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11/15/2004
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GraphiteDak,
AMSOIL has 30+ years of oil analysis data showing their oils provide extended interval drain service capabilities. Big oil companies can't argue with that data or explain it away. They would prefer that you "buy into the myth" of 3k-5k mile oil changes because it adds profits to their bottom line.
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I try to be very clear when talking about extended drains.
A 10,000 mile oil change interval is absolutely possible. Up to a 25,000 mile interval is possible under certain conditions, but please read further for additional information. But the KEY here is that --- The 3,000 mile recommendation is overkill, especially with superior synthetic oils.
Amsoil has been in the oil industry for 30+ years. Due to Amsoil's superior synthetic composition and advanced performance additives, AMSOIL performs much longer than do conventional petroleum and other synthetic motor oils. No other major oil manufacturer matches AMSOIL's 25,000-mile or one-year drain interval recommendations (whichever comes FIRST, changing the Amsoil SDF Oil Filter every six months).
However, the 25,000 mile /1 year that is on the back of the bottle is NOT an absolute! One must realize that is for non-severe service (highway miles where you have stable operating conditions) and that the indicated drain interval also has a time period of 1 year maximum as well.
***** READ THIS PLEASE EVERYONE*****
Under a combination of city and highway circumstances, AMSOIL recommends up to 2 or 3 times longer oil drain intervals, it means up to 2 or 3 times the equipment manufacturer's recommendation (If your owners manual states 3k miles , then you can change at 9k, and if your owners manual states 5k then 12-15k changes would be alright based on driving habits ... the harder you drive, the sooner the change). Proper filtration is also very important. AMSOIL SDF Oil Filters must be changed at least every 6 months regardless of miles driven.
Notice:
-- Modifications to engine will change service intervals.
-- More frequent service may be required under severe service operating conditions.
Notice: For drain interval beyond 3x manufacturers recommendations (especially the 25k mile or 1-year oil change interval) --- Regular oil analysis is recommended for establishing drain intervals.
AMSOIL = 30+ years of manufacturing oil and mountains of data and tests make these clains possible.
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Additionally ... Making a blanket statement that additives in oil begin to die after only 3k to 5k miles is simply put ... wrong.
It is true that the additives in many oils begin breaking down after only a few thousand miles. What needs to be recognized is that there are different qualities or “grades” of additives just as there are different qualities or "grades" of just about any other product that you buy. There are also different combinations of additives that tend to work better ... and for longer periods ... when combined ... than when they are used individually.
AMSOIL offers extended drain intervals because the superior base oil and additive packake is properly balanced, blended, and capable of performing for extended drains.
Now the entire industry is moving in that direction. It has been published that automotive manufacturers will be recommending extended drain intervals of up to 15,000 miles in the near future ... because that's what consumers want.
Amsoil's Extended Oil Drain Interval: It is the right thing to do for the consumer, for the environment, and a way to reduce american dependence on foreign oil. Longer intervals = less oil used.
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Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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DakotaOwner01
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11/15/2004
08:24:20
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Steve you know I support ya and think your products are great, but
"They would prefer that you "buy into the myth" of 3k-5k mile oil changes because it adds profits to their bottom line. "
Take it easy on my XOM stock. They are just trying to get along like anyone else.
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DakotaEnthusiast
11/15/2004
14:59:51
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Oil discussion can be as difficult as discussing religion or politics ... and that is fine. This is America and everyone has a choice. What I try to make perfectly clear is that I am against what is being sold to the American public as a STANDARD (3k mile oil changes). Oil certification requirements are higher in Europe than they are here in the U.S. Many vehicles in Europe are between the 10k and 15k mile recommended oil change intervals.
It is long past overdue for Americans to "rethink" the 3k mile oil change concept, the wasting of a natural resource, and our dependence on foreign oil. We can save billions of barrels of oil if everyone would consider using a synthetic oil with longer drain intervals.
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Why Synthetics vs Conventional Petroleum Oil?
SYNTHETIC VS. CONVENTIONAL PETROLEUM (Dino)
Conventional lubricants are refined from crude oil which has thousands of types of molecules. Refining is a process of physically separating the impurities from the oil and further separating the light and heavy components. Because refining separates products by weight, it groups molecules of similar weight and dissimilar structure. The result is a lubricant with a wide assortment of molecules. Some of the substances in crude oil are detrimental to lubrication. Paraffins, for example, are a common conventional oil contaminant that causes motor oil to thicken in cold temperatures.
Synthetic motor oils are made from pure chemicals, not refined crude. Their components are chemically reacted to produce finished products with pre-designed performance characteristics. Because of their molecular uniformity, they excel in reducing friction, which improves fuel efficiency, controls heat and reduces wear. This molecular uniformity also helps synthetics resist thinning in hot temperatures and thickening in cold. This is the simplified reason for posting this thread:
Check Your Motor Oil
It is important to check your motor oil levels on a regular basis. Without lubrication, friction between moving parts leads to engine wear.
But it is also important to think about the type of motor oil you are using. For severe cold, there is a significant performance difference between synthetic and conventional motor oil.
Cold weather is tough on engines because of the limitations of traditional lubricants. Motor oils and greases become thicker, thus slowing starting rpm, restricting oil flow to critical engine parts, increasing wear on bearings and rings, decreasing engine life, and increasing the burden on an already overtaxed starting system.
For really cold weather, only Synthetic Motor Oils and Lubricants offer the kind of performance that allows cars and trucks to start with ease. Many synthetic motor oils still flow or pump at temperatures up to sixty and seventy below zero ... and synthetics have a broader service range than traditional petroleum.
The admonition to check your motor oil is intended as a reminder to not only watch fluid levels, but to consider whether your motor oil is fulfilling its lubricating function in severe weather. No sense in being stranded on an isolated road because your engine couldn't turn over.
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jeremiah2360
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11/16/2004
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Moly as an additive in an oil is used widely and is perfectly fine. Even for Cummins. Explained further here;
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=22;t=000079
I doubt Royal Purple uses the "bad" kind and is not a bad oil for using it.
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GraphiteDak
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11/18/2004
23:01:56
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I actually LIKED this part ...and a way to reduce american dependence on foreign oil
Now THAT really makes me want to run synthetic and use higher intervals. Seriously.
I already ordered the AMSOIL a few days ago. I didn;t order a filter, assuming I could just buy a Fram or something locally.
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DakotaEnthusiast
11/19/2004
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GraphiteDak,
You can not extend your drains using a "cheap" filter.
Amsoil recommends extended drains only when using a QUALITY filter, and recommend that you only use the AMSOIL SUPER DUTY FULL-FLOW ENGINE OIL FILTER.
AMSOIL SUPER DUTY FULL-FLOW ENGINE OIL FILTER
(SDF Filters) are composed of a special Cellulose, Synthetic and Glass Blend Media to provide longer life and improved efficiency. Performance tests demonstrated that AMSOIL SDF Filters provide over 75 percent better combined efficiency/capacity than other popular filters.
AMSOIL SDF Filters contain a combination of cellulose, synthetic and glass blend media to provide longer life and improved efficiency. An oil pressure relief valve assures proper oil flow at all times under all operating conditions. Each heavy-duty case has a drawn steel double-crimp at the base with rolled-under seaming. A proprietary elastometer anti-drain back valve keeps dirty oil in the filter when engine is not running.
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The order of the best MEDIA in a oil filter:
synthetic -
fiberglass - it is second because fiberglass has to be held together with glues and therefore decreases flows
cellulose - if this get water in it it will bubble up and restrict flow.
Blended filtration media composed of synthetic, cellulose and fiberglass fibers are usually the best.
YOU NEED A BALANCE BETWEEN FLOW AND FILTRATION
FILTRATION
It seems that engine wear gets worse when there are particles above 5 micron particles not being filtered out of the system. GM has done studies where the wear became very great at around 30 microns. On the flip-side, Mobil did tests in 1995 where they ran a number of vehicles at 7.5K oil changes and 15K oil changes on filters that would have been in the 25 micron range. The vehicles went 200K with very little wear. So it would seem that filters that grab most of the 15-20 micron particles whould be OK. I know this is not very scientific.
It really depends on the clearances in your engine. An engine such as my neighbors LT1, which is a small block Chevy as far as the bottom end is concerned, has large clearances so a 20 micron particle won't harm it as much as it would on a much tighter engine such as many DOHC 4 cylinder imports. So in other words, it's different in every case.
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In theory, reducing wear particles to 0 is optimum but in the real world of automobile engines it doesn't work.
What good does filtering out for instance .5 (1/2) microns ... 100% of the time ... but causing wear by interupting oil flow to the bearings.
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If anyone is concerned, perform a Used Oil Analysis and see for yourself what is the PPM range in your engine ... for all the major metals (iron, lead, alumn, copper).
FLOW
FLOW IS ... AS IMPORTANT, maybe ... MORE IMPORTANT ... than FILTRATION. Many filters have good filtration and terrible flow.
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