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JohnnyReb
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8/01/2002
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CanaDak2,
What part of Canada do you live in? and which Amsoil lubricants did you chose for you DAK?

JR




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8/05/2002
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JohnnyReb,
I live outside Saskatoon, that is why I like getting my Amsoil products delivered direct to my door. Steven Roark (AmsoilSponsor) is my Amsoil Dealer and has been most helpful. His website is www.american-synthetic-oil.com if you need his help. I am using all Amsoil products and recently changed to Ow- in preparation for the cold winters. My suggestion to you is determine your own needs based on your driving style and conditions (where you live).

Peace,

CanaDak2 (there was already a CanaDak)



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8/05/2002
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CanaDak2

Happy to hear you received your order. I sent you a couple of the "retired" Amsoil Racing Stickers on Saturday. If you order the racing stickers now it is the new design.

Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of Dodge Dakotas.com

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8/05/2002
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Rah, Rah, Rah, for Amsoil Sponsor.
He has been MOST helpful in assisting
me with me questions and my orders.

MountainDak



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8/07/2002
20:23:27

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To quote one of the finest:

"Can Anyone Desire Too Much Of A Good Thing?"

- As You Like It, Act 4, Scene 1 (Shakespeare)

" Can Anyone Desire Too Much Of A GREAT Thing ... AMSOIL !!! "

- MountainDak Prose, Act 1, Scene 1 (MountainDak)



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8/10/2002
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I'm new here. On my search engines for dodge dakota, this site came up first. I've been reading (and laughing) all the posts on motor oils and service intervals.

You Americans have a practice that has always had me pondering.

Here in South Africa, we have not seen 3000mi (5000km) for over 20 years now. Our vehicles are mostly, if not all, European and Japanese and the minimum OEM recommendation (excluding diesels) is 15000km (9375mi), and this is on Dino (additives pkgs are better than when my father drove, and computer chips and fuel injection burns cleaner).

But these boundaries are currently being pushed as well.

Current OEM oil service intervals :

Alfa's - 20000km (12500mi)
BMW's - 24000km (15000 mi)
Citroens - 30000km (18750mi)

...provided they meet the OEMS spec. eg. a VW 500.00 oil. ON DINO MATES !!!

Have a few mates who have done some major mileage on their vehicles before first overhaul - current record is 510000km (318000 mi) on 30k service interval using synthetics. PURE AS MOUNTAIN H2O.

And so looking at the USA 3000 mi change intervals, I always ponder the reasons behind this.

Surely we have come a long way from the 40's/50's/60's/70's/early 80's, in vehicle manufacturing processes, oil and fuel quality, filtration etc ?? Or is the $$$$ of the whole 3000 mi oil change ruling the roost ??

It's most definately the "pretty bottles" to attract you and the 3000 mi change to rip you off.

look aroud the world and see that the oil companies don't rip us off over here.

Later Mates



Jim Harding
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8/10/2002
19:00:02

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I say forget Amsoil,they have spent alot of time trying to discredit other lubricant manufacturers and even non-lubricant manufacturers.They have done it only to promote their own product,not to educate ignorant lubrication consumers.There are other companies that can meet your lubrication needs just as well!



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8/10/2002
19:26:26

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Jim,
Your comments:
"I say forget Amsoil,they have spent alot of time trying to discredit
other lubricant manufacturers and even non-lubricant manufacturers."

One Word: BULL$HIT !!!

A "few" Independent Dealers may do that but that
is to their discredit ... not Amsoil's discredit.

How many races do you attend every year? Have you seen all the Amsoil Sponsorships? have you been to their hospility tents and actually spoken
to someone from Amsoil. I have.

Do you realize there may be a Mobil Decal (or someone else) on the Fender
but it's probably Amsoil (or Redline or Royal Purple) in the engine.
You keep traveling around this forum with nothing positive to say ...
...just Bull$hit and BASHING is all you do.

GO LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR !!!
WHEN YOU POINT A FINGER, FOUR ARE POINTING BACK AT YOU !

To borrow from your own words:
"you are one of the ignorant lubrication consumers"



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8/10/2002
19:46:48

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SuperxxxDak,
Your comments about a "few" overzealous Independent Amsoil Dealers is correct and I find them to be an embar"ass"ment. Get my drift.

Unfortunately Amsoil has no way to monitor everything that is said and posted, but they have revoked the "Dealer" priviledge many times in the past.

I for one continue to educate myself and understand as much as there is to know about the lubrication industry (even attending non-Amsoil conferences and seminars). You will never find me bashing another product, unless necessary, such as snake-oil additives.

As for as your comments regarding Jim,

I think you are, to put it bluntly, a bit off base. I have seen his posts and believe them to be informative and good advice. i just ignore him when he says "forget amsoil". :-)

Still here and always available,

Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com

Amsoil Dealer That Does Not Discredit Other Lubricant Manufacturers

P.S. Reminder: This should be a "help" forum, not a "bash" forum



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8/18/2002
23:31:06

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For the benefit of "Cosmo", who has been posting negative Amsoil comments, I am "bumping" this thread because I feel that everyone considering switching to Amsoil (or another synthetic oil) might learn something. Do your engine a favor ... switch to synthetic ... whether it is Amsoil or another quality 100% synthetic.

Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com

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WhiteHorse
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8/20/2002
13:56:17

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I read this entire thread and wanted to post an addition to what SoAfricanDak had to say.

In Europe the auto manufacturers recommended drain intervals are from 12,000-18,000 miles using petroleum products, and are moving even higher. In the U.S., it has been published that auto manufacturers are also going to be moving toward extended drain intervals of up to 15,000 miles in the not too distant future.

G.M. is currently moving toward a system that tells you when to change your oil based upon a computer program that evaluates your driving habits. Some other car companies are planning on having an on-board oil analyzer to tell you when to change your oil.

This will allow for shorter drains for poorer quality oils and longer drains for higher quality oils (Note: G.M.’s system will not distinguish between the two).

Remember the ad ... "you are what you eat"
I've got an addition, "your truck's engine is what it drinks"



MountainDak
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8/25/2002
11:32:01

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Due to the fact someone has been posting "motor oil" threads with the hope of attracting comments from, and then bashing, my good friend Steven Roark, AmsoilSponsor, I tracked down this thread and I am "bumping" it so that everyone can read it and become more informed.

Not afraid to sign my name:
Anthony Fisher
a.k.a. MountainDak



WallyR
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8/25/2002
11:46:46

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I requested not only a catalog, but a list of retailers in my zip code area over a month ago. Haven't received either.

Doesn't seem like very good customer service to me...

Wally



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8/25/2002
12:42:11

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Wally,

My good friend Tony Fisher (MountainDak) just called me at home and informed me that there was a "disgruntled WallyR" with a post on dodgedakotas.com. I remember very well your email to me:

"looking for a dealer in the plano, texas area, zip 75074." I believe it was Wylie, TX.

At that time it was my belief that you were not interested in ordering from a catalog and asked if there was an "on-the-shelf" retailer/dealer in your zipcode. I did a search and emailed you informing you that there was not one listed in your area. I don't recall you requesting a catalog but I do have your information and will request one Monday. You will have it delivered within two weeks.

I apologize if I misunderstood your request.

Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com

Amsoil Synthetic motor Oils, Lubrication, Filtration, and Truck Care Products



WallyR
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8/25/2002
15:00:41

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Thanks for the prompt reply. Minor communication error I suppose. Despite the fact that there is no retailer in my area and I'll have to order online, I still like to have catalogs on file whenever they are available.

BTW, what is the base material for your engine products? Do you offer any PAG lubricants?

Thx,
Wally



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8/27/2002
09:08:41

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Wally,

Unlike conventional motor oils that contain non-essential molecules that do virtually nothing to protect the engine – and contain contaminants that actually harm it – AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oil is pure and molecularly uniform.

Amsoil Basestock for AMSOIL Synthetic Oils are primarilly produced with Group IV Polyalphaolefin basestocks, Group IV includes polyalphaolefins (PAOs)

PAG Synthetics are Glycol based and used primarily in compressor applications and are used in limited applications. AMSOIL does not use these basestocks in the formulation of their Synthetic Lubricants.

Hope this answers your question and expect your catalog soon.

Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com

AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products



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8/27/2002
15:33:54

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Wally,
To further help answer your question, I sent Amsoil Tech your question. My answer was correct, and perhaps theirs offers more insight:

Per Amsoil Tech:
Polyalkylene glycol. PAG is a mixture of polymers and alkylene oxides. They are used mainly in high heat industrial applications (compressors etc....) PAG's withstand high heat, but are not as stable as PAO's.

Thanks,
Ed K
Amsoil Tech Services
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Happy to help,
Steven Roark



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8/27/2002
16:03:59

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And yet another "In your face" ploy to keep the seemingly endless spewing crap of how helpful a money hungry chickendick so called sponsor keeps the worthless tread going.

Yes this response IS infect worthless aswell

Have A nice day.

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8/27/2002
16:14:55

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Cory, (EyeTrip)

Do you have a personal gripe with me?

I have avoided the fray of allowing you to bait me into controversial and meaningless conversation.

I will offer the same courtesy to Dodge Dakota Enthusiasts. But they are ALL aware of your games. Just visit the "Members Site" and see what they are saying about you (yes I am a member). The talk is of blocking your IP, so have childish fun while you can.

Steven Roark




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8/27/2002
16:30:10

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Thank you Steven. If, in the future, AMSOIL does plan on manufacturing a PAG based lubricant, please let me know. We might be interested in some samples for testing.

Wally



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8/27/2002
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Yes I find your advertising tactics very distasteful. I don't understand why you continue to insist that I'm "Baiting" you. You made me mad. You’re the one that started this BS! Look at the time stamps. And another thing, if you know "My game" you would know that I'm slamming your stupid ADVERTISING! NOTHING ELS! As for your weak attempt of misinterpreting a thread, well from what I have seen in your responses that’s about par for you. So now your a liar too eh? How many aliases do you have? Why do you feed this thread?

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8/27/2002
20:13:44

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Cory (EyeTrip),
My first instinct is to ignore you (which I have done in the past), but my second instinct is to "take the high road" and try and explain things to you. Mark Hryckiewicz (owner of www.dodgedakotas.com) is the head of the IT department at my firm (and a friend). He does not appreciate what you are posting to his threads and will begin to delete them tomorrow.

I have two "names". I am "AmDude" as a member, but use "AmsoilSponsor" because that is how people know me here. Oh yes, I am a "Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com", as I am a paying advertiser spending over $500 year-to-date on this site alone. Memberships do not offset Mark's total expenses for operating this site and he depends on advertisers to remain online. If the childish behavior continues Mark might loose members and all of his advertisers and then the site will be shut down. (This is what I've been told).

To assist Mark, I also visit this site approximately once every half-hour (7AM to 10PM most days)to answer posts pertaining to my products, and to serve as volunteer moderator, and alert Mark of vulgar and inappropriate behavior. Also, you have never seen me discredit another manufacturers products, period (except for snake oil which could DAMAGE an engine).

As far as you being "mad", too bad as I have Mark's permission to use the name "AmsoilSponsor". Time to get glad and be thankful for advertisers.
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Before I go a bit of education (for Cory et al):

AMSOIL 0w-30, 5w-30 and 10w-30 synthetic motor oils are ALL 30 weight oils. ANY one of these can be used regardless if your vehicle owners manual says to use, for example, a 5W-30. The "w" means winter. In winter weather: the 0w will flow like a 0w, the 5W will flow like a 5w, and a 10w will flow like a 10W - only until the engine warms up (choose what's best for you depending upon your winter climate). In order to understand the differences one has to first understand that the numerical values given to these various weight oils are strictly empirical numbers. For example, "0w" does not mean that the oil has no weight (refer to my "0w-" thread). That is one of the reasons why we say it is strictly an empirical number and soon someone will introduce a "-5w" oil.

Thank you again everyone,

Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com

The Nice Amsoil Dealer on www.DodgeDakotas.com



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8/27/2002
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Jeff, That’s just not right.

It's too bad that your doing all the talking to Mark.
Your BS excuses for bumping or posting is the very thing I have a problem with. You should have your own forum labeled TECH or a banner or something. As for being mad you still haven't got it. That is exactly my point you’re a retard! Do I really need to waste everybody’s time by dredging up all the points that you seem to have forgotten?

Check the IP's before you go convicting me of aliases. You will be suprised seeing that you have such short sightedness.

Your threats are empty. If you were a grown man instead of a sniveling whiner you would let Mark E-mail me or something. I know where my money went and I don't recall your name involved anywhere!


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Just scrolling through this thread, look at the time stamps and how many times AmsoilSponsorpuke bumped it.

This is what I'm talking about. Bad advertising, but what do you expect from a lacky.

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