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s.e.h.
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12/09/2003
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ok , i'm going to up grade at the begin of the year on 12 inch subs.i'm thinking some kickers but which ones should i go with .r the square sub kicker makes yean good.also how good r the new jl w 7's. i'm going to be running about 1000 rms .so which sub would be better .or i'll take some ppls thoughts on a good sub.

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seh



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12/09/2003
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no one can tell me what good and what's not.no one.



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12/09/2003
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whenever i buy audio equipment i buy eclipse. there a great brand with great subs, amps, and head units. Anything u want they have the very best of. The band thing about audio equipment is usually the more expensive u go the better it gets.



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12/10/2003
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I've been installing for over 10 years. And I'm not a great Kicker fan but if you are actually running 1000 watts RMS? (And I would like to know what amp you are using) Then go with Kicker L7 series. They will take the watts and pound your head in. But they require more air space then the JL audio W7's. JL's are awesome too but Kickers L7 series are more effecient in putting out the SPL.



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12/10/2003
10:27:33

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the amp is a soundstream ref. class a 10.0 . so it's rated around 1000 watts rms at a 1 ohm load mono. but it's probably not that high.i don't no i just got the amp and i was going off what i can find on the net and what other ppl have said.i still need to buy a crossover for the amp.it has a supersonic filter but no crossover.but i guess if u what a good strong amp u have to sacrifice something on the amp.the amp can go down to a 1/4 ohm load in stero and a 1/2 ohm load in mono.the amp is awsome besides no crossover.



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12/10/2003
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an L7 cant hold 1000 watts continuous, ive got an L7 12 being pushed by a chrome fosgate power 500a2 and thats almost too much......i wouldnt run 1000 watts to one speaker....and if you are, it prolly wont fit in your truck....get a couple jl audio w3's and youll be plenty happy.



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12/10/2003
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If you have and ext cab I would get rid of the back seats and go with a Kicker Solo x if you want some thing that really pounds. They are rated at 10,000 watts/5000 watts rms. But the only thing with those is the cost. I have one Kicker S15L7 hooked up to a 1000 watt Legacy amp (awesome amp) and has an awesome sound. I think that in about a year or so I am either going to get rid of by back seats and go with 2 S15L7 or a Solo X (2 if they would fit).



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12/11/2003
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s.e.h your going with more than 1 sub right? If so, hooked up in stereo your L7's will pound and not blow, JL's will do the same or you can get Rockford Fosgates, I've always gone with them and I know the warranty on them is great if you run them at the rated wattage and you blow them send them in with the paperwork and they will replace it. I think JL audio will do the same. Its all up to you look for the best price and how much air space is taken up. Everyone has their favorites but your question to answer its as I stated price and air space should be consideration since both products are very good.



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12/11/2003
23:17:36

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if i had the money and space id go with the solo x in a heartbeat!!



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12/19/2003
01:02:14

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JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL, JL,

JL audio is the best sub anyone can buy. It is going to last the longest if you don't put too many watts to it, it's going to have the best bump for your money, and the quality far exceeds how much you are paying. I own only a 12' W3, and I only have 180 watts to it, and it hits so hard yet so clear while still having top quality, thats its not even funny. Mark my words, buy a JL Audio.

Paul
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12/19/2003
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I personally have never been a fan of jl. I just think there is this big cloud of hype around them and when it comes down to it they arnt all there craked up to be. I'm not calling them crap, I just would not buy them.



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12/19/2003
21:44:29

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Adire Audio Brahma
Resonant Engineering XXX
Elemental Designs A series
JL Audio W7
Orion H2
MTX 9500 Series

On and on...



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1/18/2004
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Dig these blues. IF you want stupid bass that makes you giddy the first thing you need to do is pull seats, carpets and panels and sound proof that thing. The best and cheapest thing out there is Peel and Seal. It is 70 mil. roof repair product, It IS the exact same thing as Dynamat and all the other hyped up stuff out there. If you dont do this you will be pi**ed off when you bump your system and hear the rattles and hum... Now to the Sub question, the first question to yourself is space, do you want to retain seating in the back or not? IF you dont then go with any sub you think is good, JUST AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE PROPER ENCLOSURE.

The best all around sub right now is the Alpine Type-R. Dont believe me, go to any shop and listen to them in a sealed enclosure. and the plus is enclosure size,,, super small and you can dump loads of power into them...



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1/18/2004
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yes i'm looking to get the L5 AND A BOX THAT IS MADE FOR THEM.SEALED AT 1.4 FOOT PER SIDE.




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1/19/2004
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Hey S.E.H.

if you really want good subs you can go with the kicker solo-baric's they thump hard, and especially with the size of your amp. Also a good brand you might have to look but try to find some Memphis 12's they are really unknown to the world but i had mine for a long time and i sold it to my friend and it is still going strong, and i only had a 500 watt amp on it. they are good :D

matt



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