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DeepDak
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5/19/2003
17:19:34

Subject: STR-4 faster than EVO & Sti (sort of)
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Something interesting about this import matchup:
Street start 5-60 mph
Evo 6.7
Sti 5.8
STR 5.9(number would be lower with a limited slip)

These numbers were found in the two recent issues of Car&Driver. If I remember correctly the STR had much better 50-70mph numbers than the EVO and Sti. Hmmm...at least 8k more for one of these imports and one still ends up saying "I got beat by a neon"! For those STI and EVO fans, I know, the extra 8K paid smokes the STR around any corner.

Eli



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5/19/2003
17:24:13

RE: STR-4 faster than EVO & Sti (sort of)
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yea but the crash results are poor

http://www.hldi.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_small.htm



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5/19/2003
20:18:18

RE: STR-4 faster than EVO & Sti (sort of)
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its not the STR, its SRT, and dummy, do you buy a car to crash it, because i dont



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5/20/2003
08:03:44

RE: STR-4 faster than EVO & Sti (sort of)
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Spencer, man, chill. He's posting crash ratings...something very important. Just because you're some world class super duper driver and never get in a crash doesn't mean someone else won't come and t-bone your a$$. You have no control over how good other drivers are.



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5/20/2003
09:54:01

RE: STR-4 faster than EVO & Sti (sort of)
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the 0-60 ratings for the EVO are in the high 4
second range. the SRT-4 competes very
nicely with the regular WRX but not the STI
and definately not the EVO. they tested the
EVO along with the new Cobra and Ferrari etc.
the EVO ended up spankin on the new cobra
0-60 and ran a very nice 13.1 1/4 mile. If I'm
not mistaken car and driver got it to a 4.8 0-60

2003 WRX

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5/20/2003
10:10:17

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my 318 demon smokedcobras&z/28s there was a srt neon at the drags fridaynitespeedworld dude was running14.0s weather was crappy dude's srt only had couple thousand miles



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5/20/2003
12:03:33

RE: STR-4 faster than EVO & Sti (sort of)
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SRT4's have already broken into the mid 13's in stock trim. They are very capable for a FWD car!

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5/20/2003
16:12:07

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D,
I posted the 5-60 on the roll starts because 0-60 is no comparison! How can anyone compare AWD with a one legger? Besides, not every race is from a dead stop and it's interesting to see that the SRT can complete when it has better traction. The STR added .3 seconds from it's 0-60 but the Sti and EVO added quite a bit(STi added 1.3 & EVO added 1.8 seconds).

It would be interesting to see some 30-70 runs! No traction problems with less weight, I'm thinking the SRT would beat the Evo(already spanks it 5-60). The SRT against the Sti would be quite a bit closer, couldn't really say who would take it.

Ya, Motor Trend got a great time with the Evo(5k rpm launch) on that day(Sweet article). Motor trend also ran an article on the Sti in the same issue and it ran a 13.2. MT did say that the EVO had better conditions than the Sti and that could have been why the EVO ran faster than the more powerful STi.

This is no bash against the STi or EVO, the more competition the better! I'm actually considering buying a used WRX when I pay off and garage the truck(need a more economical vehicle).

Eli





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5/20/2003
16:23:57

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uhhh in motor trend the sti beat the evo, bye like .3 sec in quater and 0-60...



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5/20/2003
16:25:38

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5/21/2003
17:02:52

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if you guys go to ATP TURBO.COM you will see that their srt is turned a 12.9, with a few mods. I happen to own one, and let me tell you, for 20k and about another 1k, my car is already in the low 13s, with stock tires.



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5/21/2003
19:56:16

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Depending on weather and temp conditions (and track altitude), your car will do mid 13's already. I love the SRT4 for the money. Freakin' nasty...

K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway

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5/21/2003
20:05:29

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mmmm torque stear ; ) now that the srt-4 is
out I need to invest in an ECU flash

2003 WRX

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5/22/2003
17:42:13

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D,
How about a boost controller? Or that Apexi controller I read about somewhere? A few more lbs should be sweet!

Eli



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5/22/2003
17:55:09

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Boost controller would work pretty well if you plan to leave the setup stock, but you really need something with more tunability for the long run (and more boost). I think on the lowest setting, the boost controller I had in my VW was 1 PSi over stock, and would push it to 14.5 PSi on the stock turbo. They have the exact same numbers in the latest eurotuner...

K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway

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5/22/2003
23:10:32

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UTEC is the way to go it runs about $985 but
it is fully tunable via laptop and comes with 5
pre mapped settings already tested and
dynoed by turbo XS. boost controller is okay,
but theres too many horror stories of blown
motors due to lack of self control. the UTEC
has been dynoed on a stock motor for 40HP.
with a turbo back exhaust and up-pipe the wrx
should be pushin some pretty impressive
numbers (compared to the 169 WHP stock)

2003 WRX

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