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LI Blackdak
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5/05/2002
01:52:51

Subject: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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i thought u said the end of the month you would be finished with the Protodak R/TT...lol
whats up with that???



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5/05/2002
10:54:08

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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I think he said something a while back about having some parts end up backordered...

Hey, designing a TT for a vehical that is solid and works good isn't easy! You have to remember, this is just two guys with families and a business to run doing this, not a company with a dedicated design team of engineers. Tom and Bernd have given us some good stuff (IAT adjuster, CAT Box, O2 SIMM, ect), as well as a place to purchase quality parts and get good customer support and service.

It'll be done when it's done. :0)

Besides, do you have the $3500 to buy one? When you have the money to purchase, you can whine about it not being done.

Of course, we're all waiting with baited breath to see the dyno results on both the R/T TT and Bernd's new V6.



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LI Blackdak
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5/05/2002
19:17:22

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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you're right about the money



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5/05/2002
20:53:34

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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Iv'e got the money. Have turbo, will buy..!

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5/05/2002
20:58:08

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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Me too!!! When I kill my engine, I am gonna get the twin turbo set up...hehe





Kris

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5/05/2002
22:24:35

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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Hey Kris, I'm not trying to be a smart@ss but I seen another post awhile back when you and a guy got into it about some stock stuff, saying you made a ton of money that's how your getting all your Mods. Why did you buy a used Powerdyne? Why not get something new and better? Let me guess you already knew about Bernd gettting the twin turbo set-up? lol



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5/05/2002
22:26:56

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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Me too handi2, I too am a 4.7L owner ready to buy, but it's gunna be a while untill it's our turn. Patience is a virtue..I hope.




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5/05/2002
22:46:03

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I got the powerdyne because I got it cheap!! hehe

I got it on ebay for a steal. Just cause I got alotta cash, it doesn't mean that I will pass up a good deal. I know that Powerdyne isn't the best blower to buy, but it also is not the worst. I prolly won't run it too long though, maybe 6 months or so, then I am curious about the TT setup because if they are wanting 450hp from a basically stock engine, then I am curious as to how many ponies I can push with the mods I am about to put on....hehe. Then when I get another itch, I am thinking of stroking the engine in a year or so....then comes the new rearend and transmission!! hehe



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5/06/2002
00:59:48

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damn, you MUST have got a ton of cash! can i have 1st dibs on your powerdyne when/if you sell it?

Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

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5/06/2002
01:15:00

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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LiBlackDak: Simple reason...you can't finish a project unless the manufacturer of the parts your using sends you the all the parts. (Wastegates were still on back order with delivery scheduled this week.) While we can rush the project, Tom and I wouldn't be comfortable with it. This isn't a "one-off" installation...the parts need to be duplicated for production kits (end-user installation).


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LI Blackdak
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5/06/2002
02:57:53

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k bernd. hows the NA thing workin for ya buddy. heard ur using a jet 2...sorry...I'm bored....as always....I NEED AN F'IN GIRLFRIEND!!!!....er :-(

AND NO!!!! I WON'T JUST TELL THEM HOW SLOW MY TRUCK IS ALL DAY



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5/06/2002
10:54:22

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I'm just trying to justify that there are plenty of people that have the money for a dependable Turbo system.
Hell, I have the money to buy anything I want but that's not the issue and I definately am not trying to be a smart ass.
I have had turbo powered cars before and I will buy one for the Dakota when available.
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5/06/2002
11:37:08

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hey Bernd, have you figured an installation price yet? (including the turbo itself) and will the fact that I have a 4x4 make a difference?



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5/06/2002
13:24:52

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$3500?? I talked to Tom at Ennis and he was quoting me more like $4500. Of course I always get the short end of the stick...no deals ever come along for me haha.

~Mike~

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5/06/2002
13:26:29

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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Hey Bernd did you see my R/T...I parked behind you at Austin, surely you heard me revving it up when we were about to leave ;)

~Mike~

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5/06/2002
14:35:34

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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yeah does 4x4 matter?? will we break the 4wd if we accelerate too hard??



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5/06/2002
17:21:02

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MikeD - $3500 was the preliminary estimate for the single turbo kits (3.9L/4.7L)

The 5.2/5.9L twin turbo kits are looking to be around the $5000 range at this time...

Later!



Tom "Slick"
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5/06/2002
17:42:04

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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Speaking of the 4x4... When is somebody going to switch the drivetrain on the R/T and fix up an AWD system.



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5/06/2002
18:01:37

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AWD.....hmmm






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5/06/2002
18:46:15

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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Ohh ok that was for my application...guess his question was for the smaller engine. My bad ;)

~Mike~

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5/06/2002
21:17:51

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There are some AWDs just lurking out here looking for more HP. All motion, no smoke!!!!

JP '01 CC SLT+ 4.7 AWD LSD



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5/07/2002
02:04:40

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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im wondering can you get 4x4 AWD option on an R/T?
if i had the $$$$ id go for it in a second, then a TT from bernd and almsot every other mod they got, but alas, lacking in $$$$



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5/07/2002
07:59:48

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SuperBee,
Nope- maybe in a Durango, but not a Dakota.



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5/07/2002
09:18:54

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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You can get the 5.9 with a 5-spd. (or auto.) in a AWD (4x4) and make your own R/T . Then add all the power the transfer case will hold!
I`ve got an AWD SLT QC with the 4.7 auto. and love it. I`ve been playing around with the idea of making it into a Cyclone/Typhoon clone , only better! I always wanted one of those , but never had the $. Now they don`t have enough room for me and the family + they`re 10 yrs. old.
But I could make mine just as fast with the right amt. of money (if I can save it for that long).



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5/07/2002
09:48:21

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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well if they ever decide to put that 5.7 into the dakota (awd) you won't have to do anything to it.






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5/07/2002
10:21:14

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That`s for sure! Don`t know how I`d explain to the wife exactly why we need another new truck though!
I can hear it now...what`s wrong with this one?
What do you mean it has more power,we don`t tow anything?



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5/07/2002
10:26:41

RE: Bernd!!! WHY NO TURBO YET???
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If the body style doesn't change switch it and see if she ever notices..



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5/07/2002
10:31:34

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yea just tell her that they did some safety upgrades and that you were concerned for her well being, and cost wasn't an issue.




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5/07/2002
13:51:01

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LOL
good ideas



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