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11/24/2007
16:39:08

Subject: Mobil 1 - Amsoil
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here you go gentlemen!
everyone saying M1 isnt a syn oil
its group 3
Steve the amsoil guy feeding you all the hype about amsoil
well here read this!

""Q: AMSOIL will be using a different formula for its XL-7500 Motor Oils. Why did AMSOIL change the formula?

A: Our XL-7500 oils are the oils of choice in the retail oil change market, and primarily because of warranty concerns the customers in this market require API-certified oils. In order to obtain API SL/ILSAC GF-3 certification and still remain cost-competitive with the other oils sold at retail oil change outlets, we had to change to Group III basestocks. To obtain API certification with our top tier basestocks would have priced our Dealers out of the market.""

and that my friends taken right from their own site!

http://www.amsoil.com/articlespr/article_xl7500.aspx



Stan
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11/24/2007
18:23:58

RE: Mobil 1 - Amsoil
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that is just their XL line for dummies
afraid of synthetic oil (like my 90 yr old grandpa)

hahahahahahahahahahahaha


you gotta do better than that



agree
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11/24/2007
18:30:47

RE: Mobil 1 - Amsoil
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At least amsoil is honest and tells you on
their website that one of their oil is not
group 4.

On the other hand MOBIL 1 lies and keeps it a
secret that their ENTIRE line is group 3 fake
synthetic

I will go with the company i trust. Amsoil



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11/24/2007
21:21:15

RE: Mobil 1 - Amsoil
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Honest? gee pretty funny
Steve has been putting M1 down
claiming it wasnt "true" syn oil
that it was only group 3
well gee if amsoil uses group 3 its
"true" syn oil?
screw off!
the truth is out
and I see M1 and Royal Purple are API certified!
where as amsoil had to cook up an oil to get it API certified! and its only 1 of the oils in their line that got API certified!



food4 thought
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11/24/2007
22:38:55

RE: Mobil 1 - Amsoil
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AMSOIL COULN'T GET API CERTIFIED BECAUSE IT
CAUSES PREMATURE CAT-CON FAILURES !!!


" Beware of the blank spot for the %zinc on Amsoil.

The facts are as follows:

1. Amsoil products, other than the XL-7500 line, cannot
be API certified because the level of ZDDP exceeds
the API limits which results in too much phosphorus.
This is not in dispute, Amsoil stated this. See:

"groups.google.com/groups?q=zdp+amsoil&hl=en&safe=off&rnum=1&ic=1&selm=3B02A3A8.185B25C7%40pinn.net"

2. The API limit on the amount of ZDDP was put in place
because the phosphorus in the ZDDP shortens the life
of the catalytic converter; the more ZDDP the shorter
the life of the catalytic converter.

"http://www.oldengine.org/unfaq/additive.htm"
"http://www.mixoil.com/ge_info.htm" scroll down to "Antiwear-EP"




Stan
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11/25/2007
08:58:24

RE: Mobil 1 - Amsoil
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old news from 2002.

Amsoil, RP and Redline reduced the amount
of ZDDP after studies showed that excess
ZDDP could damage catalitic converters.

RP switched to MOLY which is worse for the engine.
Amsoil and redline lowered the amount of ZDDP.



The REAL flaw was the material in the cats
and not necessarily the levels of ZDDP.




sure
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11/25/2007
11:45:22

RE: Mobil 1 - Amsoil
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really?
Gee but yet Royal Purple, Mobil 1
etc, etc are API certified
amsoil still isn't

gee wonder why ?????



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11/25/2007
13:57:22

is it corn oil
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maybe because amsoil is recycled corn oil or is it conola oil

use it for french fries

I sure as hell would not put it in any car.



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