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dick
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4/25/2001
18:07:30

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Does anyone know where I can get a diesel conversion for a dakota. I've heard that the Cummins B4 is practically a drop in for a 3.9 Dakota with a stick.



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4/25/2001
19:59:21

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SWEEEET. Why not the Cummins 24V direct injection instead. What could be better than 500 ft lbs of torque?

BTW, I have driven a diesel turbine vehicle with 3940 ft/lbs of torque and 1500 hp!

Kevin Rants
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durtydog
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4/25/2001
21:27:36

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diesel's are awesome not only for gas mileage the torque is unbeliveable.my route truck goes out with 31,000 pounds of water each day and the power ir remarkable. granted it is a 466 detroit.hey why not if you dont want the full size ram and you want a diesel slap one in the dakota.good luck
ps your truck would be the talk of the web site

98 4x4 club cab sport 5.2

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4/25/2001
21:32:08

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Hey I have a 89 Dakota sport and have wondered at times if it would be possible to put a diesel in a Dakota too. It would be one of the best trucks around. If anyone finds information let me know.

1989 DAKOTA SPORT4X4 W/ 5 SPEED

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4/26/2001
07:18:13

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Oh man would your truck be the talk of the board. I haven't heard of anyone doin that. I'd be scared personally. The rams are a much beefier truck. The engine might fit fine, but the first time you go to pull a tree stump out (and you could do it, too) and your frame twisted, don't be surprised... :)
But you guys know dodge.. never know whats cummin up in the future.. ;)

GJoyce
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Wayne
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4/26/2001
09:23:56

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Kevin, does Uncle Sam know you stole a tank from them? :-)

Wayne Van Metre
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4/26/2001
09:38:45

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All that torque might break the crappy cab mounts.......lol.......



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4/26/2001
10:08:49

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There is talk at DC that since they own Detroit Diesel that they are working on a V6 Detroit diesel for the 2003 or 2004 Dakota. DC currently has a 3 years left on their 5 year contract with Cummins. Expect DC to drop Cummins(51% owned by Ford) for either the Detroit or Mercedes Diesel for the RAM in the next few years.



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4/26/2001
10:19:37

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A couple of years ago at the Detroit Auto Show (NAIAS), there was a Durango on display at the Detroit Diesel booth with a 4.0 (?) turbo-diesel under the hood...so it seems as though it would definately be possible. Whether we'd see something in production soon I guess remains to be seen. It would be sooooo sweet though. All the torque you want while still pulling an easy 20mpg!

It's too bad GM f*cked up back in the 70's (?) when the miserably failed in trying to convert a gas engine over to a diesel. That gave diesels a bad rep here in North America for quite a long time!

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4/26/2001
13:24:17

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I had a diesel isuzu for about 7 years and put on about160 K miles till it rusted out. The isuzu was a 2.2 litre and got about 40 mpg. I expect the dakota would get about 30 mpg m/l.
Last summer I phoned cummins and discussed this with their customer service. They recommended the B4. According to their customer service guy, someone in texas was installing the B4s. Supposedly, the Ram bell housing bolts right up and the V6 exhaust lines up. I'll be in texas beginning of July and could pick it up and drive back if the guy was still building them.
From my experience with the little diesel it appears that they overheat if you run them too fast - I'd probably want to install something like a 255 rear axle.



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4/26/2001
13:29:07

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SOOOO we can expect our Dalotas to rust out at about 160K if we put a diesel in them?

Wayne Van Metre
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dick
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4/26/2001
13:33:20

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No Wayne. It was the Isuzu that rusted out. At about 11 years and 220K miles.



Wayne
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4/26/2001
13:38:17

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OH! O.K. Thanks. I didn't think that diesel would make the truck rust.

Wayne Van Metre
'99 CC SLT 5.2/auto/3.90 anti spin

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5/07/2001
07:12:46

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hey you know you can buy a new dakota right now with a 2.5 I-4 turbo diesel from the dealers lot. but you would have to drive to brazil or argentina. i would need a little more power than it puts out though i'm not good with metric conversions but i think it get about 27-32 mpg and has about the same torque and the 3.9 v6.

Rod
95 5.2 5-speed clubcab 4x4 and LOVE IT!!!



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5/07/2001
10:40:32

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Dakotas have been available since the beginning with a 2.5 turbo diesel but only the South America.
http://argentina.4adodge.com/spanish/dakota/power/index.html


Walt-n-Ingrid's Dakota


Walt-n-Ingrid's Ram


Walt-n-Ingrid's Barracuda





Walt Felix
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14wntr
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5/08/2001
09:26:29

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Dont make me come over there Wayne!

Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage!
92 4x4 5.2L MPCM 3"FM

Wayne
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5/08/2001
10:17:55

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Wha ?? Wha ?? Ididn'tdonuthin'.

Wayne Van Metre
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Mark Huntington
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2/25/2003
11:48:42

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I have a 94 extcab 4x4 V6 w/ 210k miles on the clock. The engine is still running smooth and strong, and I plan to drive it as long as possible. When the time finally comes to replace the engine, a diesel replacement sounds great with rising fuel costs and the possility of converting the diesel to run on used vegetable oil. (see www.greasecar.com)
To GJoyce of Cummins: would the 5.9 24V fit into my engine bay, and how does the weight compare with a V6? I imagine suspension mod's would be needed. Also how is the availability of the B4? Do you know what vehicles have used it?
Thanks in advance,
Mark



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2/25/2003
15:31:11

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To see how to plant a 5.9 I-6 Cummins in a Dakota, do a search on the Banks Sidewinder project. They have alot of pretty pictures.



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2/25/2003
22:27:56

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you could just check it out here............
http://www.quaethemmotorsports.com/images/P0001019.jpg
http://www.quaethemmotorsports.com/images/P0001020.jpg

Great truck. Not pratical. Runs 9's in the 1/4 though but the radiator, intercooler, fans, and batteries were in the bed. So much for using it to haul anything but ass! LMAO

Doc


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2/26/2003
14:45:36

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I was talking about this one:
http://www.bankspower.com/Banks_Sidewinder.cfm

It hauls stuff.



LIL DQ
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2/26/2003
22:02:21

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Check out Truckin this month they did a big special on it!!!!!!!!!

Doc


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2/27/2003
16:21:12

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Also why not have the B4 for the Durango also.

It would be a good option on the 1/2 ton Ram pick up as well. Hey the new 150 might have a new 4.5 PW diesal soon next year or so.



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2/27/2003
16:38:00

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there are news turbo diesel daks in Brazil . Here the specs.:
2.5l 4 cyl. turbo diesel intercooler
115hp at 3900 rpm
300Nm of torque at 2000rpm (V6 has 305Nm at 3200rpm )
MPG??? you guys can make the convertion ( Im little lazy today...) 15km/litre. in the city.


Dak 1999 2.5l 4X2 jet perfoirmance stage 1

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