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Kaderdak
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4/01/2005
11:49:08

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Just looking for some guys out there who have used seafoam in their trucks, how well does it work and what's the best method for using it?

My '97 has 120,000 miles on it, and I bought it last year and have no idea what the maintenance on it was like before I got it. Regardless, the oil always comes out really dirty, and last summer I had the intake off and it's pretty obvious there's some decent amount of crap building up in there. Just looking for something to clean out my internals a bit. Are there any other products other than seafoam that anyone would recommend? thanks for all your help.



Dan M
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4/01/2005
12:54:15

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Do the engine flush service and air induction service. Both will get more crap out than the seafoam. Don't get me wrong, seafoam is good. I use it per directions on the can. It will just take longer to work than the services mentioned above.

I am now a big believer in the engine flush service, I'm planning on getting it done once a year.

I use 1 can for all systems - air intake (PCV), oil and into the gas tank.


- Dan M



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4/01/2005
13:08:05

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One of the questions I have is that is says to add to engine oil crankcase......is there a recommended amount of time you should leave it in there before you do an oil change to ensure it does the proper amount of cleaning? Should you put on a new oil filter before starting the process?

What exactly do you mean when you say the engine flush and air induction service? Do you mean with seafoam, a different product, or having it done at a garage?

Thanks for your help



scott1981
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4/01/2005
17:15:28

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seafoam is a great product. i have used it multiple times on older engines and always had excellent results. i usually run the cleaner, about 1/3 can, in the crankcase for 300 miles. this really helps valve tick and seemed to make the engine smoother. the directions are not really clear on this, so that was just a time frame that i used and it seemed to work well. i never did put on a fresh filter, but with as many miles as you have it would not hurt. i use seafoam about every 30k miles on all my vehicles. i also usually run the truck, get it nice and hot then slowly pour about 1/3 of a can down the throttle body. i have not done it on my dodge yet, but just check and make sure you dont get it on any sensors. the engine will choke out and die, i just kept pouring and let everything set for about 15 minutes. it took about 2 minutes of cranking on my old nissan, 1/4 throttle helped get it started. when it starts it will run rough for a little while and smoke out your block. that is all the carbon burning off. i usually run it at about 2000rpms for about 30 seconds, then run it around the block racing the engine to burn off any left over carbon. you can also take off a vacvum hose, like the break booster and let it slowly suck fluid from the can instead of pouring it down the throttle body. The method of letting the vacum lines pull the cleaner is what hummer and GMc use. last just pour the rest on the gas tank and it will clean all the injectors. the biggest difference was the throttle body treatment for me. the engine used to really step up in power after 3k, after it was much more linear and smoother. it also idles much smoother, started quicker and seemed to have better fuel economy. i know my experience deals with a nissan, but i figure it is the same thing. sorry for the long post, hope some of it helped.


what Dan is talking about can be done at the dealership. i have heard them referred to as a "3 pack" they have a throttle body cleaner, a cleaner run through the engine, then a flush run through the oil. at most places this cost around $100 and takes the machanic all of 20 minutes. i would assume the dealerships method works better, but considering the seafoam runs about $5 bucks i think it is a much better bargain.



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4/01/2005
18:51:28

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Alot of shops offer the air induction service. They basically do what scott described, run cleaner though the air system. Last time I did it, i got it done at precision tune (had a great coupon).

The transmission flush, I had done at pepboys. Included in the $80 price is a proline (pepboys brand) oil change. They will upgrade to national brand oils for an additonal cost. Their top-of-the-line oil is royal purple synthetic.

Pepboys uses the bilstein machine, it pumps warm cleaning solution in the oil filter port @ 42 PSI and vaccuums it out the pan. I had this done on my truck last nov/dec at about 140k miles. They told me we "got alot of sludge out of there". my mpg went up from 12-14 (mostly 12-13) to 16mpg steady combined city/highway (atlanta rush hour traffic).

other shops offer this service and other vendors make similar machines.

Like I said, seafoam is a good product and I use it regularly in both my dakota and my wife's grand am. I use it as an inbetween service on the engine flush. That is my primary reason for getting it, i just use the rest of the can in the oil and gas tank.

- Dan M



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