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johnn
Dodge Dakota
7/01/2001
19:09:15
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 Subject: RT vs v-6
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i have oo v-6 3.9 with a powerdyne s/c #6 , JBA headers, passetter cat back , msd , no cat. single cab and 5 speed. also lost some wieght. just wondering what else i might need to beat a stock rt or will i already beat one.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
7/01/2001
20:32:48
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Do a run. If your low 15's then your right there with them. If your hight 14's or lower then you are probably faster if it's a stock R/T.
Good luck
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Mike Balls
Dodge Dakota
7/01/2001
21:27:07
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johnn i think you could beat any R/T and any 4.7!them 4.7s are not that quick.
yes boys and girls,Mr Balls is back. Wink wink
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
7/02/2001
00:44:58
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If that stripped down supercharged 5-speed doesn't run low 14's then you got something wrong in the setup. It should beat any stock Dakota made. The v-6 is not that far under the 4.7's power to start with, all those mods should be making more power then the 5.9, but you have the 5-speed and less weight.
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SilverdakTx
Dodge Dakota
7/02/2001
11:15:57
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Mr. Balls,
I don't think you have ever had a ride in a Dak with the new 4.7, because if you did, you would not be saying that they are not that quick. And, good sir, if they are not that quick, then tell me why my CC 4.7 with only an air intake modification and 3.55 gears can hang with a CC R/T? :)
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jesse torres
Dodge Dakota
7/02/2001
16:23:26
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I also have a 3.9, i have true dueal exaust, 3923 autolites, 180 t-stat, msd wires, accel coil,3.92 rear end, and a home brew air intake, and an rt can get me in take off pretty good sometimes, but on the highway I have beat a coupel of them, so you having a supercharger, you should know that you can beat a stock RT.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
7/02/2001
16:58:23
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Hersbird. I hate to say it but saying that the 3.9 liter is not much below a 4.7 has got to be your silliest comment yet.
You can't even compare the 2 motors. The 4.7 weighs the same and produces over 50 more HP and 70 lb TQ. Ever since you had to settle for an R/T because the shifter for a 5 speed 4.7 would be in the way of a third passenger your have taken on I am getting an R/T my shit don't stink arttitide. I am in Vancouver and may come down to Seattle roll all over your reg cab R/T just to show you what a 4.7 5 speed is all about.
Sorry board for dissing a fellow Mopar owner but this entire turn of attitude towards the 4.7 engine because it wasn't going to work for his needs is just ludicrous. You can't say I am not willing to put my money where my mouth is however. I will make the trek down to Seattle. I want to spend a weekend there anyways for it's as beautifull a city as Vancouver B.C.
Later
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
7/02/2001
22:28:19
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Well I'm not in Seattle but western Montana. The 2001 R/T may not happen after all as it has been put on hold for some reason. If not I will be getting a 2002 R/T or a used 2000 R/T I've been looking at. The 2000 is already modified so it may not be fair. I beleive you when you say your 4.7 5-speed will equal or beat a R/T, I just don't buy the theory a 4.7 auto will do the same. I also think this supercharged v-6 here will spank all stock Dakota's no matter how they are optioned. I don't think you can compare a stock v-6 to the 4.7 but a supercharger, headers, and more added to a v-6 and it wouldn't be anything you'd want to take lightly. If Dodge would make the 4.7 270 HP motor the Grand Cherokee Sport will get for 2002, also available for 2002 Dakota's I would cancel my order right now and wait how ever long it takes to get one. I have no problems with the 4.7 but I feel the 360 better with an automatic because of the torque advantage.
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
7/03/2001
00:01:57
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Agreed on all fronts Hersbird.
Good luck
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Bernd
Gen III
7/03/2001
00:22:24
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JohnN: Throw a 9# pulley on that bad-boy. The V6's aren't prone to the head gasket leakage like the V8's (5.2/5.9L). Also, with the 9# pulley, a 50mm TB gains you 20 more RWHP than the 48mm stock V8 or Billet 48mm (on the Supercharged V6's).
I've done a lot of Dyno testing on the S/C'd V6 and they really respond to the 9# pulley. With my current engine setup, and at the REAR wheels...
209HP and 277Ft.Lbs.TQ (with 9# pulley...not the 10# pulley i'm running now).
That equates (with the 5-speed) to approximately 250HP at the crank for the V6.
Ported heads are coming as well as a custom ground cam by the middle of this month which will gain approximately another 20-30HP. (Marty @ KRC Performance does these for the V6's.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10#
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
7/03/2001
03:46:20
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Hersbird I am still curious as to where the extra 40 hp are coming from in this new HO 4.7. My dealer seemed to think whatever comes out for this new motor can be apllied to the current 4.7 but at what cost I don't know. I saw the new 2002 Liberty today at the dealership. It had the new 3.7 in it and they told me that was the largest motor offered in that new SUV. Looked prety cool but definatley not for me.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
7/03/2001
21:07:00
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I can't find the original story of the 4.7 HO at www.car-truck.com I bet it's things like cam, computer, and exhaust. The motor is being built in a production version as we speak. I'm sure the true details will be out very soon. Supposedly it makes the Grand Cherokee run in the 14's, not bad, but for twice the price of a Dakota, no thanks.
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