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weightset
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1/14/2006
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what do you guys think about castrol syntec unlock the power motor oil. How does it perform in your daks
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93SuperDak
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1/14/2006
15:56:17
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I use it - mostly because its the easiest to get. I use 20/50 and it can be hard to find.
Gotta love them on ramps!
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jpkomm
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1/14/2006
16:16:38
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I've used Castrol Syntec for about 6 years in my various vehicles and haven't had any problems with it. It lasts a bit longer than conventional motor oil and will make your engine run a bit smoother as well. I just recently switched to AMSOIL and believe I will be sticking with it since their drain intervals are longer, my engine runs even smoother, and I am getting about 1 more mpg on average. However, if I had to drop AMSOIL, I'd probably go back to Castrol Syntec.
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1/14/2006
17:32:28
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Some of the following post was borrowed, some is original:
Castrol is NOT a 100% true full synthetic no matter how they choose to advertise and decieve. Castrol was reformulated in late 1998. Before Syntec was reformulated, it was actually a full synthetic using a full synthetic base stock with PAO's just like Mobil1, Amsoil, and 90% of the true synthetics out there. Once Castrol reformulated in late 1998, it was a known fact that Castrol did NOT contain any PAO's.
In fact, Castrol uses a Group III base stock which is a hydrocracked highly refined mineral oil with some synthetic additives. This is no secret, Mobil filed a complaint with the National Advertising Division of the Council of Better Business Bureaus alleging that Castrol was engaging in false advertising by claiming their Group III based Syntec was "fully synthetic". The NAD rulled that based on the evidence put forth, Group III base oil could legitmately be called "synthetic" ... even if they ARE NOT.
The NAD is merely a self-regulatory arm of the BBB and has no legal standing whatsoever in the U.S. Hence, their ruling in this matter does not make it "legal" to claim that a Group III oil is "synthetic." It merely means that for any entity willing to abide by the NAD's guidelines, a Group III oil can be ADVERTISED under those guidelines as a synthetic. The BBB certainly does not know motor oils.
If the base stock was a highly refined Group III base oil, then how could Castrol rightfully and legally call it a full synthetic? Unfortunately, Mobil lost the battle because of how the term "full synthetic" is defined by the API or SAE(can't remember which one).
A full synthetic motor oil is defined on it's ability to perform, not by what it's made or composed of. The SCAM here, is that if a company takes a cheap dino oil, hydrocracks it, adds a few synthetic additives, and it ends up meeting the minimum specifications of how a synthetic oil is supposed to perform, then the manufacturer is allowed by this vague and deceptive definition to sell and market thier oil as a "full synthetic!!!"
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If you guys like Castrol, that's fine because it's a good FAKE synthetic oil. But don't expect it to perform like a full synthetic oil, giving you the same performance of a true synthetic oil ... like Mobil1, Amsoil, etc., because Castrol is NOT a true synthetic.
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Why Synthetic Oils? Why Amsoil?
Most synthetics have similarly good typical specs, but the performance from better additives, more shear stable VI, higher TBN, etc, can not be easily demonstrated with a test or a chart. These attributes of AMSOIL show up by controlling acids in the oil, eliminating corrosion in the engine, maintaining viscosity throughout the drain interval helping improve performance in the areas of fuel economy and cold weather starting, keeping contaminants in suspension until they get to the oil filter for removal or the oil is drained, and generally keeping the engine cleaner and deposit free. These benefits are not easily demonstrated with a test or a chart. Amsoil produces a SUPERIOR Synthetic Motor Oil by using only the best base oils and additives.
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Benefits of using Amsoil Synthetic Motor Oils:
Immediate start-up protection. You will experience immediate startup protection. Sixty percent of all engine wear occurs at startup. AMSOIL motor oils use high polarity base stocks and special anti-wear agents that form a thin film that clings to engine parts, preventing metal to metal contact. AMSOIL motor oils also lubricate vital engine components by quickly flowing through the engine immediately after startup.
Higher engine RPM's and more power. AMSOIL synthetic motor oil reduces friction more effectively than conventional oils, so engine bearings rotate easier. This saves energy and conserves fuel. When the engine doesn't have to work as hard to move its parts, that power can now be used to drive the vehicle. Many new AMSOIL users report their shift points actually decrease due to the added power their engines experience.
Increased fuel efficiency (better MPG). Since AMSOIL synthetic motor oils create less friction, they also help reduce fuel consumption, increasing a vehicle's fuel economy significantly. Operating with AMSOIL, the engine doesn't have to work as hard to turn the wheels, so it takes less fuel to run.
Lower Operating Tempertures. AMSOIL motor oils can reduce excessive operating tempertures of oil sumps by up to 20 degrees F compared to conventional motor oils. Friction generates heat and since AMSOIL motor oils reduce friction, less heat is generated. AMSOIL motor oils also carry heat away from the engine more efficiently than conventional oils to further enhance the cooling process.
Easier Starting in Cold Weather ... and Winter is coming. Conventional motor oils contain wax impurities that cause the oil to thicken at low tempertures, which slows the flow of oil through the engine at startup and promotes premature wear. They can thicken to the point where the engine won't even turn over and start. AMSOIL is pure and contains no wax. AMSOIL will pour at 60 degrees below zero. Engines start in cold weather as if it were summer. AMSOIL eliminates the need for block heaters. As users of this fantastic product know, in the winter you turn the key and go, no warmup needed.
These are just the immediate benefits from AMSOIL, long term your engine will last much longer, you'll have less time in the shop, and your vehicle will run like new longer.
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jpkomm
Dodge Dakota
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1/14/2006
17:59:22
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Heya Steven. Haven't seen any of your posts in a while (or atleast not as frequent). Glad you're not being a stranger! I enjoy reading your posts.
Well, I never really "implied" Castrol Syntec was a fully syntheic. Franky it never lasted as long as typical syntheics that I've tried, but I was raised on Castrol so old habits die hard. It only lasted marginally longer on my vehicle applications (4k miles instead of 3k miles).
Steven, my truck is now a AMSOIL Dakota and it has never been happier. I'm glad you pointed me to the AMSOIL way of doing things. Thanks! Transmission has been flushed with AMSOIL Universal ATF, Tranfer case fluid changed, both front and rear differential fluid changed with 75w-90 AMSOIL synthetic gear lube, and finally my motor is running 5w-30 XL Synthetic oil. Great stuff!
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Dark Jedi
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1/15/2006
04:49:35
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sorry steven but castrol 0w-30 known as german castrol and 5w-40 which is known as belgium castrol are true synthetic oil. castrol imports these 2 oils. so not all castrol syntec is a group 3 hydrocracked. these 2 oils are true group 4. I am running 0w-30 in my truck a 03 with the 4.7 and must say it runs way smoother through the whole rpm range unlike the M-1 ever could in my truck. some people goes over 5,000 OIC on the 0w-30. [img]http://home.comcast.net/~dsmphotos/gc/4.jpg[/img]
here is a pic of 0w-30 German Castrol or like the pic looks its also called Green Castrol. the new formula is gold color. never seen a green tinted motor oil lol
I hope the pic displays if not copy and paste.
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AmsoilSponsor
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1/15/2006
11:37:33
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You are correct, I missed a part of the first post referring to the "unlock the power" Castrol, which is the GC and BC which compare favorably with other top brand synthetic oils. But ONLY those two ... because most of the Castrol sold to consumers is "hydrocracked" petroleum and not 100% synthetic.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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Dark Jedi
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1/15/2006
13:32:39
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yeah I know its the only 2. why I said only those 2 are true syn. =-Þ
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scoobydoo
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1/15/2006
15:32:52
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why buy from a british company [ castrol ] and then buy their import german oil [ german castrol ]. does not make sense to me. isn't amsoil american?
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DanK
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1/15/2006
18:21:39
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Go to this forum:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Once you register (it's free), you can log on and learn all you ever wanted to know about motor oil.
I've used up entire weekends here. Lots of good stuff.
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Dark Jedi
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22:19:40
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simple scoobydoo german castrol has some of the best additive packs out there compare to M-1. if your so worried about buying american. then you have to stop buying gas and most oils unless synthetic) as most of our oil comes from the middle east to make it in to gas and oil and all other products that comes from crude oil. I use what works best in my truck and is cheaper. GC 0w-30 is cheaper than amsoil per quart.
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.bob.
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1/16/2006
08:14:25
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DanK, .... www.bobistheoilguy.com (also known as BITOG), .. WAS owned by a guy named "BOB" ... but NO MORE, since he was FORCED to sell it ... by the oil company he sells for .... Schaeffers ..... which is heavily advertised on that site.
If Schaeffers forced him to sell the site, they must have figured out that there was something wrong with it. I'll tell you what it was ... "Biased Opinions" and LIABILITY ISSUES (non-truths) .. therefore creating a conflict of interest.
Yeah, I've visited that site many times. A buncha "shade tree" mechanics with nothing better to do but argue about oil.
Even they can't agree on what is the best. If they could the site would fold because there would be nuthin to argue.
To quote you, "I've used up entire weekends here. Lots of good stuff".
HUH?
You need a GIRLFRIEND and a different kind of lubricant, K-Y Jelly maybe?
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Savage
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1/16/2006
08:34:09
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Dark Jedi regurgitates what he reads from another forum as if it were fact.
Trying to sound like the real oil expert.
Q: Did you get your degree in oil engineering?
One thing is for certain.
There is very little fact in web forums.
I have yet to see a real expert post online for free.
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Dark Jedi
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1/16/2006
14:35:54
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so savage beings you said There is very little fact in web forums. I guess you mean this fourm too. as this site has alot of people that regurgitates what they read from another forum as if it were fact. I know for a fact that GC 0w-30 runs better than M-1 5w-30 ever would in my truck.
your right no one can agree on whats the best oil out there. because some people are set on dino oils are the best. while others are set on synthetics. while even more are best bang for the buck.
your right I dont have a degree in oil engineering. but if i can save a buck on a quart of oil that preforms better than M-1. well guess what thats a no brainer.
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