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J Morrow
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11/12/2001
17:15:23

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Ok I have a question, when you start your truck(mine's an automatic) and get ready to put it into gear, aren't you supposed to have to press on the break before it moves out of park? If so my truck doesn't do this. I can pull the shifter all the way down if I wanted to from park and I don't even need to be anywhere around the break. Isn't this a safety issue? If so what can I do about it? And who do I need to talk to?

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I just needed to know.

Thanks,
Josh

2000 CC Sport 4x4, 4.7, auto



kennungesser
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11/12/2001
17:19:34

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Yes, you have to tap the brake first,at least in mine,I would have it checked out,may be something else wrong in there just waiting to raise it's ugly head. Play it safe.

Kenneth l Nungesser

SuperDak
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11/12/2001
17:30:30

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nothing is wrong...i have an auto and it does the same thing. i dont think you need to worry about safety. Just make sure no one is standing behind the truck before you put it in reverse



J Morrow
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11/12/2001
17:41:09

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Well what if you were to have a child(say a 4-8 yr old while you were running and errand or something) in there and they were playing with the steering column and the child slipped it into gear since you don't have to push the brake. Isn't that a safety issue?



MikeC
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11/12/2001
18:01:03

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You shouldn't be able to shift it if the ignition isn't on. So as long as you don't leave it running with the kiddo's in it, you should be fine.




jimmeyjack
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11/12/2001
18:04:24

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if you leave a child in a car with it running/keys in ignition you got more than safety issues to deal with!!!



Hank
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11/12/2001
18:21:30

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i think i heard somewhere that it was only a law for the brake to be depressed before shifting in cars, since its a truck it doesnt apply. dont hold me to this, i'm not entirely sure

-Hank
99 4x2 RC 3.9L 5spd



HSKR
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11/12/2001
19:44:07

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Isn't it against the law to leave an unattended child in the vehicle?? I think you need to re-examine your parenting skills.





J Morrow
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11/12/2001
20:05:25

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I was just giving an example, because when I was a child I was playing in my dads old chevy citation and I put it in gear. I was like 6 or something and he had to run back in the house because he forgot something and we were going to the grocery store. The car started coasting down the driveway toward the street and he caught it luckily. Its just and example. I just thought it was weird that I could get out of park without touching the brake.



swampdak
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11/12/2001
20:24:35

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Mine also will go into gear without foot on break.I have no probs with this but it did throw me off at first as I was used to the other way.

Y2K CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT K&N 16.35/82.41

SuperDak
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11/12/2001
20:59:01

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i was wondering...does anyone know what the nuetral gear is for?



kennungesser
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11/12/2001
21:04:49

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Um , O.K ,now I feel stupid,but after I posted the first reply,I had to go to Krogers,and it will go into gear. See,thats why mom usued to tell me to think before I speak. Sorry about that,but it looks like the other guys here took care of you.
Thanks for not flaming me on that one , guys!!

Kenneth l Nungesser

Kevin Moore
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11/12/2001
21:32:07

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The 2002 daks have changed this, now you have to put your foot on the brake.



J Morrow
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11/12/2001
21:36:53

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So it is "OK" that the 2000 can go into gear without touching the brake?



HSKR
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11/12/2001
21:55:54

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Nuetral is so you can push your truck through the staging lanes at the track so the engine doesn't get too hot before you race. Also so you can tow your truck. Also if you ever have a stuck throttle to where the engine won't slow down, you can shift into neutral and let it slow down before you shut the truck off and lose power teering and power brakes.





jj
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11/13/2001
00:51:30

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BRAKE SHIFT INTERLOCK: The brake shift interlock (sometimes referred to as the park shift interlock) is a safety device that prevents a vehicle with an automatic transmission from being moved out of "park" and into "drive" or "reverse" until the driver depresses the brake pedal. The presence of the brake shift interlock ensures that a vehicle is not inadvertently moved into reverse or drive, thereby causing a hazard to those in and around the vehicle. Such unintentional "rollaway" accidents have been caused by children and even pets, and have resulted in property damage, bodily injury, and even death.

The brake shift interlock is particularly important for minivans because they are designed for families with children, and they provide passengers easy access between the front and back seats.

Chrysler minivans, including the Dodge Caravan, Plymouth Voyager, and Chrysler Town and Country, are the most popular minivans in America, and Chrysler has promoted them on the basis of safety, proudly proclaiming them to be the "safest minivan in the world."

However, while other companies have been installing the brake shift interlock as a standard safety device since the early 1990's, Chrysler has failed to do so. As a result, there have an unknown number of "rollaway" accidents resulting in injury and death, which might have been prevented with the installation of the brake shift interlock - a $9.00 part.include most chrysler products ,,jj





BErespon
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11/13/2001
13:24:26

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Here's a novel idea.....how about all of the motorists out there get their collective head out of their a$$ and use common sense while driving?
Automatics w/o shift brake interlocks have been around for years and years......why all of a sudden is there a need for yet another so called safety device to protect us from ourselves? If this device is so necessary, then why didn't our best friend (government) mandate it YEARS ago? Seems like the dumber we get, the more and more our big best friend (government) gets involved with our lives. That's not necessarily something I get a warm fuzzy feeling about. More government involvement almost always means more taxes and bureaucracy....do we need more of this?



J Morrow
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11/13/2001
16:29:52

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The only reason I even asked this question is because I saw something on tv like the club for your car but instead it goes on your brake to prevent the thief from stealing your car. But I was thinking that this wouldn't work on my truck because i can shift into gear without touching the brake.



HSKR
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11/13/2001
17:04:46

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Sure they can shift it into gear, but would you steal a vehicle with no control over the brakes??? Of course, I guess you could always use e-brake, but most people don't think of that.



Fillupd
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11/13/2001
18:42:59

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I don't mean to be some kind of smart a$$, but I must comment on jj's post. I am impressed, so many big words and so few mistakes in such a long post. I read it a cupul a times cause it waz sew injoyabl to read a post were you didnt hav ta desipher what the word was. I agree, with the comments about the feature being necessary. Next time you get in your truck and put in gear, think about where your foot is. It's on the brake, isn't it kind of automatic ?



jj
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11/13/2001
20:29:30

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Dear Mr. fu :

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Sincerely,
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Fillupd
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11/13/2001
20:47:07

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jj, Am I Mr.fu, I hope you didn't take my innocent comment personally and as a slam to you. Sheeesh I was just ribbun ya a bit.
Sorry, Phil



sandman
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11/13/2001
21:37:00

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It is normal. My 2001 does not require me to push the brake pedal down. I do not like most safety features like this. If you are too stupid to operate your vechile at a standstill then you definately should not be operateing a moveing vechile.



DeaPee
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11/14/2001
01:14:50

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Just want to add my two cents...

my 01 Dak shifts out of park without hitting the break.

I know I'm famous for telling stories that no one reads here, but this one time at work, I parked a Taurus behind some moron's Benz. This guy left it running with his little kid in it. Sure enough, she manages to put the POS in reverse (just as I'm getting out of the car I parked). Needless to say, I got my head rammed into the A-Pillar and had a little shouting match with the idiot of a driver who not only left his car running with a 5 year old kid in it, but left it running in-doors right infront of a sign that says "PLEASE TURN VEHICLES OFF...".

- Dave
- 01 RC SLT 4x4 3.9 BLACK



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