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walters
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5/04/2001
23:34:31
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 Subject: fog lights and high beams
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Does anyone know any "simple" changes to the wiring so I can use my factory fog lights AND high beams together? Thanks for any help.
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Kraw
GenIII
5/05/2001
07:45:40
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I will try and post a few links for you when I get in. This subject has been discussed many times on the DML. I think most people end up cutting a wire or running relays or something like that. I haven't done mine yet. I have about 3 emails saved. Also, try the Dakota R/T registry, I think they have a write-up about it.
Geoffrey
BL 98 5.2L RC
www.krawdaddy.net
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Blizzard
*GenIII*
5/05/2001
07:51:05
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Yeah, I read how to do that somewhere too. Run a jumper wire across two terminals on the back of the switch. I'll dig too and see if I can find where I read that.
'01 QC 4x4
5.9, 3.92 LSD, loaded
www.geocities.com/blizzzzard69
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kraw
GenIII
5/06/2001
06:05:22
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here is one:
I just checked out my fuse box under the hood. You remove the
> nearest relay to the fender, you take a hefty piece of wire (14-16awg will
> do fine) and make a jumper between the number 4 and number 3 slots. If you
> take the relay and turn it over and look at the spades on the bottom of
it,
> they are numbered. The number 4 slot is the center slot of the 3 that are
> together, the number 3 slot is the bottom slot closest to the fender.
That's
> all there is to it, save the relay by putting into a spare space, and
enjoy
> seeing better at night.
another:
Subject: Here it is, Fog light Re-Wire Procedure
>
>
> the responce was as i expected, alot of people want to do this........so i
> took some photos and here are the directions.
>
> it could not be any simpler, and the best part is NO cutting and it uses
the
> factory switches!!! also i can be changed back for state inspections for
> states like PA that dont allow this kind of thing!!
>
> download the picture and follow these instructions.
>
> step 1:
>
> Open your hood and remove the PDC (power distibution center) cover where
all
> your fuses and relays are located (its right behind the battery on the
4.7L
> V8). locate the Fog Light Relay using the chart on the inside of the
cover.
> the Fog Light Relay is the one i'm pointing to in Pic #1.
>
> Step 2:
>
> Remove the relay as shown in Pic #2, it simply pulls out. Note the 2
larger
> contact prongs on the relay parallel to eachother, these are the two
contacts
> circuts you need to complete with a piece of fusable link. wire will
work,
> however, I prefer fusable link because if you experience a short or power
> surge, the link will blow out like a fuse, preventing any serious
electrical
> burnouts.
>
> Step #3:
>
> here in Pic #3 you see the piece of fusable link i have prepaired with
thoes
> electrical contacts. you can find sizes in the hardware store that are a
> perfect match for the circut holes.
>
> Step #4:
>
> Complete the circut by plugging the fusable link into the 2 larger holes
that
> are parallel to eachother on the circut board as shown in Pic #4.
>
> Step #5:
>
> Replace the PDC cover as shown in Pic #5 and WHALLA!!! YOUR DONE! fire
> that puppy up and you have Fog lights on All the Time!!! as seen in Pic
#6
>
sorry for the long post =]
Geoffrey
BL 98 5.2L RC
www.krawdaddy.net
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Doug
GenIII
5/07/2001
01:13:49
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do you mean all the time or only when selected on?
Doug
99 Dakota Sport, 4X4, Auto, 3.9
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98SPRTV6
GenIII
5/07/2001
11:24:31
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I have been wanting to do the same to mine! Any help with this would be most appreciative!!!
'98 Sport 3.9L 5-speed 3.55. Custom CAI, ASP Pullies, Traction Bars.
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CyberWolf
GenIII
5/07/2001
21:27:25
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Niether one of those worked on my 2001. I jumped between every possible terminal. They either stayed on all the time or didn't turn on at all. When I say all the time, I mean even when the key was off and out of the truck. Does anyone have any other ideas?
'01 4.7 CC, 2wd, 5 speed, Sport plus, 3.92 limited slip, Intense
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UWGriz
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5/08/2001
08:56:52
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This is how I did mine (from the Dakota Mailing List):
FOG LAMPS ON WITH HIGH BEAMS
This is a fairly simple, 5 minute procedure. First, you must remove the black plastic dash frame. It just snaps out. Then, remove the 3 screws holding the headlight switch in and remove the switch. There are 2 connectors on the back of the switch.. A 2-wire connector and a multi-wire
connector. The 2 wire connector has a BLACK and a BLACK with GREEN STRIPE wire. Run a jumper from the BLACK with GREEN STRIPE wire in the 2 wire
connector to the LIGHT BLUE with BLACK stripe wire on the multi-wire connector. That's it! Your fog lights will come on when you turn them on
(parking lamps must be on, at least) and will stay on with low or high beams.
You may want to double check the wires that are listed here for a 2001 (they were right for my '99, but who knows what changed).
BTW, just for everyone's info, if you're looking for both the low beams and high beams on together, don't buy the relays that you find in Jeg's, Summit, etc. They don't work. Our trucks are wired differently (they actually complete the circuit on the ground side). We did install it on my friends Ford and it worked great, even keeps his fogs on with the high beams now. If anyone knows how to get both lows and highs on our trucks, please let me know.
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smoody
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5/10/2001
09:26:21
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The easiest way would be to get a 5 or 10 amp
diode and hook the anode to the high-beam 12v feed
and the cathode to the low-beam 12v feed. The
diode acts as a one-way "valve", letting juice
flow to the low when the high is on but not vice
versa. The only drawbacks are that now the
high-beam wiring is handling current for both the
high and the low. I don't have a wiring diagram to
know what size the wire is but it's prolly ok. The
other drawback is that the diode will have about a
0.7 volt drop across it, but you prob wouldn't
notice it in the light output.
Another way to do it would be with an external
relay, a little more complicated, but can be done.
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smoody
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5/10/2001
09:26:48
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The easiest way would be to get a 5 or 10 amp
diode and hook the anode to the high-beam 12v feed
and the cathode to the low-beam 12v feed. The
diode acts as a one-way "valve", letting juice
flow to the low when the high is on but not vice
versa. The only drawbacks are that now the
high-beam wiring is handling current for both the
high and the low. I don't have a wiring diagram to
know what size the wire is but it's prolly ok. The
other drawback is that the diode will have about a
0.7 volt drop across it, but you prob wouldn't
notice it in the light output.
Another way to do it would be with an external
relay, a little more complicated, but can be done.
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smoody
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5/10/2001
09:27:26
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The easiest way would be to get a 5 or 10 amp
diode and hook the anode to the high-beam 12v feed
and the cathode to the low-beam 12v feed. The
diode acts as a one-way "valve", letting juice
flow to the low when the high is on but not vice
versa. The only drawbacks are that now the
high-beam wiring is handling current for both the
high and the low. I don't have a wiring diagram to
know what size the wire is but it's prolly ok. The
other drawback is that the diode will have about a
0.7 volt drop across it, but you prob wouldn't
notice it in the light output.
Another way to do it would be with an external
relay, a little more complicated, but can be done.
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mike
Dodge Dakota
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1/08/2002
19:21:53
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There is a simpler method then any described so far. This is referencing the 2001 Dakota Wiring diagrams in the Service Manual.
1) Locate the Central Timer Module. It is in behind the drivers kick panel. It is a black box about 4" X 4". It has three connectors on it. C1, C2 & C3. You only need to concern yourself with C1 (top 26 pin connector) and C3 (bottom 12 pin connector.
2) Remove or cut wire from pin 22 of the C1 connector. It will be a white/tan wire.
3) Remove or cut wire from pin 8 of the C3 connector. It will be a White/Violet wire.
4) Splice these two wires together.
The modification is complete. It takes all of about 10 minutes to accomplish without any tool but a wire stripper, crimper, cutter. If you choose to remove pins instead of cutting wires this can be done also, however it requires a bit more time and effort.
The Timer Control Module controls the fog lamp relay, it also senses the high beam position of the headlamp switch. By performing this mod you are essentially bypassing control of the Fog Lamp Relay directly to the Fog Lamp Switch.
This will allow use of you fog lights on either high or low beam... This works very nicely!!
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2002
00:53:42
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Cool, I wonder if that works with the 2002s..
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R Middleton
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2002
01:10:43
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I don't get it why do you want to do this? Is it for looks or something? Please don't misinterpret my tone I don't care one way or the other but to me it seems to defeat the purpose of both lighting systems.
Stay sane,
Stay Strong!
Middy.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2002
01:43:39
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Most drivers would like to have more light emmitted from their vehicles when driving at night, ask around even and you'll see. More light = a bit more safe, 'specially with all the damn critters up here!
It's just more light/brightness coverage!
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mikey
Dodge Dakota
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4/24/2002
14:54:39
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I had a 2000 R/T, all I did was pull the daytime runing light module. It's just a clip snapping into module located on the driver side fender (under the hood). It'r really easy to spot, black and bolted to the side. But, you will loose your daytime running lights, and your highbeam indicator on the dash. I now dirve a 2002 4x4 and haven't figured it out yet.
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Damon Hennebury
Dodge Dakota
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7/29/2003
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I have a 98 Dakota and the daytime running lights stay on all the time, even when the truck is turned off and key is removed from the ignition. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Demon
Dodge Dakota
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8/06/2003
08:32:25
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No need to run jumper wire(s). Just connect the relay lead wire to the first pin on your light switch. The fog lights will come on with the light switch in any position (park lights or headlights) and won't shut off when high beams are on.
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