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Ben
Dodge Dakota
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10/27/2003
19:42:34
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 Subject: Loaded and AMPED thunderform!
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Hey guys,
Ben again. Well not to toot my own horn or anything (toot toot), but I wrote what I thought to be a very good review of the loaded and amped thunderform. But to my dismay NO ONE READ IT (partualy because I placed it as a reply to a simple question lol). So inorder to help me feel like I did not waste 15 min of my life typing a review that no one read I am posting it again,
JUST FOR YOU GUYS :P
So without adue here is it coppied straight from my reply.
THEY ARE GREAT!!! Here is my quick mini review:
Sound- these sound GREAT! The subs are VERY clean and produce crisp bass. THE LOADED SUB HAS DIFFERENT 6000's THAN THE AMPED ONE!!! and this is a good thing. Our subs run at 7 ohms. Which I am told are very efficient (sp). Overall these subs hit cleanly and hard.
Sound score - 8
Amp- The amp in these thunderforms is a small 100 watt amp. But do not let those #'s fool you. This is a good powerfull amp. It is custom matched to the subs so together they sound GREAT. You can only see the controles for the amp so the look is very clean. I definatly belive that the MTX amp is WAY underrated. I seems to put out more than double what it is rated for. Also it does not get hot in the least bit, a small but very serious consern for many stand alone amp users.
Amp score - 8
The box- The thunderform box is something else. When I got my package it was TOTALY trashed (darn UPS). I was hesitant to open the package to see what lay inside. But my fears were put to rest. This is one tough box. Something I can not say of other boxes. The thunderform is made from a mold with THICK plastic. It is tought as a rock, and about as heavy as one too. This is something I did not think about. The box with amp and subs must weight close to 70 pounds. But this is a good thing too because it give the thunderfrom a VERY sturdy feel. One other thing is that the box keeps the cupholders! YAY my family need them.
Box score - 10
The HIT - I have read here on MANY ocasions that this combo does not give a good hit. Well... People need to stop spreading what they only hear and know nothing about. The boxs hits HARD! I will not blow your mind and it will not beat a super high sound system, but it will beat joe schmoe in his ricer. I have had many people come up to me when I am listening to my clasical music wondering WTF I am listening to because my mirrors are shaking. When I roll down my windows and they hear "Symphony No. 5 in C minor" thumpin everyone says "jesus I thought you were listening to some hardcore rap beats!". It is quite ammusing. Unfortunatly I have not listened to any rap besides my friends eminem cd so I will be unable to tell you how they fair on that front. I can tell you one thing though, eminem's songs have plenty of bump and I can pound with they best of them.
Hit score - 7
Overall value - Well I got my thunderforms for 435$ shipped to my door, and I feel that they are worth every penny. I took me MUCH longer than I though to install them (4-5 hrs, but I am a novice), so be prepared to do that. The box comes with almost everything you need, and has ok instructions.
The overall score I give the loaded AND AMPED thuderfroms is a 9. Due to the fact that I would need to spend 300 + more dollers for a good amp and that this box sounds so good, I give it my highest recomindation!
Oh and here is some helping info that I wish I would have known.
things you should have:
-#50 TORX (You NEED this. If you do not have one FIND one some where any where. It is a must to remove the seatbelts.)
-20 extra feet of wire (guage 14-20 is fine) Mtx adds almost everything you need but the remote wire it only about 3 feet long so unless you pull you stereo WAY aout you are gunna need some more :P
- A 14 doller 10-20 amp noise filter from radio shack. This is not a must but it VERY important inorder to not get any altinator wine in those precious speakers.
-20 feet of audio cable. You know the kind you use for your home stereo system. If you are using the stock radio then you do not need this because you can tie into your rear speekers. But if you have any head unit worth beans you have sub preouts. If you need this MAKE sure you get a GOOD sheilded wire. You may or may not need twisted wire. it is realy up to what you want to spend and how clean you want your sound. Also run you audio wire on the RIGHT/PASSINGERS side of the truck, and you power and remote on the LEFT/DRIVERSIDE. this will reduce noise and save you TONS of time trouble shooting altinator wine if you have it.
finaly be carefull and take your time. We all spend good money for our toys to mess it up because we wanted it done RIGHT NOW. Patience is a vurtue, and in this case patience is also audio bliss. The more time you take and the cleaner job you do the more it will pay off in the end.
These are the only tips I can offer you. I wish I had them when I bought my subs :P Whether you buy amped or not I wish you the best in your hunt for a more pleasing listening experiance and I hope that my info could give a few of you some help on future thunderform installs.
Thank you for you time, I hope I helped.
Alwasy thankfull,
Ben
P.S.
I got my thunderforms from Elitecustoms.com. I would advise ANY one from buying ANY product from them to think twice about it. I find that they are a terible company and that they do not care about the customer. If I could do it over again, I would place my orfer from etronics.com or crutchfield.com to very good online audio dealers.
Anyway Have a great evening guys!
THANKS FOR LOOKING!!!
Always thankfull,
Ben
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Ominous
Dodge Dakota
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10/29/2003
16:49:20
|  RE: Loaded and AMPED thunderform!
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Ben glad to hear that you finally got your system in. I got mine installed this weekend and I'm thrilled. You're right on with your advice about running the power cable on the oposite side if the speaker wire and the Torx was a pain to find. Also, people should know that you're taking off the entire rear seat panel, not just one of the cushions. If i'd known this it would have saved me time repairing the busted clips. The other major snag I ran into was a severe lack of wire. I had to make three trips to Radio Hut and ended up buying about 150' of the stuff to do the speakers, amps, crossovers and subs.
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Ben
Dodge Dakota
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10/31/2003
20:05:44
|  RE: Loaded and AMPED thunderform!
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Hey Ominous (matt?),
Thanks for the reply. Due to the fact that I had the loaded and amped thunderfrom I only needed to supply my remote wire and my standard A/V cables. But you are corect in that the seat in the back needed to be removed.
Note to EVERYONE!!! your ENTIRE (yes ALL) back portion of your truck need to be removed so be prepared for a long night.
Also one quick question. When I took of my seat belts I had to take the plastic covers off. In the process of doing so I broke a few. They still go back on and sit there and have not fallen off enven though all 4 have been used thoughly, but I am stil concerned. Is there any cheep replacement part that I can get from the dealers? Or should I just leave it.
Also after about 3 weeks now I have a small rattle behind my rear seats. comming from the top portion of the seat. I assume that it is from the plastic pins getting bent when I redid the back. Can I just wrap them in tape or something or is there a better option? Dynamat is NOT an option! My (our) trucks are VERY well built and I do not think i need to waist my money and time on dynamat for such a small rattle. So does anyone have any easy things I can do?
Thanks in advanced,
Always thankfull,
Ben
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