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6/23/2004
06:46:40

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Just a follow-up to a response I posted awhile back. My coworker made the switch from Mobil syn to Amsoil syn about 2000 miles ago. He has a Chevy 3500 and tows a boat often. He was unhappy at how the Mobil was performing. Smelled burnt and was dirty very quickly. The engine had the infamous "noisy til it warms-up problem that plagues so many GM engines in past years. His sounds like it is running without oil for the first few minutes, or it did before the switch. He noticed a difference immediately, but now after 2000 miles the noise is gone. He told his dealer and the dealer said impossible. I guess it is our imagination that Amsoil seems to be superior. Or maybe we just don't hear as good as we did a couple of months ago.



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6/23/2004
06:56:10

Amsoil better than Mobil1 --- Free Amsoil Catalog
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Is that a "thumbs up" for Amsoil?



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6/23/2004
07:01:15

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Another thing worth mentioning. When I had first switched from the factory oil to syn, my dealer was using Mobil at the time. For the first two changes I had a very irratic oil level. - when I told the dealer they had me come back and they changed the oil and filter right away in case there was some incompatability with the dino oil that was in there before, so the first change was only there for about 100 miles - I am fortunate to have a dealer that gives a james - I would check it before starting and find the level low, then the next day it was ok, then low again. It did the same while warm too. I called Mobil and they said they never heard of it and that I must have a restriction in the returns. Bah! The dealer said that they were getting a few people with the same problem and they made the switch to Valvoline. With the Valvoline I didn't have the trouble any more, but I didn't like it for other reasons such as it getting that burned smell rather quick and as with the Mobil, I had the infamous sludge in the filler neck problem. I then switched on my own to Amsoil and I won't go backwards anymore. Why buy crap when I can buy Amsoil.



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6/23/2004
07:08:15

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Yes Steve, that is a thumbs-up. I put the "crap" part to get all the nay-sayers excited! lol. I am going to become a distributor too. Might as well, most that I speak with are making the switch, so I might as well be able to get them the best price.



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6/23/2004
08:16:37

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peedee (and for everyone else also),

Amsoil products are sold through Independent Amsoil Dealers like myself ... and people like you. People who want extra money, something to do in their spare time, even a full-time business.

You can become an independent AMSOIL Dealer for under $50 and put as much -- or as little -- time into it as you want.

There's always plenty of support, never any hassles. No quotas to fill. No inventory requirements.

You can establish commercial and retail accounts as well as sell to individuals. It's up to you ... extra money, a full-time income or rock-bottom prices on AMSOIL products.

The outstanding products offered by Amsoil comprise a rock-solid base upon which to build your business. There are many advantages to the AMSOIL Dealership opportunity that you simply won't find in other business opportunities:

1) Minimal start-up fee
2) No inventory requirements
3) No territory restrictions
4) No capital investment in office or warehouse space
5) No employee expenses or requirements


And above all, Amsoil provides Dealers with an excellent support system to help them develop their businesses; brochures, tapes, regular meetings, technical services -- everything you need to begin and build your business is available from Amsoil.

You can directly click on my Amsoil Website Link below. On the same page that you request a FREE Amsoil Catalog, you can "check a box" for information on becoming a dealer.

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Amsoil Dealers and Amsoil Preferred Customers purchase AMSOIL products at wholesale cost.

Amsoil Preferred Customer Memberships are recommended for people who are not necessarily interested in the business opportunity, but want the lowest possible prices on the best lubrication and filtration products for their vehicles and equipment. Preferred Customers pay the same low prices for Amsoil products that Amsoil Dealers pay.

Ten dollars ($10) gets you a six-month trial Amsoil Preferred Customer membership for buying Amsoil products at wholesale prices. Preferred Customer memberships may be renewed indefinitely for only $20/year. Preferred Customers can upgrade their membership to an Amsoil Dealership at any time. Preferred Customers receive an information kit on AMSOIL products, an Air and Oil Filter Application Guide, and the monthly Amsoil product, racing and application magazine, the monthly magazine, the "Amsoil Action News".

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Click the following link to request either a FREE Amsoil Catalog, or information on becoming an Independent Amsoil Dealer:



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6/23/2004
08:23:16

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How good is Amsoil? Is it the correct choice for your Dakota?

Answer .... DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL !!!

This was posted by Sephiroth 3/20/2004
V8 Forum --- Subject: New Chrysler Product?!

Message posted by Sephiroth:

"I went in to have my brakes checked today, and when I walked into the garage the first thing I saw made my jaw hit the floor. My local dealership now uses and sells AMSOIL products!! They've got it posted on a big banner over the service-desks. GM may not have been able to get it for their 'vettes, but obviously Dodge was able to, or they found out how awesome it is and started buying at regular price! When I go in for a tranny-filter, fluid, and gasket change next week, it's getting filled with AMSOIL."

Sephiroth went on to state:

"This is at the Raleigh, NC dealership, Al Smith Buick, Dodge, Mazda. I told the guy at the desk I was astounded to see them using AMSOIL and that I had been using it for a while now. After he rode in the truck he said he'd be switching next oil-change in his Ram.

As for me, I've got it in the engine, and I'll have it in the tranny soon! Next up are the differentials. After that I need to get a dyno just for curiosity's sake. IF I get 3-5hp form the differential, and God knows how much from the engine and tranny, that'll be enough without any heavy mods. Well, for all I do anyway. If it is a significant gain, I'll post the results."


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... and as part of the same thread jeremiah2360 stated:

"Norwood (MA) Dodge sells Amsoil too."

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Dodge Dealerships are beginning to realize that Amsoil offers a FULL LINE of SUPERIOR Premium Synthetic Lubricants and Dodge Dealerships are beginning to offer Amsoil.

Why ...

1) Dodge knows Amsoil meets AND exceeds Dodge's requirements.
2) Because their customers are asking for Amsoil.
3) Amsoil = 30 Year History of Research and Development
4) Amsoil offers the best Synthetic Lubricants


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As an Amsoil Preferred Customer, or as an Amsoil Independent Dealer you can order at Wholesale Prices! Why pay retail?

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You can Request a FREE Amsoil Catalog below.



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6/23/2004
10:33:20

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I don't know what the hell you guys are doing to your cars. I switched to Mobil One from Castrol dino at 130K miles. Mobil One did away with the piston slap noise immediately, and it runs great still at 235K miles, all original engine. I have no mystery oil level fluctuations. I have no issues with Mobil One, and the only issue with Castrol, or Quaker State, or any other brand was that dino oil allowed the piston slap noise.

But then, I have no stake in any of these companies, so I have nothing to gain by posting my story, unlike some of you "dealers". 8)



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6/23/2004
13:57:58

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Good for you Bob.

We are now all convinced, since your opinion is unbiased, that Mobil1 eliminated piston slap. Thanks for your words of wisdom.



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6/23/2004
14:24:47

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Good for you Bob.

We are now all convinced, since your Advanced Degree in Lubrication insures us that your opinion is both educated and unbiased, and that Mobil1 eliminated your piston slap. Thanks for your words of wisdom.




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6/23/2004
15:31:36

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Someone got stung!



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6/23/2004
16:15:42

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I heard you can get hair on the palm of your hand from slapping your piston. Will Mobile 1 help with this problem?



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6/23/2004
18:52:56

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I fully agree with Bob.I have tried both amsoil and mobil 1.I noticed no difference in amsoil over dino oil whatsoever.Although I did notice an improvement in gas mileage,acceleration,and a smoother running engine with mobil 1.I have a problem believing the crap pee dee posted.



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6/23/2004
20:55:09

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It's a free country use whatever oil you wish, you guys know
what I am using though !

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6/23/2004
23:04:53

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well, i just put in amsoil in my 04 dak at 3000km and it seems to be pretty good so far. as for mobile 1 CRAP, i just put this sh*t in my grand am GT to try it out and its dirty within a month and looks like sh*t. i won't make that mistake again. i guess i have to dump this mobile 1 sh*t out of my bike and put in amsoil. at least the amsoil looks like new when i check it , not like the burnt mobile 1 sh*t.



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6/23/2004
23:08:18

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bye the way ,YES, the mobile 1 is synthetic.



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6/24/2004
02:29:37

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I have been using Amsoil for the last 40k and am very happy with it. A mechanic buddy of mine recommended it, he has no ties to Amsoil at all, I am sure his shop does not use it.

Never used Mobil, sounds like another great option. There must be a point at which they are so close it can't make much of a difference.



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6/24/2004
08:07:56

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peedee,

Additional Information about becoming an Independent Amsoil Dealer

Every Amsoil product purchased has a commission value, known as Commission Credits. Commission Credits are used to determine the commission paid to you --- an Independent Amsoil Dealer.

As an Amsoil Dealer, the commission credits matter greatly (please see the last paragraph). Amsoil Dealers expand their sales force through sponsoring new dealers. Amsoil Dealers in your downline contribute to your personal group commission credits, a key number in the formula that determines your commissions and recognition level. For additional information you can log on to the "Dealers Zone", which is for Amsoil Dealers only for additional information.

Like a traditional MLM company, Amsoil Dealers can sell products to individuals and sponsor new Dealers to increase commissions and recognition level. And Dealers who are comfortable and successful with this strategy can focus here with great success.

But the Amsoil opportunity goes well beyond MLM, allowing Dealers to sell via the retail catalog plan, to sell to customers in business and industry and even act as wholesale resellers to retail outlets.

What's more, Amsoil Dealers have no territory limitations (I have clients in 40 States, Puerto Rico, and New Zealand), no quotas to fill or inventory to maintain. Amsoil training and promotional materials are extremely affordable and the cost of starting a Dealership is low.

It's not just a business opportunity, it's an outstanding business opportunity.

The Amsoil Dealership Options at a Glance!

PERSONAL RETAIL SALES: Amsoil Dealers purchase Amsoil products at Dealer cost and resell the products at suggested retail cost. The profit margin and commissions make it all worthwhile.

THE AMSOIL RETAIL CATALOG: The Amsoil Retail Catalog opens a whole new world to Amsoil Dealers --- catalog marketing. Companies like L.L. Bean and Land's End demonstrate just how lucrative catalog marketing can be.

COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS: Businesses who use a lot of lubricants in company vehicles (such as trucking fleets and taxi companies) are high-volume customers. Profits can be high volume too.

RETAIL ACCOUNTS: Retail outlets are always on the lookout for products that will make a positive impact on their bottom lines. Amsoil products will do just that.

INDUSTRIAL ACCOUNTS: A particularly lucrative type of customer is one seeking industrial lubricants. Purchase volumes are high, and so are the technical demands.

SPONSORING: Amsoil allows Dealers to expand their sales forces through sponsoring. Amsoil Dealers in your downline contribute through the same business strategies open to you) to your personal group commission credits, a key number in the formula that determines your commissions and recognition level. Downline Dealers help ensure that you reach your entire potential market. In short, they let you maximize your Amsoil business opportunity!
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Anyone interested in becoming an Independent Amsoil Dealer can request additional information by clicking on the following link.



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6/24/2004
20:31:16

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Whats the best grade of synthetic oil for an 89 3.9 ? Oponions?



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6/24/2004
20:54:09

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Best thing about being an Amsoil dealer is you can have your other Amsoil dealer buddies come to your forum and post messages agreeing with you and telling everyone how great the product is. Isn't that a hoot!





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6/25/2004
06:57:41

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Steve,
Thanks for that inside information.Now we know why you push amsoil so hard.Sounds alot like amway.I am also a Ford truck owner and sometimes I visit the fordtruck.com site.I wish this site was more like that one .They have an oil and lubrication section that doesn't allow dealers.So you can get some honest input.I am sorry Steve but I can't help but believe you make most of these posts concerning amsoil using various names.It is so convenient that you do not have to log in.This is the only site I have visited that you aren't required to log in.This is like an amsoil site not a dakota site.



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6/25/2004
07:13:22

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It is unfortunate that some individuals have nothing better to do in their day than bash others. If those people read the past posts from me, they will see that i am that passionate about other products and procedures as well. Will they think that i am a dealer of Zaino Brothers polish, anti-sieze compound and stabilizer bushings? Oh yeah, I sell gas cap venting mechanisms too!!! Geesh! The inclusion of possibly becoming a distributor was informational and emphasis. I, ya know, ME! am very satisfied with Amsoil. That is my preference and my opinion, and you will never read that I am bashing another because they express thier own opinion, whether I agree or not. But I do not tolerate such ignorance and disrespect. Seems some are simply a waste of good oxygen. The ignorance of some will prompt them to state that that is thier opinion and that they have the right to express it. I will argue that they are just further exposing thier own ignorance of the concept of respect and what a true opinion really consists of. I have tried to see things from thier point of view at times, but it ends up smelling like sh*t! Hey thats just my opinion, I could be wrong! NAH!



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