openings to the engine compartment.
Looks like the factory hole in the fenderwell deal gets it's air mainly from around the headlight.
I needed a weekend project, I'll see if I can come up with something.



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5/25/2002
16:29:23

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For true "ram air" & not just cold air induction.


Check out the flat shet metal between the filter and the silver module on the left. There is enough room there to cut a hole that tubing or ducting could be run through that would give access to the area directly behind the fog light & tow hook openings. The silver module would need to be relocated to the fenderwell.



Here's the same spot from underneath. The black part on the right is the inner fenderwell, to the left is the area behind the air dam. My Dak doesn't have fog lights so I could cut out the hole & use it as an air intake.



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