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Roger
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12/18/2003
22:22:19

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I have had five (5) Dakotas since 1987. Each one has had front disc brake rotor warp real bad. The worst is my current 2000. After going through three (3) sets of rotors in 25k miles I finally sought professional help, however, not from the dealer I might add. My problems were solved when a purchase was made from NAPA of racing rotors that are made by Raybestos. Drilled and groved these babies do the trick. No rotor warp in the past 40k miles. My cost was $95 ea. side for the rotors. Try'em. You'll like'em!



sprocket
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12/27/2003
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I have a 2000 dakota 4x4 with 98,000 miles, I have been through two sets of factory rotors and am about to replaced the raybestos pads and rotors because they can't be turned anymore, I've just resigned myself to the fact that the braking system on these trucks suck.

Can anyone tell me just how do you get the rotors off the hub ? ? ?



FORTHECOS
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12/28/2003
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I also have a 1998 with rotor problems. The dealer told me the self adjusting rear brakes need to be adjusted manually. If you don't adjust the the front brakes must do more work and cause them to get hot and warp. Mine have made an indentation in the steering knuckle. I now need to replace the knuckle.



Isurfer
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1/11/2004
14:58:32

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FOUND THIS ON ANOTHER SITE

Last Friday I was getting the brakes serviced (new pads and rotors turned) on my wife's car at Brake Depot and I got to talking with the manager about the rotor problem on my 2003 Ram.

He said that he had seen quite a few of the "new generation" Rams and the problem (from his perspective) was not the rotors but the calipers used on these trucks. He said that DC now uses a caliper with a composite (i.e. plastic) piston in lieu of the older, metal piston. He indicated this piston "heats up" and expands as the vehicle is driven and therefore does not completely release after the brakes are applied. This causes heat build-up at the pads and eventually causes the rotor to warp. He indicated this is a common problem on the 2000 and newer Jeep Grand Cherokees also.

I don't know how much truth there is his theory, but it does sound plausible.

Today I took my Ram in to the dealership to have the rotors replaced for the second time. I now have 20,200 miles on the truck and they were originally replaced at 11,500 miles. The service manager drove the truck and confirmed that there was a problem with the rotors and was about to replace them again when he looked through the Tech Service Bulletins and found a new one issued this month regarding the rotor issue. The TSB instructs the dealers to replace the calipers with a new-replacement caliper. He said that unfortunately, the new calipers have not been shipped to the dealerships yet, so he was going to hold off on the rotor replacement until he had the new calipers.

I asked him to give me acopy of the TSB but he said he couldn't because it was "illegal" (pure BS). However, I did manage to get the number of the TSB. It is 05-008-03. It's not posted yet on either one of the websites that list TSBs, but I imagine it will be posted sometime in the near future.

Soooooooo, maybe we can all look forward to a "fix" to the ongoing rotor problem. I guess time will tell...

I CHECKED FOR THE TSB AND IT IS NOT ENTERED



Serious Post
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1/16/2004
20:50:14

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OK, I replace my rotors in early August on my '00 Dak with about 34,0000 miles. In October my Dak would shudder, brake pedal pulsate and steering wheel vibrate while braking. I drive an average of 300 miles per week, mainly highway miles and when I get in town and go from light to light it sucked big time. Anyway, I had them replaced again on Monday and while picking up my truck I mentioned to the mechanic about driving backwards and hitting the brake in order to adjust the rear brakes. The mechanic suggested work the E brake by pressing it in while holding the release lever about 20 times then get in the habit of setting my E brake each time I parked and this would adjust the rear brakes. Anyone have a constructive comment. You a$$holes can post your bull$hit on the off topic forums with the rest of the fags





WipLash
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1/23/2004
22:55:52

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Isurfer,
What you said about the calipers is definately worth looking into. I've been scratching my head on this very issue for about 6 months now on my 2002. I can drive in town making quick stops at evry intersection with no problems. Now, I live right next to the on ramp of I55. I can leave my house without ever hitting the brakes. If I get on the interstate and drive 30 miles at 85mph my rotors will warps so bad that the truck literally pulsates and quivers when I hit the brakes. What that service tech told you would explain what is happening to me. He may be right. If he is right, how do you fix the problem? Will calipers from an older Dakots with metal pistons work on a new Dakota?



WipLash
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1/23/2004
23:34:15

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stoptech.com.............idiots!

stoptech must be working for DC..or they are smoking crak!!

Shops don't purchase $10,000.00 brake lathes because rotors don't warp.

Do any of you own a dial indicator? I do. I have never paid anyone to do a brake job for me in 20 years. If you have never inspected a rotor with a dial indicator then don't challenge me on this topic. I'll bet money with any "stoptech" technician that the rotors on my truck are warped right now and I have not checked them yet with my dial indicator. Rotors do warp! The solid cast iron rotors are more prone to warpage than the 2 piece ones. The reason for this is because when the rotor heats up it expands and grows in diameter. The solid one piece design has too great of temperature differnential from the center of the hub to the outer edge of the rotor. This difference in temperature causes the metal to expand at different rates across the rotor and causes them to warm. Under severe useage, the one piece rotors have been known to crack all the way around the hub and break off due to the difference in temperatures across the rotor. The 2 piece design addresses this problem and is the reason they put 2 piece rotors on in the first place.

The main reason the new Dodges are warping brake rotors so bad is the increased tire size. Ask anyone that has ever owned a 4wd and put oversized tires and wheels on what it does to your brakes. IT COOKS THEM! Dodge keeps increasing the Wheel Weight, Wheel Diameter, and Tire/Wheel width on the Dakota. Have they increased the brake rotor size proportionally to match the wheel and tire size? NO! Put the small 215/75/15's back on with the light weight 5.5" wide wheels and half your brake rotor problems will go away.



kgun
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6/18/2004
02:30:36

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Come on guys. Rotors warp from heat. So why so much heat on the front rotors. Cause there doing all the work. Maybe you should look at the back drums and adjust them. Shouldn't it be about 60 / 40 on percent from back to front.
My rotors were warped. Replaced with slotted and drilled rotors which will disipate heat much better but also cranked down on the back. They were way out.



Scott
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6/23/2004
13:57:21

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Had just replaced my rotors on my 2000 qd cab. The parts guy said they warp if you drive thru alot of water when brakes are hot. ??? I think there is alot more to it than that. Would agree with wiplash also. Makes a guy wonder.



SXT
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8/05/2004
03:36:43

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I second that, I had a warped set by 23k miles. I replaced them with cross drilled ones and havent had any warping noises in 30k since. Its all in the cooling.



uunderhill
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7/15/2014
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I have a 2000 Dodge Dakota 4.7 litre 2WD
and it became an annual event to get the front rotor and pads replaced.
Every Summer it was on my "To Do List" - got to the point where I thought maybe I could get a bulk discount on rotors.
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Then I phoned Brakewarehouse in Binghamton, NY.
As it turned out the guy I spoke to owned a Dakota.
He said you Don't want to put ceramic pads on this truck.
What you want are Carbon steel / Kevlar pads with Vented and slotted rotors.
That was 3 years ago and everything has fine since. Problem solved.
Hope this helps everyone.
BTW: I have no affiliation with Brakewarehouse.
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Also - tires - the original Goodyear Wranger tires on my 2000 Dodge Dakota were outright scarey. I have Michelin 235 75R15 LTX M/S2's on all 4 corners and they are pretty good for 3 season driving. IMO Michelin M/S2's are a step up from the original M/S's.
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Walt
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8/31/2016
22:22:00

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I have a 2000 Dakota 4.7 SLT with super chips performance program. First 5 years the dealer replaced brakes and rotors 10 times. They finally went with NAPA premium pads and rotors. 65000 miles on them and no problem, no brake dust. I feel bad because I work at Advance Auto. I might add I have 170000 miles on my Dakota and it still looks and runs factory perfect.



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