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doubled
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12/03/2002
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does anybody have one of these if so how do you like it and how does it sound? Have you had any problems with it? thinking of buying one. Thanks for the input in advance.
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97grndak
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12/03/2002
22:43:38
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ive got one and it is tight!! sounds great has many great options..although i did blow my factory speakers shortly after i bought it...i dunno if it was me listening to it too loud or the cd player itself....:) oh well...
hope this helps
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Phil Hart
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12/03/2002
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If you are in an area where there are a lot of breakins it is not a good one to have. Im pretty sure it isnt detachable is it? I live in topeka kansas and anyone who doesnt detach their face gets there player jacked. That hide crap it does doesnt work. They know there is a kameleon behind it.
If you live in a small town then I think they look real tight and they put out some good sound too.
Phil
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97grndak
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12/03/2002
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yeah i live in a small town but for some one to steal it all they have to do is rip the dash off and unscrew 2 bolts and its gone...so i agree w/ phil here..if u live somewhere where it might get stolen i wouldnt chance it
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joe_himself
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12/04/2002
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Whats is matter if it gets stolen anyways.. HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO ppl thats what insurance is for..
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Phil Hart
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12/04/2002
22:00:33
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Does insurance cover that though??? I don't have any idea. Regardless, when someone jacks your player that don't take time to unscrew your dash and neatly unhook your deck. Lil punks usually break out the window then treat your dash the same way. I have seen an entire dash broke off. So not only do you have to get a new player you have to have your dash replaced. And why go through all the trouble and hte cost of a deductable when all you have to do is get a player with a detachable face. Pretty smart investment for someone in my area.
Food for thought
Phil Hart
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Ben
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12/04/2002
22:25:32
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This player does blow your factory speakers often, otherwise its a nice deck, i would go with alpine for the money.
peace
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joe_himself
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12/05/2002
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yes insurance covers it as long as you have your copy of the recept.. why wouldnt they thats what you pay insurance for is it not??
What kind of wattage is this thing putting out if its blowing speakers
joe_himself
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KovzR6
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12/05/2002
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i have a kenwood excelon x815 and its got the motorized face that flips all the way around so its solid black. you can also remove the face whenever you want. i love it, i think its great
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doubled
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12/05/2002
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Thanks for the help I live in Milwaukee wisconsin. I don't know about where you guys live but here they steal anything even if the faceplate is detached they'll steal it. My car got broken into three weeks ago for 1.25 in change and three pieces of gum. they didn't even bother opening my glove compartment, if they did they would have found a motherload of burned cd's. Thanks for the opinions again.
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Phil Hart
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12/05/2002
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Wow 1.25 and a piece of gum, that is low. You would really want to consider a garage in that area.
And about the insurance. I thought it covered things like fender benders, hit and runs, and moving related accidents. I didn't think theft was in there too. I had better hold on to all my receipts then. Save me a lot of money.
Phil Hart
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joe_himself
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12/06/2002
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yea insurance sure does cover it.. but if you only have enough to get you on the road then dont count on it.. i have my system insured for 4 grand..
joe_himself
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doubled
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12/08/2002
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Well I decided to buy it and I installed it last night. It sounds tentimes better then before. know I just need to get an alarm. And maube a thunderform.
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J.D. Leddon
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12/08/2002
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Why waste the money on a El Kamilion or a remvoeable face. Just buy an Eclipise head unit & if someone does steal there F*** anyway. Because once the head unit loses power unless you have the key CD to unlock it it's unless. And if it's stolen within the frist year Eclipse will replace it free of charge.
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Joe_Himself
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12/08/2002
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my kenwood has a code in it as well.. so i dont care.. let someone steal it they arent gonna beable to operate it unless they have the numbers to get in it..lol
by the way.. i dont like eclipse stuff.. over rated..
joe_himself..
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Michael
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12/08/2002
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Just make sure your comprehensive deductible is really low though. If it is high then you wouldn't be able to claim it.
Z-Tube, R/T Rims, SSB Rear Disc Conversion, Alpine Head-Unit, Infinity Kappa Speakers, SilverStar Headlights, HO Cams & Intake installed.
Got H.O. ?
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J.D. Leddon
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12/08/2002
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No Eclipse isn't over rated. You pay for what you get. I sure don't see Kenwood(or any other car audio comoany) making a ofter like Eclipse does. Which is a 3 year warrenty or if their head units are stolen within the frist year they'll replace it free of charge. Also unless you've owned an Eclipse product. How can you say their over rated. You must of not been around car audio to long,cause if you had then you would know that alot more Eclipse gets used more then Kenwwod ever thought abot in competion sound offs!! Ask anywood that has Eclipse or has owned it & I'll think you'll find that most people like their Eclipse products.
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Joe_Himself
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12/09/2002
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ive owned eclipse thank you very much.. and i didnt like thier deck.. so i switched to kenwood.. this is the only deck i havent been able to skip with my stereo.. except on one song.. and the eclipse i had skipped all the time.. and i do know ppl who run eclipse eevrything.. and i dont like thier systems. but thats me.. everyone has thier own opinion and stuff.. so if you like it great.. i dont so i will stick with what i like
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Sniper
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12/09/2002
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Eclipse decks skop alot because they use a narrow band laser instead a wide band like most....in theory, it gives them better SQ, but makes them muhc more vulnerable to skipping and not reading scratched cd's......HU's are the only Eclipse product i'd run though, the rest don't quite stack up......
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millhouse
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12/10/2002
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If your stuck on JVC go w/ the KD-Sh99 Much better unit. MUCH better sounding. And as for Eclipse Not every Crack head knows or gives a $hit about if its going to work or not. Kenwood Excleon is a Awsome set of HUs I have an Alpine 7998 Phantom face and it is the best damn HU ive ever had. Plus when you get jacked its prob one of your punk friends any way that knows you have a kenwood,JVC, or alpine hide away face so they will jack it any way. you take that risk when you dump $850 in to a HU. www.sounddomain.com/id/axmiller
Miller
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J.D. Leddon
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12/11/2002
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Well Millhouse you got bent over BAD when you paid $850.00 for your Alpine 7998. A friend just bought one & he only paid $600.00 for his. So my best advice to you is do your homework before you buy next time!!
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millhouse
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12/12/2002
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$600 not at a Alpine Dealer w/ a Alpine Warr. to go w/ it I paid $750 but MSRP is $800 to $850
Miller
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millhouse
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12/12/2002
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YES INSURANCE COVERS THAT but For any thing more than that You need to get special Equipment covarage. YOu just list an amount (list wheels tires every thing) this is a new thing that ins. COs are doing. ( I work for one.) other wise you will just get STOCK stuff back
Miller
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