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Dan
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12/02/2001
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I bought a 2001 ext cab 4,7 4x4 I love the truck but very disappointed with it, been in the dealer several times already i only have 7000 miles on it

7 miles cab mount missing from factory
500 miles converter seal leaking (Truck was raped)
2500 waterpump bearing failed
3400 transfer case module replaced(unable to use 4wd)
6000 mile noticed front end making a knocking sound going over some bumps, this one sucks(UPPER BALL JOINTS N/G WASTED SHOT BULLSHT.....

I keep wondering what is next, ILL enjoy this one for the rest of waranty, and maybe have better luck next time.... next truck will be a dodge....





Chris W
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12/07/2001
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Next truck will be a Dodge?? You must be a glutton for punishment. Sorry to hear about youre problems. :-{ The problems with the new Dodge trucks get worse and worse. too bad, cause its the best looking truck out there.



y22man
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12/07/2001
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Well,

I love my dakota. And best part it fits what I do to a T. But I have been dissatified with the reliability of the running gear(tranny,T-case). I will not be selling it any time soon. But my next truck WILL be something other than Chrysler. Most like dare I say it Chevy.

Jay



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6/24/2002
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Man sorry about your luck with the truck..I have a 97 dakota club-cab,V-6 and it know has 131,000 miles on..I love my truck..It runs like a brand new...I use ASMOIL products from the front bumper to the back bumper..I wouldn't be afraid to drive it across country several times over..



Norris
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9/22/2002
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Cruising thru and had to say:'98 Dak,V6 2wd,auto,
183,000 miles and still strong. Replaced tranny @ 152,000,mostly highway miles. When not on the road drove my '51 B3B Dodge pickup around town. Depends on how you drive and maintain your truck. Upstate New York.



Lemmers
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9/23/2002
14:24:15

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Don't feel bad, I replaced my upper ball joints
@ 2000 miles on my '02 Quad Cab. I found
the problem when I was changing the front
coils in order to lower it (a bunch of rusty water
ran out of them when I separated the spindle
from the upper A-arm and they both would
allow the spindle to move in and out about
1/16").

Your "friendly dodge dealer" COUGH, COUGH,
will only replace the upper or lower arm with
the same P.O.S. non-greesable junk. I
replaced mine with MOOG from CarQuest.

Oh, I almost forgot, the lower left brake caliper
bolt was cross theaded from the factory. The
treads from the spindle pulled right out when I
removed the pin! I had to raise holy hell at the
dealer to get the spindle replaced.

Later,
Lemmers



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9/24/2002
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That lower left brake bolt being stripped is scarey. Mine was to, found it when I replaced the upper ball joints on my 98Dakota with 40k on it. Maybe we should incurage everyone to check their's
for safty's sake.



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9/30/2002
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Lemmers,
I have an 01 4.7 ext. cab and have all kinds of rattling and clunking under the front end. I have 27,000 miles and it has been getting worse. Sometimes when I apply the brakes I hear a clunk. I have pulsating in the rotors and brake pads too. Were you able to replace the ball joints only with the Moog's that are for the 99 Dakota's? Or did you have to replace the control arms too? I love my Dakota, power and styling, but this stuff kinda sucks. I feel like I shouldn't have to be spending money already and I really would rather not deal with the Dodge Dealership. Also too my front shocks seem kinda bouncy and the rear end doesn't seem stiff enough when I push down on the bed.

Jon P.



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11/01/2002
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Jon,

I did the upper ball joints only. Check out:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/dea/33
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Lemmers



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11/01/2002
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Jon,

I did the upper ball joints only. Check out:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/dea/33
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Later,
Lemmers



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11/01/2002
09:20:19

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Sorry, I just realized I posted a link to the
thread that Jon P started, (Moogs) plus I think
the link is bad...

Anyway, (for anyone interested) I replaced the
upper ball joints on my 02 Quad 2wd with
Moogs for a '98. I had to drill out the mounting
holes in the new Moogs from 5/16" to 7/16"
because that's the size the holes were in the
upper a-arms. I used some new 7/16" fine
thread grade 8 hardware. They work great.

Later,
Lemmers




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11/01/2002
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Lemmers,
after I read your post under the MOOG's thread, I relaced the right upper ball joint on my 01' with a MOOG part for the 99's.
Drilled out the holes in the MOOG to 7/16. It works perfect. I looked at the OEM ball joint after it was removed, it was bone dry, and I was able to move it around easily, it had no resistance whatsoever. It was completely shot.
My truck doesn't make that annoying clunk and rattling anymore. Thanks again Lemmers.

Jon P.





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11/03/2002
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my dakota has been one huge nightmare but i still love the truck. i have a 99 2wd sport. so far @80000 miles i have replaced a throttle body becuse of 2 missing bearing which grooved the butterfly shaft which the dealership blamed me for doing when they where the only ones to touch it. 3 months b4 this happened hemet chrysler center did a throttle body service and a week later i notice the throttle sticking a little when i called they told me it was normal after 3 months it got a lot worse and when i took it in they greased up the throttle cable and charged me 4 a t.p.s. and tell me its fixed right when i drive off the lot it does it again so i take it back. they tell me that basicaly im imagining the problem. so i drive it home and the problem gets worse the next day a im driving back 2 the dealer the throttle sticks wide open and the truck takes off and i almost rear end a car and get t boned when i pull over i call my equis warrenty roadside assistance{which i bought with the truck for 1000$} to get towed@11 am the tow truck doesnt arive till 5 pm i barrly made it to the dealership in time to drop it off then they take 2 weeks to fix it and charge me for a 2nd t.p.s.on top of $400 for the throttle body.next went the radiator and thermostat ,battery then i get my windshield replaced and i had 3 of the new ones crack because the passengerside sitts 1/4" farther back than the drivers side so basicaly my firewall is crooked but beside all the problems it looks great!



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11/03/2002
15:30:09

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Sorry to Here Dan

I've had thesame problems but w/ the Paint.

6 months after I had it the paint cracked by the antenna. After about 6 letters. 4 or 5 dozzen phone calls, DC Rep and 3 months of Waiting...Finally got it fixed....


Hope you have better luck

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sean
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11/10/2002
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replaced rotors @15,000 mi. transfer control module stuck in 4wd @50,000mi. knocking from under front end since it was new...terrible pre-ignition rattle from day one...seat latches broken since purchase...2001 dakota 4wd ext. cab.dodge will never get my business again.all they can do is blame the owner. any company not willing to share in the responsibility is not worth doing business with.



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11/27/2002
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This is my 3 rd dodge, and last one. My first 2 were full size Ram's 4 transmissions, 2 rear ends. 45,000 and 60,000 mi on them when I got rid of them.
Went to a 2001 dakota, ordered it new. It has 25,000 mi. Ball Joints, upper and lowers both sides, Brake rotors and pads x2. Clock spring in column.
My next truck WILL NOT be a Chrysler product.
I am going to GMC



ems66
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11/27/2002
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This is my 3 rd dodge, and last one. My first 2 were full size Ram's 4 transmissions, 2 rear ends. 45,000 and 60,000 mi on them when I got rid of them.
Went to a 2001 dakota, ordered it new. It has 25,000 mi. Ball Joints, upper and lowers both sides, Brake rotors and pads x2. Clock spring in column.
My next truck WILL NOT be a Chrysler product. Nothing but problems with 2 dealers. Dont seem to want to fix anything. The last ball joint problem, was the right upper. Damn near separated (Rusted) This is unexceptable. My kids ride in that truck! I guess $80,000 dont buy much.
I am going to GMC



Bryan
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12/18/2002
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I bought my 2000 R/T used had 25,000 on it had it a week and took it back for waranty work on what I thought was all the transmissions fault. It would stutter shift from 1st to 2nd, and then there was the surging wich led me to believe there was a lean condition happening. Then cruising down the freeway on cruise control at speeds anywere between 65&75 MPH it would surge, with usually about a 500rpm increse in engine speed. I told the dealership all this and that I thought maybe the cruise control bit might be the converterlockup locking and unlocking. One of the service writers got down right nasty with me about the lean condition surge at part throttle. He said that it was no way that the transmission could be causing that! They don't even let you finish telling them what it's doing or describing it before they start tearing you're problems apart and making them all you're imagination! I got another service writer to work with me he was only mildly condesending! Then when I picked it up they told me they'd flashed the computer and reprogramed the shift points and adjusted the bands in the tranny. And that was the only things they could find wrong. Oh yeah when you put the gear selector in the drive position you have to wiggle it to make sure it falls into the detent! Otherwise you're driving along and it slips into another position! They said they adjusted that too! Not! Still does and started doing everthing else to again soon after! I've always worked on my own vehicles and firmly distrust dealerships with them! My motto is if I fix it and get it wrong the only person I can blaim is myself! Well Dodge too from time to time! But it is rediculous to buy a vehicle for almos 20K and have waranty on it that you can never get them to satisfy the conditions of! I went to the Department of Transportations web site and it blows my mind the number of other people that have the same problems or worse! Go check it out and complain! Enough people lodge the same complaints and Dodge will be forced to get a handle on some of these situations. Its www.nhtsa.dot.gov/



KotaGirl
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1/18/2003
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Hey.. i just read all this, and it makes me sick to my stomach :o( I love my little dodge dakota. Yeah its not perfect, but it still does great for me. No dealership will treat any customer the way they want to be treated exactly. I am going to have to go get my steering col. checked out, clock spring, and check my upper ball joints. Shes a 2001 Sport 4.7 ext. cab with 28,000 miles. i think i went into the wrong post, cause now im very sad :o(

The thing about it that makes me ill... is that there isn't going to be a perfect truck, car, vehicle! you will always have problems of some sort, yeah there will be that one out of i dont know how many that wont give any problems, but the chances of that happening is pretty slim to none. Nothing stays in good shape without a little TLC, including dodge, chevy, ford, gmc and more!! I love my dodge dakota and i wouldnt trade it in for the world....



Bryan
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1/21/2003
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Kota Girl don't get me wrong I like my Dakota, I just don't like all the little constant string of problems that pop up. I've owned several Fords and never had this many problems all on the same vehicle. Vehicles nowadays are very complicated machines the more options you add to it the more likely you are to have a problem with one of them. But Dodge has so many that it is beyond the norm. And the "everyone has problems excuse doesn't cut it". When you go to the dealerships and tell them of these problems you can see the looks on there faces , they've seen this over and over again. The service writer
s have seen the same problems but they don't like to admit it . Get one of the mechanics alone off on the side and he'll tell you a different story. Go to the DOT's web site and look up you're vehicle or any dodge dakota between the years of 96 & 02. Especially on the transmissions and you'll see the number of people who all have the same things wrong with there transmissions. Yet no recall. It would be one thing if all the owners were negligent in there use of the tranny's or it's maintenance but mine started doing this as soon as I bought it used at 25k. Not to mention the throttle position sensor that is bad the idler pulley that squeals, the gasoline smell that comes into the cab all of a sudden when you're driving down the road, the rear end howling now at 33K, the popping noise when you make a right hand turn off of the freeway, and the rearend is limited slip not a locker! I work on my own vehicles once the get out of warranty so I'm willing to fix and improve components behind most of these complaints I have. But what about the average person just wanting to be able to drive there truck day in and day out? The real problem is that they've gotten the public into the mode now where there so used to vehicles always having problems as you say that that's acceptable! This is why those Japenese automakers made such a dent in american automakers sales. Think of it this way if it was a airplane would you put up with these problems and just hope you don't have to try and pull over on a cloud when it goes out on you? Luckily you can just pull you're truck over on the side of the road and call for help. But what if you're out in the hills? Let alone pulling over on the freeway with cars flying past at 70+ how many people get killed that way every year? Kota Girl you've only got 28k on your's and you're already having to take it in for upper ball joints! Thats just wrong!



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I just bought my 99' Dakota Sport Dec. 23 2002 and so far so good. I went to Nemer Dodge and then found a recall on the right rear brake line and yesterday (Jan 25th 2003) I blew a fuse for the heater motor and replced that but man I love this Dakota so much! The only mod I've put on it is a Chrome Tip for the tailpipe. In the sping hopefully a Brush Guard, with 4 Lights hooked on, 2 ton hitch, K&N Cold Air Intake, and the K&N Air Filter to go alond with it. Other than that this Dakota is the bomb! She's only got 37071 when I got her but now she's got 39794 on her almost due for her 2nd oil change.



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1/28/2003
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39794 and SECOND OIL CHANGE?? Buddy, i think that's REALLY pushing it BIG TIME!



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1/28/2003
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I think he means Second oil change for him since he's had the truck.



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I own a 2000 Dakota Sport Quadcab 4x4 4.7, that I ordered up new at the time. This is my first Dodge purchase and possibly last. What I am not happy about is the so-called manufactures warranty. What a joke. It is ridiculous to buy a vehicle and you can't even get the dealership to honor the warranty. Sure I have had a few problems, fortunately nothing major. First the black paint on the bumpers started peeling and pitting, only 3 months after I bought it. Dealer refused to fix and repaint. They stated that they had no way of telling if it was the original factory bumpers. Give me a break! I tried other Dodge dealers locally and received the same response. I guess Daimler Chrysler provides a course to the dealerships on bullsh'ting their way out of repairs that should be covered under the warranty. Then later around 30,000 miles, I started getting a vibration from the rear at speeds greater than 45 mph. I took it into the dealer again; they wouldn’t even look at it unless I paid their labor rate for an employee to diagnose it. What a scam…isn’t labor and parts included in the warranty? Now, conveniently at 38,000 miles, (of course manufactures warranty expired, not like they would fix these problems anyway) I have several problems. My passenger side back door power window motor intermittently works. The other back doors power door lock relay sticks, causing the door to not always open or be closed. Plus to top it off, I have a problem with my gas gauge giving me a false reading. The gauges needle stays in the red until I get to a quarter tank or less. The instrument panels low gas icon stays lit and starts dinging to warn of low fuel. The overhead panel displays O miles for DTE. Well I guess I will have to resolve this one myself too. I can just imagine the dealer’s excuse on this one; how do we know you are not substituting gasoline for cheaper alternate fuels like ethanol. I have 2 Chevy’s and a Ford all purchased new and have never experienced such poor, fraudulent customer service as I have from Dodge dealerships. Anyway, if anyone else has experienced a similar problem with their gas gauge, some insight would much appreciated.



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2/05/2003
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Been there done that Frank. They look at you like you're nuts if you just want them to take a couple of minutes and see what recalls have been done on you're vehicle. And all she had to do was enter my Vin number and pull up the info on the computer. You should have heard all the lame excuses she gave me when she decided she either couldn't or wouldn't. Weather this that blah blah blah. Then she had the gaul to tell me, "Well you can get this information at any Dodge dealer." I looked around and said I thought I was in one? Of course you can't make it across the the parkinglot without a salesman trying to sell you another one they won't back up!



Texas Todd
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2/06/2003
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Holy Sh*t!!

Then she had the gaul to tell me, "Well you can get this information at any Dodge dealer."

What a freak*n airhead!

pretty funny, I thought I was in one!

And those young salesman sharks are hilarious! I guess the think the more they annoy people, they'll sell a few more cars!



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2/20/2003
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Anybody got an idea why there's still pinging in the engine when the plug gaps from the original OEM spark plugs are set as per spec.? Another thing, this was a specially ordered 5-speed; occasionally, the gear shift goes into some neutral zone where it won't go into any gear at all. Bloody annoying and the boys from Chrysler say its nothing because they can't replicate the problem when they have it in the shop.



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2/20/2003
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Clark,

The NV3500 in my 02 quad is just a piece. I'm
convinced the tolerences and quality control
for these New Venture transmissions is
complete crap. Mine makes this wierd sound
when it's cold and seems to shift different
from day to day. Although it's great when it
warms up. (can't wait 'till summer)

I've driven 65 year old 2.5 ton ex-military
International trucks with syncro-less
transmissions that up-shift better than my
Quad.

I'm as picky as it gets, I've just started thinking
and telling people "It's a Dodge, it makes all
kinds of wierd moans, clunks, etc." The sad
part is, there's nothing better out there....

Later,
Lemmers



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2/23/2003
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Thanks Lemmers for your your response.

Peter Clark



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2/25/2003
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Yes, Dodge is really making a wreck of thier reputation, although ever since i was a little kid, i always heard they suck. Lord knows why i bought one. WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT MAKING A BALL JOINT THAT WORKS??!!! I've had a few other cars that had sealed for life ball joints and they never made a noise and never went bad. Then there's the tranmission woes. And for all you people that say to us "its how you take care of your truck", kiss my a--!! These peices of garbage usually have these problems almost the day you drive it off the lot. I baby my truck and drive it like an old man and it still sucks. I tell my friends of the various BS that occurs with my truck and they look at me like i'm crazy and with pity(they all own chevys). Then there's the so called warranty. What good is a warranty that is almost never honered??? They'll never admit something is wrong in the fisrt place!! "Your truck making sounds like the wheel is going to fall off is normal"....lol... I laughed real hard the day Chrysler started offering that 7 year 70,000 mile powetrain BS. They'll try dicking you evertime you bring it in with a problem. Not all of us have the time and/or money to go through all that arbitration crap and/or get a lawyer, which is what you need to get them to fix alot of the problems. Then when you fianlly get fed up and want to just get rid of it for something other than a dodge, you discover its awfull trade in value. Dodges don't hold their value worth a dam. (deep breath) Ok, heres my list of problems:

1999 Ext Cab 4x2 3.9 V-6 Auto 64,000 miles:

Obnoxious spark knock(was fixed after over a year of haggling but it still does it a bit. Who knows what kind of damage was done while it was pinging)

Crap Ball joints(a few were replaced pretty early on, now they're bad again)

Cab mounts(i sometimes thougt the cab and i were going to slide right off the frame)

Drivers seat-replaced twice due to foam puking out of the underside

unstable idle, tendency to stall when changes in engine load occur ie; putting it into or out of park, etc( never fixed, another "normal" condition)

Rear sliding window removed and resealed due to water leak

Transmission shot at 38000 miles....gee, 2000 miles after the warranty was up, imagine that. 1100 bucks to fix.

Tape deck busted at like 8000 miles

Bad leak detection pump 8000 miles

antifreeze leak at thermostat housing 15,000 miles

drivers seat belt mechanism replaced around 15,000 due to sticking.

Di--head service reps and rude service managers
(i almost went over the counter at one guy)

Various other loud rattles and sqeaks they could not or would not say was there. Many of the problems above were/are on-going things that were never really resolved. Now i'm just waiting to get a better job so i can afford the loss in trade in value and trade the truck in for a chevy.

I think the only thing that is good on these trucks is that the engines themselves last forver,although they never run right. But then there is the rest of the truck. I think its great there are people on here that have almost no problems and/or are satisfied with thier truck but i honestly think you're in the minority.











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2/27/2003
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My daughter took her 2000 Dakota Sport 3.9 into another dealership in the area and complained about the pinging. She got it back that evening and the service manager said there wasn't any problem, but, she noticed it wasn't pinging any longer. I think they retarded the timing a bit.

Anyhoo, the good news is I've got an original 1968 Dodge Charger R/T which need some TLC and she's been a real good runner since new. There's never been any Jap scrap, Corvette, Camaro or Mustang that's been able to catch me at the lights! Not that I've got anything aginst Corvettes; I rebuilt the engine in my friends 1970 454 CI but honestly it doesn't hold a candle to the R/T. NOW if they put the new HEMI in the Dakota R/T, for sure I'll buy one!!

Pete



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