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4/04/2002
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I'm looking into a home brew intake for a Sport Plus V6 3.9 4X4 and was wondering which air filter to get. So far I've had two suggestions...1> KNN-RE-0950 and 2> KNN-RE-0810. Which would you suggest?
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Cecil
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4/04/2002
19:30:55
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Didn't you say you just got dak or it's coming tomarrow? and your already adding mod's.slow down a bit drive it for a while work out all the bugs then add mod's to it. you never know you might have to take it back:(
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CW
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4/04/2002
20:42:39
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Ahh the heck with waiting. Just look it over good before you buy it. The first week I owned my dakota I put on all the stuff off of my last one. IAT adjuster, cat back system, K&N drop in. Then had everything that I have on now by 3000 miles.
2001 4.7 RC 5sp 3.92 LSD
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BlackDakRacer
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4/04/2002
23:21:07
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ASK KRIS(5pnt9ltrluv) about not wanting to wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~~Eric
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/04/2002
23:47:01
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hehe, nope. Instant gratification is WAY better than waiting.....
So far, I have spent roughly $5000 in mods and aftermarket parts ( including ones that are not on the truck yet, like the supercharger, roll pan, suspension, and stuff like that.) I haven't even had the truck for a month yet....hehe. I haven't even made my first payment yet!!!!!!!
Now only if my Corbeau seats would get here.....
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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Got Dak?
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4/05/2002
10:47:50
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Actually, I was going to drive it for a while before I changed the intake, I just wanted to get the heads up on what type of filter to use, but so far no one has answered my question...does anybody know?
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DakotaDan
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4/05/2002
12:14:58
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GOT DAK?
There are a lot of different sizes that can work on a home brew setup, here's a link to K&N's Universal Air Filters you can look up the dimensions of the one's you listed above or find a size that will work for you. If you go to Summit's web site you can search the part # under Mfg. and get a price.
K&N's Universal Air Filters
If you like I can e-mail you a photo of one I made for my son's Olds Cutlass.
Dan
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
12:19:08
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I'd go with the KNN-RE-0950
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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DakotaDan
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4/05/2002
12:25:01
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5pnt9ltrluv
Your a bad influnce ;) hehehe..........
"spent roughly $5000 in mods and aftermarket parts"
"I haven't even made my first payment yet!!!!!!! "
Dan
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
12:28:53
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hehe, and there is more coming!! gotta buy the heads and intake.....
Someone stop me!!!!!!!
hehe
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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DakotaDan
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4/05/2002
12:33:17
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Kris time for name change
5pnt9ltrluv > Insane5.9
Dan
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
12:42:58
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hmmm.....i likey!!!!!!
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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DakotaDan
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4/05/2002
12:53:06
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Kris
Have you got personalized Plates yet ?
Dan
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
13:11:31
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not yet, I want to finish with the mods before I put bragging rights on my truck...hehe
I just ordered the heads and rockers from Marty @ KRC Performance....what a nice fella....
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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Crusty
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4/05/2002
13:25:17
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I cant wait till the day I can spend money like 5pnt9ltrluv. You are a true hero. What exactly does your screen name mean? I cant figure it out for the life of me?
2002 4x4
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
15:17:47
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wow, a hero huh... never thought of it that way....
it means= 5.9 liter (litre for the canucks) love.
hehe it used to be 2pnt5ltrluv.
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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DakotaDan
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4/05/2002
16:47:59
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2pnt5ltrluv + 2pnt5ltrluv = 5pnt9ltrluv
I wish my truck could multiply ;)
Dan
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
17:39:57
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hehe
5pnt9ltrluv+ moolah= super truck.....
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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DakotaDan
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4/05/2002
18:15:38
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Your going to have to find a new hobby when you run out of Mods to do !
Dan
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
18:22:52
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Nah, I put off one hobby for this truck. I am restoring a 1970 VW convertible. I am gonna make it show quality.
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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QUADMAN
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4/05/2002
18:34:46
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Hey 5pnt, need a brother who has a dakota that you can help modify?
YOUR ONLY WORTH WHAT YOU OWE!
3" Body Lift, 33x12.50x15 MTR's, Procomp Prerunner Lightbar, Flow 40 with duals, K&N Drop-in
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Dr0p0ff
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4/05/2002
18:41:39
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hey kris.. which corbeaus did you get? i just ordered my A4's from jonas a couple days ago. can't wait to get em installed!
Sgt G
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
18:55:13
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Dr0p- I got the Carerra's in Blue.....supersweet....
QUADMAN- I already have a bloodsucking brother...hehe
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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5pnt9ltrluv
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4/05/2002
22:56:11
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Dr0p- Just in from Jonas....The brackets are on back order for my seats....8 weeks!!!! But I am gonna get the universal brackets instead and drill em...Check to see if your brackets are available....
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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JimmyT
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4/26/2003
13:49:14
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I pulled up this old thread because I did not want to start a new one. I know a lot of guys replace stock OEM with K&N becauses it reduces restriction to the airbox assembly. The general opinion around here is that K&N filters are not good for our trucks since they allow more dirt into the engine. This results in higher Si numbers. However, do we really know if these higher numbers are bad? Since we are dealing in ppm, would the increase be actually detrimental to an engine?
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AmsoilSponsor
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4/26/2003
14:29:51
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I am not posting to promote nor discredit any manufacturers equipment. Just adding my 2 cents for those who might care.
Yes, any increase in silicon from dirt is bad.
You can often see on analysis when high silicon is dirt, and not other forms of silicon (gasket material, antifoaming agents, etc), because then the wear metals across the board are higher.
Not all cases with K&N air filters show very high silicon, but generally speaking they are not as efficient at trapping dirt as paper filters are.
Even if you only see a 2 or 3ppm increase in dirt over a 5k mile interval, it will definitely reduce your engine's life over the long term. By how much or how little, it's hard to pinpoint exactly though.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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01Motorsport
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4/26/2003
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"2 or 3ppm"/ 2 or 3 parts per million. That's a ratio of 2:1,000,000 or 3:1,000,000. I think I can live with the reduced wear my K&N drop-in affords from lower throttle openings and less strain on the engine in daily driving, i.e. longer engine life.
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Shady
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4/27/2003
08:40:53
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Amsoil Sponsor and 01Motorsport,
Silicon is SAND (DIRT) ... Abrasive like in sandpaper or sandblasting.
I think you both make valid comments. I like to see single digit silicon (dirt). (that is a 1 to 7). If the increase of 2-3ppm Amsoil Sponsor mentions puts you in the high single digits (8-9ppm), or the horrible case of over 10ppm, I would be concerned as these would be high silicon #'s. Not only is it the high silicon, but K&N has larger pores for higher air flow and the joke around here is that it keeps out "Bricks and Birds". 90% of the analysis I review using a K&N results in elevated silicon (dirt) AND associated high wear metals. I would suggest everyone do an analysis with their K&N, then replace the K&N for a bit with an OEM/paper element, check your induction system closely for leaks and re-sample at 2000 to 3000 miles. IMHO, K&N is great for weekend racing for not for daily driving.
If there are results showing higher levels of silicon with the K&N's, why risk using it? Honestly, I don't think the little flow gains that one might get are worth chancing more dirt getting into the engine.
P.S. As you all know there are other sources of leaks that may cause an increase in dirt ingestion: PCV grommet, IAC breather tube, vacuum leaks, etc...
Conclusion: There are enough ways for silicon to enter the engine. Why use a K&N and risk additional silicon contamination for a "little" more air flow.
Shady, former mechanic, now shade tree
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