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Brett
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3/15/2006
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How does everyone feel about the Lucas Oil products. The oil stabilizer, injector cleaner and all that fun stuff! I am going to use the oil stabilizer for the first time. I have always liked the Lucas Oil line, never used it though.
Fun Fact: I have actually drag raced Morgan Lucas.
The driver of the Lucas Oil Top Fuel dragster! He won!! nO suprise there!!



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3/16/2006
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Go to the Amsoil web site and check the technical specifications. Lab stuff, not testamonials.
Lucas sponsors a lot of things. I hear there are racers who don't tell their sponsors they actually use Amsoil.



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3/16/2006
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Lucas High Performance 10W-30 Synthetic Racing Oil

(Note: All Lucas Motor Oils are listed as RACING OIL on Lucas Website)

"An excellent product for consistent viscosity. Blended with lubricity agents and anti-seize agents to control drag."

Chemical Name: Petro Hydrocarbon plus Additives

Formula: Proprietary Information

Components: Hydrotreated distillate, heavy paraffin, solvent dewaxed distillate, zinc, copper, calcium, and magnesium detergents

Addidtives that you do not want in a daily driver motor oil.

... "Additives For Professional Race Drivers Only"

In the world of professional racing, the split-second advantage that might be gained from using such a product could be the difference between victory and defeat. Virtually all of the downside or detrimental effects attached to these products are related to extended, long-term usage. For short-life, high-reving, ultra-high performance engines designed to last no longer than one racing season (or in some cases, one single race), the long-term effects of oil additives need not even be considered (as the engine will be torn down and rebuilt after each race).

I would NOT recommend Lucas Motor Oil in a passenger vehicle.

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Lucas Oil Stabalizer

I would NOT recommend Lucas Stabalizer in a motor oil.

Lucas Oil Stabalizer ... in all their demonstration machines ... show how the oil will climb in that little gearwheel contraption. Kinda neat, EXCEPT ... motors have an oil pump so why do you need an additive in a motor oil to help it climb? The oil has more than sufficient ability to get onto and into all parts of an engine. Second, you want the oil to flow ... and by increaseing the tackiness or stickiness to an oil (which is what Lucas promotes), it would reduce flow.

Your Engine needs ... Flow and Filtration.
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You want the oil to flow ... and by increaseing the tackiness or stickiness to an oil (which is what Lucas Oil Stabalizer promotes), it would reduce flow.

Your Engine needs ... FLOW and Filtration.

CAUTION: Use Lucas Oil Stabalizer AT YOUR OWN RISK!
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3/16/2006
10:53:36

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What about Restore engine restorer? It claims to improve the seal between the piston rings and the cylinder walls by sealing scratches and somesuch. It also claims NOT to modify the characteristics of the oil - which is what an 'oil stabilizer' (like the above mentioned) would do.



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3/16/2006
11:33:57

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All things considered. I have heard nothing but good things at local Auto shops and mechanics. I think I will give it a try. I will let you guys know if anything bad happens!



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3/17/2006
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i recommend the lucas oil products. from my experience, i have tried just about every fuel system cleaner on the market and lucas has worked the best. i use the oil stabilizer in my jeep in the motor, tranny, and front and rear end. like the amsoil guy said, engines have an oil pump. duh... the most damage to an engine is a dry start. if you use the lucas oil stabilizer correctly, it helps the oil stay in places that it needs to be. after you start your engine, it takes a little bit to circulate oil to all of the engine. as for me, i have used amsiol products before and have had a very bad experience with the products and customer service from them. i use royal purple and lucas. just my .02 cents.

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3/17/2006
17:48:15

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Nothing is worse than a business man trying to be a mechanic. Keep copying and pasting info from other sites Amsoil sponser AKA Oil Whore.



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3/18/2006
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Well I changed my oil and added the forbidden Lucas Oil treatment and the injector cleaner and my truck is still running. Infact the engine IS quieter and there is a hint of more power when I kick it down. But I am sure according to all you Lucas haters, my truck will start to fall apart shortly!!



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3/19/2006
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Fuel additives? Waste of money. I occasionally use an alcohol-free fuel injector when I change my oil (I do them at the same time) but if you are trying to improve your MPG it will not help... even lucas.

Oil additives are a different story. They help make the rest of your oil more slippery. As someone else said though, that may translate to "tackiness" which isn't something I'd pay for. Why waste 7 bucks on a bottle of Lucas when you can just buy one quart of Mobil 1 5W-30 synthetic oil? That will only cost you 4 bucks, 5 bucks tops.

I will say that I swear by transmission conditioners. I don't necessarily use lucas (i use valvoline)-- but I think after the trans is good and broken in (say around the 30k mile mark) You should add some transmission conditioner/sealer.



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3/19/2006
00:12:39

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"What about Restore engine restorer?"

I'd probably use that ONCE in the vehicles lifetime-- say around the 160,000 mile marker. And even then, I would probably make due without it.



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3/19/2006
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Regarding Restore: Here is some information from their May 27th, 1980 Patent:

"..relates to a lubricant additive comprising a mixture of minute shpherical copper and lead particles suspended in various lubricant bases depending on application. The minute spherical metal particles are presented to friction surfaces where they reduce friction by functioning as tiny ball bearings or platelets. In addition to heat and pressure, the metal particles, particularly the copper particles, will plate on high wear areas where base metal has been removed by wear. The additive has been found to substancially reduce friction and wear between relatively moving parts...The particle size of the lead and copper may be as high as 15um to 20um in diameter...The ratios of copper to lead or lead to copper vary depending on (1) heat transfer requirements, (2) coating, (3) filling of pores and voids. The ratio of total mixed weight of mixed metal powder to the base carrier is from about 1/2 to 3oz of base carrier..."
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RESTORE ??? Internal combustion engines are lubricated by a very thin film of oil between the moving metal parts, or pressurized oil between bearings. You can read that RESTORE contains suspended "powdered metals" (copper/lead/etc.), that they claim will fill in scratches in cylinder walls and on pistons. Why introduce anything foreign into your engine? Introducting soft metals into lubricating oil can NOT be a good thing. Notice the directions say "SHAKE WELL before use." If they say that, it's FULL of solids! Plus, with today's nano-fiber oil filter technology, these "powdered metals" would get trapped in your filter and reduce capacity, flow and filtration capabilities.

I would certainly hesitate using it ( actually I would NOT use it ... period ) but the choice is always yours.
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Shatto
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3/19/2006
22:23:50

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If you want an additive to make oil slippy, why not use STP? Remember Andy, the Sumo Wrestler and the screwdriver?
After playing all those games: Franz toilet paper oil filter, everybodys "better than the other guy's oil" including Arco Graphite oil, I finally settled on a group of products; bypass oil filtration, air filter and lubricants that allowed my 98 Dakota V6 automatic to achieve 500,000 miles on the original running gear.
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